The Muslim Brotherhood is nuts

Have you guys read this statement regarding the 'End Violence Against Women' bill the UN would like to pass by The Muslim Brotherhood (who are the ruling party in power in Egypt)? I honestly thought it was a parody article until I realized I was on the Brotherhood's official website:

http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=30731

Some of my favorite parts:
"Granting girls full sexual freedom, as well as the freedom to decide their own gender and the gender of their partners (ie, choose to have normal or homo- sexual relationships), while raising the age of marriage."

"Giving wives full rights to file legal complaints against husbands accusing them of rape or sexual harassment.."

"Replacing guardianship with partnership, and full sharing of roles within the family between men and women such as: spending, child care and home chores."

And they conclude with:

"These are destructive tools meant to undermine the family as an important institution; they would subvert the entire society, and drag it to pre-Islamic ignorance.
In conclusion, we call on women's organizations to commit to their religion and morals of their communities and the foundations of good social life and not be deceived with misleading calls to decadent modernization and paths of subversive immorality."

Can't decide whether to laugh at how insane they sound or lapse into depression because people like this actually have power over an entire country.

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Reply 1

username952244

You wonder why Mubarak used tanks against them?

Reply 2

Sammi_K?

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Reply 3

Steevee

Are you surprised? Everyone knew what the Muslim Brotherhood were before they were in power.

None of these new Islamic regimes will be any freer than the dictators they overthrew. They're all different sides of the same coin. Regressive, authoritarian regimes. Just one took their vinidcation from their power, the other takes it from a 1400 year old book.

Reply 4

Perseveranze

Freedom to decide their own gender? lmao

Most women in Egypt would probably feel insulted at that and think MB's being too kind with their response.

edit: Just realised this probably is a parody [I mean, whether the UN actually said this or not]. After reading it in full [ie. Homosexuals, prostitution respect, only girls want sexual freedom [huge generalisation against the men and a disrespect against both Egypts culture and religious values] etc. I don't think you would need MB to have to tell the UN to get lost.

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Reply 5

TheFrozenLake.

Original post by TheBlocter

http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=30731

Some of my favorite parts:
"Granting girls full sexual freedom, as well as the freedom to decide their own gender and the gender of their partners (ie, choose to have normal or homo- sexual relationships), while raising the age of marriage."

An insult to all Christian and Muslim inhabitants of Egypt who are 99.% of the inhabitants wanting to follow their faith.

Original post by TheBlocter

"Giving wives full rights to file legal complaints against husbands accusing them of rape or sexual harassment.."

Do they not have this?

Original post by TheBlocter

"Replacing guardianship with partnership, and full sharing of roles within the family between men and women such as: spending, child care and home chores."

A family can do this, You know how?

Negotiating.

Original post by TheBlocter

And they conclude with:

"These are destructive tools meant to undermine the family as an important institution; they would subvert the entire society, and drag it to pre-Islamic ignorance.
In conclusion, we call on women's organizations to commit to their religion and morals of their communities and the foundations of good social life and not be deceived with misleading calls to decadent modernization and paths of subversive immorality."

I think the above response is too kind.

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Reply 6

Willbean

You think the Muslim brotherhood is nuts? Look at what Scientology do and the **** they believe in.

They dropped a H-bomb in a volcano! Seriously?! And then force ghosts to watch films in 'three-D'!

Reply 7

Ali-Iraq94

Original post by TheBlocter

"Granting girls full sexual freedom, as well as the freedom to decide their own gender and the gender of their partners (ie, choose to have normal or homo- sexual relationships), while raising the age of marriage."

This goes against islam and christianity which make up a great majority of egypt´s population.
This is an insult to muslims and christians if you ask me!

Original post by TheBlocter

"Giving wives full rights to file legal complaints against husbands accusing them of rape or sexual harassment.."

I thought they already had this right. If not, then I support the UN in this.

Original post by TheBlocter

"Replacing guardianship with partnership, and full sharing of roles within the family between men and women such as: spending, child care and home chores."

This is a family affair, which can be solved through communication between husband and wife.
I´m personally in favour of equalsharing of roles within the family.

