Join TSR now and chat about whatever you’re intoSign up now
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by The Assassin)
    I thought that as well (first time I'd heard of Bild), but on other sites people are saying Bild is really unreliable, lolz.
    They are in general like a lot of mainstream papers. Lots of sources, don't have time to sift through them all judging on reliability.

    But to compare them to The Sun is a tad harsh. I guess they're the German equivalent of Marca though. Neither overly reliable but can come through with some good reports every now and again. The Sun is just.... well.

    From what I've seen by independent or lesser known German reporters they're rather hit and miss. But that than nothing though.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    Apparently Bild are often spot on when they declare something like "a done deal" or "X has signed a contract with Y", but the rest of the time they're not much better than any other newspaper speculating on transfers.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Zürich)
    Going after his bro was wrong, but Gotze has utterly disgraced himself. Burning his shirt is petty but I dont see what's wrong with that. No Dortmund fan would want his name on their back anymore.
    Yeah I agree, burning a shirt is pretty disrespectful and unnecessary IMO but like you said, somewhat understandable under the circumstances. I was just making the point that Dortmund doesn't have super-fans who can do no wrong.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	BIpYiwmCYAAj_Cx.jpg 
Views:	113 
Size:	53.3 KB 
ID:	211253

    Offline

    0
    ReputationRep:
    Got a bet for a penalty at some point in tonight's match, Torres to score at anytime and Chelsea and Benfica to both win the first leg, stand to win £50 in total. Only thing I'm fretting about is Benfica's result ironically more than Torres scoring.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Tommyjw)
    Like what examples?
    Tried looking for the examples since I had them written in a text document but still can't find it. I will quote you if I find them since it's annoying. But yeah, the English FA case stands though. Here and here are articles showing the problems of the FA who are unwilling to use powers devolved to them, probably because it will create too much of a work load. It's only one case, and with the FA refusing the budge on exercising powers given to them just means that some football fans, as I've seen in a different thread, become misinformed as to whether or not the FA, or other national football associations, can overturn referee decisions of an incident he or she has supposedly punished.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    4
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    And 9 months for Mark Bosnich testing positive for cocaine, a recreational drug. I don't know if cocaine has properties that put it parellel to performance enhancing drugs though. A bit inconsistent is an understatement. Stade Francais' scrum half, Jerome Fillol, got banned for 14 weeks for spitting. Sometimes spitting and biting can be worse than some other forms of physical harm, depending on the context, because of the issue of disease. I'm aware that footballers spit on the pitch but they shouldn't do it. Bad as 14 year olds who think it's cool to smoke who have to spit every minute for some stupid reason. Ivanovic might catch rabies off Suarez for all I know.
    With coke from what I've heard it's really just like 30mins-1hr of pleasure, don't think it's got any performance enhancing effects just that our countries' drug policy is an absolute farce, don't think they'd get a fine from the FA if they got caught out on the lash drinking 10 pints of coors light but really public opinion on it means that the authorities are under pressure to do such actions due to the media.

    (Original post by Tweek)
    Do you see the level of hypocrisy in calling Chelsea a toxic environment as a Liverpool fan? Sure he'd benefit from being in the nurturing environment that is Anfield...

    Attachment 211209
    Although liverpool are no better than us we still are a **** environment. I think klopp would do a similar job to mourinho tbh. His record is truly outstanding there's no two ways about it, this is coming from a guy 3 weeks ago who was saying they're completely overrated.

    Still think madrid(alonso especially) was absolutely terrible but dortmund were awesome. Still think they'd be battered by bayern but I'd rather dortmund won it.
    Offline

    12
    ReputationRep:
    It's been a good 2 days of quality football on show. Don't disappoint Rafa and let Hazard do his thing :yy:
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by 419)
    It's been a good 2 days of quality football on show. Don't disappoint Rafa and let Hazard do his thing :yy:
    Haha trust us to keep the show rolling. Don't get your hopes up mate.

