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OCR A2 LAW G153 Criminal Law 1 - June 2013

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Reply 740

qr95

Original post by SAhmed95

How important is it to know case dates? I'm ok with learning case names, but case dates I seem to forget!

I never write the dates lol can't even learn the case names

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Reply 741

A sheesh

Original post by qr95

I never write the dates lol can't even learn the case names

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Ok it seems these are the likely topics.
pQ1 duress,intoxication,attempts,causation
Q2 IMO theft oap, iv manslaughter
Q3 automatism/insanity burglary and robbery

Reply 742

curtisblackham

Original post by SAhmed95

How important is it to know case dates? I'm ok with learning case names, but case dates I seem to forget!

I've never wrote the dates of cases and have 90% in each unit

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Reply 743

ArsenalWenger

Original post by SAhmed95

How important is it to know case dates? I'm ok with learning case names, but case dates I seem to forget!

Same. Cud someone clarify this please?

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Reply 744

danjones22

Original post by JLXP

Do correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't burglary traspass with an intent to commit an ulterior offence in s9(2) - theft, Gbh, criminal damage?
I.e you can still be guilty of burglary without stealing anything.

Thats true, I should of explained myself more. The point I was trying to make was you may still need to talk about theft when talking about burglary- if D steals something. If D was inflicting GBH talk about that area of law and the same with criminal damage.
Sorry for any confusion.

Reply 745

curtisblackham

Original post by ArsenalWenger

Same. Cud someone clarify this please?

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I've never wrote the dates to cases in any exam and have always had 90% + so as long as you explain them your fine

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Reply 746

danjones22

Original post by ArsenalWenger

Same. Cud someone clarify this please?

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They are not essential. You wont get marked down for missing out case dates. As long as you know the name then that is fine.
So I will get the same marks for just putting the case of White (in causation) as I would putting R v White 1910

Reply 747

hoping

if a problem question involves burglary & robbery, but not theft. do we have to write the ao1 for theft aswell?

Reply 748

DayleLP

I'm killing myself trying to find the mark scheme for January 2013. I've seen a lot of other subjects' mark schemes for January around, but not G153. The January paper seemed quite tricky and so it'd be nice to make a few clarifications.

If anyone has or can get hold of the mark scheme, if you would post it on here or send it to me directly it'd be much appreciated. :biggrin:

Reply 749

danjones22

Original post by hoping

if a problem question involves burglary & robbery, but not theft. do we have to write the ao1 for theft aswell?

Only write what needs to be applied. So if theres no theft, you don't need to talk about it. However, theft will come up with Robbery as that is just theft with force. Unlike Burglary which can be theft, GBH or Criminal Damage. Most likely if it comes up they will be some sort of theft element

Reply 750

Student-Andrew

Need to get has high marks as possible in this to make unit 4 more relaxed

Reply 751

hoping

Original post by danjones22

thanks

Reply 752

millie-rose

Original post by ArsenalWenger

Same. Cud someone clarify this please?

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I have an A in all three papers so far and have never put one date down

Reply 753

Student-Andrew

Some detailed essays of section A essays

Causation - perfect essay.docx21.3KB

Intention - perfect essay.docx20.9KB

Omission - perfect essay.docx22.4KB

Recklessness perfect essay.docx24.8KB

Strict Liability.docx29.4KB

Reply 754

feelinginfinite

Does anybody have an example scenario essay they could put up/email me on Q2 involuntary manslaughter? I'm getting frustrated how much of GNM and UAM to talk about per different scenario

Reply 755

Rebecca 94

Original post by qr95

I never write the dates lol can't even learn the case names

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haha true that

Reply 756

Student-Andrew

Original post by feelinginfinite

Does anybody have an example scenario essay they could put up/email me on Q2 involuntary manslaughter? I'm getting frustrated how much of GNM and UAM to talk about per different scenario

Hey this includes a scenario and a detailed summary of what should be included in the answer. will put up one for involuntary in a moment

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Sakina Scenario.docx18.1KB

Reply 757

feelinginfinite

Original post by Student-Andrew

Hey this includes a scenario and a detailed summary of what should be included in the answer. will put up one for involuntary in a moment

Ah I was planning on missing out voluntary manslaughter since I don't think they'd both come up together, would they? But thank you, it'd be great if you could post one! :redface:

Reply 758

A sheesh

Can someone help me.
bowen was not allowed duress when 2 guys threatened to petrol bomb his family.
he had a low iq and his characteristics were self induced? Why wasn't he allowed duress

Reply 759

ebart

Hey I'm a bit confused with the case of velumyl in theft. Part of the definition is 'with the intention of permanently depriving' (s.6 theft act) and then in my notes it says that this includes situations where D appropriates property, even if there is an intention to return it - velumyl.

Surely this is contradictory because if they have an intention to return it, there would not be an intention to permanently deprive? Would reaaally appreciate if someone could explain this to me! Thanks

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