Original post by TheBlocter

Since it´s a muslim country with a predominantly muslim community I think they got this right, and I think the majority of egyptians would agree with them.

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Reply 8

TheBlocter

Original post by Perseveranze

Freedom to decide their own gender? lmao

You do know that gender is different from the sex you're born into? Gender is masculinity and femininity vs male or female sex. I'm not sure what amused you there but I thought I'd clarify anyway.

Original post by Perseveranze

Most women in Egypt would probably feel insulted at that and think MB's being too kind with their response.

edit: Just realised this probably is a parody [I mean, whether the UN actually said this or not]. After reading it in full [ie. Homosexuals, prostitution respect, only girls want sexual freedom [huge generalisation against the men and a disrespect against both Egypts culture and religious values] etc. I don't think you would need MB to have to tell the UN to get lost.

What gives you the authority to say that? What is insulting about allowing someone the freedom to decide who they would like to be without the threat of a death penalty or discrimination? Honestly, as a Pakistani woman whose government has a somewhat similar stance on gender equality, I fully support the UN bill and any legislature that forces the world to treat woman with respect and allow them the right to live their lives as they choose.

Original post by TheFrozenLake.

An insult to all Christian and Muslim inhabitants of Egypt who are 99.% of the inhabitants wanting to follow their faith.

A family can do this, You know how?
Negotiating.

I think the above response is too kind.

Original post by Ali-Iraq94

This goes against islam and christianity which make up a great majority of egypt´s population.
This is an insult to muslims and christians if you ask me!

I find it difficult to believe that basic human rights go against religious values. Aren't religions supposed to be the epitome of morality?

As for your insistence that families can work those things out themselves: Have you been to Egypt or a strict muslim country lately? These things do not 'work themselves out' except in the educated, wealthy portion of the population. Who will speak for the poor village girls whose husbands decide what they do and say and wear? There would be no need for the UN to address the issue had it not been an actual problem. Your naivete at the stark realities of the developing world is astonishing.

If you read the entire document it also speaks about treating marital rape as a crime and removing the husband's consent for matters such as work, travel or contraception. Basic human rights

I shouldn't be surprised at apparently sane rational people defending the sort of ridiculous nonsense the Brotherhood spits out, but I am.

Reply 9

Skip_Snip

Original post by Willbean

You think the Muslim brotherhood is nuts? Look at what Scientology do and the **** they believe in.

They dropped a H-bomb in a volcano! Seriously?! And then force ghosts to watch films in 'three-D'!

Y'mean like Anakin, Yoda and Obi? :wink:

Reply 10

Willbean

Original post by Skip_Snip

Y'mean like Anakin, Yoda and Obi? :wink:

Scary thing is that I'm bloody serious, look at 'Thetans'. They actually believe aliens dropped a hydrogen bomb into a volcano.

Spread **** about them and they attempt to ruin your life using some real nasty tricks like ruining your reputation and
spreading lies.

And I don't mean force as in the ability force. I mean force ghosts agaisnt their will to watch religious films. In 3-D.

Reply 11

Pedd

Socially-backward lunatics.

Reply 12

Azarimanka

What can I say? Islamic governments are all primitive.

Reply 13

Skip_Snip

Original post by Azarimanka

What can I say? Islamic governments are all primitive.

To be fair in many cases that sententence works without the word government

Reply 14

JerzyDudek

choose to have normal or homo- sexual relationships

Nice one.

Reply 15

Azarimanka

Original post by Skip_Snip

To be fair in many cases that sententence works without the word government

We could just say Theocracies. It's just that in the modern and civilised world the Christians/Jews/Hindus and everyone else, *do not seek to have theocratic government* (Deep south loonies excluded).

Reply 16

Skip_Snip

Original post by Azarimanka

Haha yes, that's a much fairer way of putting it :P

Reply 17

Jordan-James

I dont get it, surely the response is expected?

Just because you live in a country that accepts it, doesnt mean you denounce other countries if they dont.

Freedom to choose their own gender? You REALLY think any country from that part of the world is obliged to accept it?

Reality check.

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