    We'll get one goal and play out the rest of the game. Standard.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    4
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by mhsc)
    Imo being sacked by Chelsea isn't a blot on your CV, as its pretty much an expected outcome. Our former managers have mostly all gone on to very good jobs quite quickly, and if AVB had stayed at Porto and then for instance taken a job at Real Madrid he would be fired there as well very quickly imo - he learnt a lot in his time here, when he arrived he showed 0 ability to adapt and made unbelievably naive errors of judgement and just would NOT adapt. Playing the ultra high line here is what cost him the job, it was a terrible tactic with our set of players and he absolutely refused to try anything else. If you're that naive and stubborn in any ultra high pay job you should expect to be on your way out. The managers that didn't get a fair shot here, like RDM and Avram Grant, got a massive leg up in their career. No doubt RDM will get another shot at managing in the top flight somewhere at some point, and Grant obviously went on to manage else where.

    The key is that if a manager has confidence he is better than the guys that failed here, he looks at the mistakes they made and says "I'm not that naive," then he should be happy to come in here and take a shot at it.
    Yup simple as. AVB learnt a lot here, got a good job again too.

    RDM would easily manage in the top flight personally, I think he would be a good candidate for the everton job if moyes leaves. Seemed to be able to get a sense of togetherness and give us a fighting spirit in matches(something we clearly lack atm bar 30mins when we've already been embarrassed)

    (Original post by mhsc)
    In other news, Torres says quite clearly that he wants to see out another 3 years here. Hopefully the club finds a way to get him out the door either this summer or the next, without treating him poorly as I don't think he deserves that. But in my mind its clear we need to free up his wages for a striker that can win us football matches.
    Meh his performances has been pathetic. Half the games he feels he has next to no ability so doesn't even try. That performance vs liverpool was pathetic and I see this much too often for it to just be 'the rest of the teams' fault he's probably as good as arouna kone if not worse. I was looking at benteke vs united and he seemed a lot like drogba, while he's clearly not needed just pointing that out here.

    (Original post by Isometrix)
    £50m bid for Bale, all our problems go away :holmes:
    **** bale, Arjen robben ftw I'd take him over bale personally. Cheaper and puts in similar performances, his record with us was outstanding as well. Think Robben should be the first signing we should make in the summer if we want depth in the wings, just look at bayern while benayoun and marin need replacing. Might as well replace him with quality.

    Then we can go and buy the DM we need, the striker to replace that **** prick we have up top and we'll be good for the title. It's really not rocket science. If we don't buy the DM then trust our promising youth like chalobah/mceachran/romeu because the DM's we use are absolute dross or out of position like lampard, Milan done it nicely this season putting el shawaary, de sciglio and others in the team e.g. and bayern did the same last season making a young spine of badstuber, alaba, kroos and muller and lets not get started with dortmund.
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Haha trust us to keep the show rolling. Don't get your hopes up mate.

    We'll get one goal and play out the rest of the game. Standard.


    Don't think it will be all that straight forward unfortunately :bhangra: Basel are going to be much more up for this than us. If we perform at our best we will crush them of course but I doubt we will, especially with the cushion of knowing we can beat them in the next leg if we have to. Expecting a half hearted effort.
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...iorentina.html

    lol

    EDIT: Nvm Daily Mail didn't really report it correctly
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    4
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by 419)
    It's been a good 2 days of quality football on show. Don't disappoint Rafa and let Hazard do his thing :yy:
    No doubt he'll be on the bench, benayoun will be starting, we'll have a lampard and mikel partnership to 'increase' the tempo of our football, play ramires right wing and moses left wing...

    (Original post by Isometrix)
    Haha trust us to keep the show rolling. Don't get your hopes up mate.

    We'll get one goal and play out the rest of the game. Standard.
    Are we man united?
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by jam277)
    **** bale, Arjen robben ftw I'd take him over bale personally. Cheaper and puts in similar performances, his record with us was outstanding as well. Think Robben should be the first signing we should make in the summer if we want depth in the wings, just look at bayern while benayoun and marin need replacing. Might as well replace him with quality.

    Then we can go and buy the DM we need, the striker to replace that **** prick we have up top and we'll be good for the title. It's really not rocket science. If we don't buy the DM then trust our promising youth like chalobah/mceachran/romeu because the DM's we use are absolute dross or out of position like lampard, Milan done it nicely this season putting el shawaary, de sciglio and others in the team e.g. and bayern did the same last season making a young spine of badstuber, alaba, kroos and muller and lets not get started with dortmund.
    Not sure I'd want Robben back, he's 29 now, still incredibly injury prone and still often far too selfish. I wouldn't say no to him at a bargain price but considering any purchase now will have no sell on value I'm not sure its worth it. If Pep wants to offload him immediately and the price is in our favour then sure :bhangra:

