The Chelsea F.C. Thread IV

Hazard should be 85/86. He's shown improvement, but in relation to what he does to the team he should not be any above 86 but they'd probably put him as 87 for the sake of it.

He was 87 before the updates wasnt he

I'd lol if we managed to end up 2nd... you never know! City look like they can't be bothered.

Yeah was saying this. Funnily enough I predicted we'll come 2nd at the start of the season, with united first, city third and arsenal 4th. Looks like my prediction could come true.

We'll probably win the europa although it'll be a close tie. I knew we'd be in the final. We clearly had too good a squad to just get knocked out by joke teams like basel, rubin, prague and bucharest.

Yeah was saying this. Funnily enough I predicted we'll come 2nd at the start of the season, with united first, city third and arsenal 4th. Looks like my prediction could come true.

We'll probably win the europa although it'll be a close tie. I knew we'd be in the final. We clearly had too good a squad to just get knocked out by joke teams like basel, rubin, prague and bucharest.

Yep, it'll be close since they are capable of beating Chelsea. Other than Matic who's been mentioned quite a lot they do have some players like Rodrigo and Gaitan that could cause trouble. Hope Lampard/Terry start because their leadership will be important.

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I was thinking about the possible transfers of Xabi/Robben. We won't give Lampard another year because he's over 30 but we'll happily fork out lots of mil and 100k per week to Alonso? No chance of them being signed. Don't even need Xabi but Robben would be good until our younger attacking mids develop more. Unless Mourinho demands the purchase of Robben if the former is to return.

Also, I know I was quite obsessed with wanting Moutinho to be bought but come to think of it it's easier + better to get Matic. Moutinho's great in all areas but being quite a small lad at 5'7, he isn't very physical whereas Matic is a whopping 6'4. Not to mention Porto aren't very good to do business with. Although I suppose Moutinho could be accompanied with a physical midfielder... maybe Luiz can be that.

Moving on from those two, what would you think of Gundogan as a CM?

Don;t think we'll come second, we've had so many chances this season to draw level on points with city but we've blown, tbh i would be delighted with 3rd seeing as its an improvement from 6th, if we win on Wednesday then pretty much guranteed CL and i hope Eden is back

Gundogan would be a dream signing. So much talent and such a bright future

Don;t think we'll come second, we've had so many chances this season to draw level on points with city but we've blown, tbh i would be delighted with 3rd seeing as its an improvement from 6th, if we win on Wednesday then pretty much guranteed CL and i hope Eden is back

If you beat Spurs then you're 6 points ahead with a goal difference of at least +16 (and the swing of goals in the game, ie a 1-0 win, will give a +18 GD over Spurs) so I'd say that's effectively top4 sealed.

3rd > 4th since the CL qualifiers are only getting more difficult too. A win would put you 4 points ahead of Arsenal too so basically little pressure again Villa and Everton - would mean you could rest your first string against Villa for the EL final?

Chelsea have had an insane number of games this season! With another 4 this season, how many will that be as a total for the season?

Tbh even with the run of games I could still see us getting top 4 personally. Had we'd beat southampton we'd be 1 point behind city but hey that's minor. You know what I was saying before, I still think he's done a decent job but nothing more. He's taken us to a final where we were the overwhelming favourites to win it(come on we won the real european trophy) but he deserves credit for that.

Just wondering, considering his time in his whole career do you think rafa is a league man? I find that he's very inconsistent in the league but he'll always give his team a good cup run or very impressive cup results(real madrid matches e.g.), also do you see him getting the real job? 3rd and europa would put him in good stead for it. Maybe a switch might happen(mou to chelsea and rafa to madrid)

Yea you're definitely in the best position for top4/3rd and I think you will get a draw/win against Chelsea. Rafa will set up the team to nullify Bale and Spurs don't seem to have much more than him at the moment.

Tbh a trophy is a trophy. Chelsea were pretty much out of the CL groups by the time RDM was sacked/Rafa bought in so it's the best of a bad situation I guess?

Mmm I'd agree that he's more of a cup/big game manager than a league manager at the moment. He did win two league titles with Valencia and obviously Liverpool came 2nd during his tenure. If he was given a job like the Man City job, I'm sure he could win the title with a squad he brought in but obviously its more about more efficient use of funds at other clubs.

I think Rafa can set up his teams up more to not lose than he can set up to win? If that makes sense? I'm sure he would've been a gold mine in the old days when it was 2 for a win and 1 for a draw.

I think Rafa would need to be a bit lucky/have a lot of money to be able to get a striker and a creative player and then his system would work? Valencia he obviously won titles, at Liverpool he never quite had the funds to achieve both a strong XI and depth for a sustained title challenge? Inter was a flop and at Chelsea he's dropped points in the league/not overachived relative to City/Arsenal/Spurs and gotten nowhere close to Utd.

Yeah, reminded me a little about sanchez and terry. Was a red though. They'll make up when they play for brazil in the world cup.

If you beat Spurs then you're 6 points ahead with a goal difference of at least +16 (and the swing of goals in the game, ie a 1-0 win, will give a +18 GD over Spurs) so I'd say that's effectively top4 sealed.

3rd > 4th since the CL qualifiers are only getting more difficult too. A win would put you 4 points ahead of Arsenal too so basically little pressure again Villa and Everton - would mean you could rest your first string against Villa for the EL final?

Chelsea have had an insane number of games this season! With another 4 this season, how many will that be as a total for the season?

its funny when people say how bad torres has gone since he left liverpool. He hasnt actually changed (if anything, hes stronger), but its because he doesnt have steven gerrard behind him giving him magic passes to run onto and score

no one at chelsea can live up to what gerrard was at his peak - no wonder the chelsea board were crying when gerrard backed out of his move to chelsea

its funny when people say how bad torres has gone since he left liverpool. He hasnt actually changed (if anything, hes stronger), but its because he doesnt have steven gerrard behind him giving him magic passes to run onto and score

no one at chelsea can live up to what gerrard was at his peak - no wonder the chelsea board were crying when gerrard backed out of his move to chelsea