    Don't want Bale purely because he would cost an unbelievable amount, especially if going to us, and tbh I just don't want to add a diving little scrote to our squad. People already have enough reasons to hate us :teeth:

    I'd rather see us worry about a winger after we've sorted out our central midfield and brought in a striker.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by jam277)
    With coke from what I've heard it's really just like 30mins-1hr of pleasure, don't think it's got any performance enhancing effects just that our countries' drug policy is an absolute farce, don't think they'd get a fine from the FA if they got caught out on the lash drinking 10 pints of coors light but really public opinion on it means that the authorities are under pressure to do such actions due to the media.
    I've never understood the stance that people take on controlled substances despite the wealth of information available surround their usage. Those people might as well convince themselves that the world is flat and the Earth is the centre of the Universe. I know some legal substances, like caffeine, are at least debated to have performance enhancing issues in cycling but they usually draw the line. So if it does not enhance performance then the FA should not intervene. I'd take the stance of some drugs a bit more seriously from people if they weren't stuffing themselves with unhealthy food, smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol in excess. If you're going to be a health militant, at least do it consistently.
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by The Assassin)
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...iorentina.html

    lol

    EDIT: Nvm Daily Mail didn't really report it correctly
    If Fiorentina are genuinely interested in Torres then I would be unbelievably happy to offer a swap deal for Jovetic. Probably pay some cash and maybe offer them a couple of players on loan as well.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    4
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by NDGAARONDI)
    I've never understood the stance that people take on controlled substances despite the wealth of information available surround their usage. Those people might as well convince themselves that the world is flat and the Earth is the centre of the Universe. I know some legal substances, like caffeine, are at least debated to have performance enhancing issues in cycling but they usually draw the line. So if it does not enhance performance then the FA should not intervene. I'd take the stance of some drugs a bit more seriously from people if they weren't stuffing themselves with unhealthy food, smoking tobacco and drinking alcohol in excess. If you're going to be a health militant, at least do it consistently.
    Simple as, I often hear ignorant statements like they can't handle their drink so would never try other substances, seems common logic comes flying out the window once the media get a message across.

    They seem to be fine like you say pretty much destroying their insides with things just as bad. Just lack of education, being absolutely misinformed and ignorant enough to not change their stance.
    (Original post by mhsc)
    Not sure I'd want Robben back, he's 29 now, still incredibly injury prone and still often far too selfish. I wouldn't say no to him at a bargain price but considering any purchase now will have no sell on value I'm not sure its worth it. If Pep wants to offload him immediately and the price is in our favour then sure :bhangra:

    Don't want Bale purely because he would cost an unbelievable amount, especially if going to us, and tbh I just don't want to add a diving little scrote to our squad. People already have enough reasons to hate us :teeth:

    I'd rather see us worry about a winger after we've sorted out our central midfield and brought in a striker.
    Agree, that's why I think we should get robben, it's highly likely he'll leave on the cheap I feel with kroos, gotze, ribery, shaqiri and muller playing in his position and it's not like they get shifted in other positions since there's so much depth in that team.

    It's either that or he doesn't play and his value depreciates even more. Might as well see if he's available and buy him. Plus we can get the original daniel sturridge back
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    Team: Cech; Azpili, Ivan, JT (c), Cole; D Luiz, Lamps; Ram, Haz, Moses; Torres. - subs: Turn, Cahill, Bert, Mik, Oscar, Mata, Benay. #CFC


    David Luiz starts as a DM.
    Offline

    17
    ReputationRep:
    Hmm. That could also be 4-3-3.
    Offline

    1
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by mhsc)
    Hmm. That could also be 4-3-3.
    It's not according the the Chelsea website

    Chelsea are expected to line up in the following 4-2-3-1 formation:1 Petr Cech
    28 Cesar Azpilicueta
    26 John Terry (c)
    2 Branislav Ivanovic
    3 Ashley Cole
    4 David Luiz
    8 Frank Lampard
    7 Ramires
    17 Eden Hazard
    13 Victor Moses

    9 Fernando Torres
 
 
 
TSR Support Team

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 Support Team members looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

This forum is supported by:
Updated: January 11, 2014
Poll
Should MenACWY vaccination be compulsory at uni?

The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

Quick reply
Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.