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    Did anyone else watch The Secret of the Pickpockets last night on channel 4?

    I had it on in the background while I was cleaning my room and noticed that every single pickpocket the police either arrested or questioned on the London underground was an immigrant. Normally they sweep this sort of thing under the carpet by saying that 'plenty of British people are criminals too etc', but the police actually admitted without prompting that most pickpockets operating in London today are from Eastern Europe, this despite the fact that Eastern Europeans are still are minority in this country!

    I'm sure its available on 4OD if anyone wants to check my claims.

    Is this yet another dividend of multiculturalism and our membership of the EU?
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    I'm sure it is true and ill watch it later. Its happened because if anyone made that assumption or even hinted at it, they'd be called racist even if it was statistically true. With regards to the EU, yes it is largely responsible but so is the previous labour government for ignoring immigration for electoral gain. That party's stance on the matter can be summed up with what gordon brown said to gillian duffy.
    The EU in my view has reached its peak in terms of influence and control, i don't see it enlarging any further and if we do get a referendum in 2017, thats the same year as the french elections so the french will probably start demanding a referendum too and when they leave, no one can fill the funding gap and it will collapse. All the EU wants in power, thats why it is so willing to accept turkey and did so bulgaria and romania despite the fact they are very poor and all of the negative social effects they will bring to the rest of the EU.
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    (Original post by Josh94)
    I'm sure it is true and ill watch it later. Its happened because if anyone made that assumption or even hinted at it, they'd be called racist even if it was statistically true. With regards to the EU, yes it is largely responsible but so is the previous labour government for ignoring immigration for electoral gain. That party's stance on the matter can be summed up with what gordon brown said to gillian duffy.
    The EU in my view has reached its peak in terms of influence and control, i don't see it enlarging any further and if we do get a referendum in 2017, thats the same year as the french elections so the french will probably start demanding a referendum too and when they leave, no one can fill the funding gap and it will collapse. All the EU wants in power, thats why it is so willing to accept turkey and did so bulgaria and romania despite the fact they are very poor and all of the negative social effects they will bring to the rest of the EU.
    Agreed. Good post.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    Did anyone else watch The Secret of the Pickpockets last night on channel 4?

    I had it on in the background while I was cleaning my room and noticed that every single pickpocket the police either arrested or questioned on the London underground was an immigrant. Normally they sweep this sort of thing under the carpet by saying that 'plenty of British people are criminals too etc', but the police actually admitted without prompting that most pickpockets operating in London today are from Eastern Europe, this despite the fact that Eastern Europeans are still are minority in this country!

    I'm sure its available on 4OD if anyone wants to check my claims.

    Is this yet another dividend of multiculturalism and our membership of the EU?
    Then you should have also noticed that almost every person in the London underground was an immigrant regardless...
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    (Original post by Dragonfly07)
    Then you should have also noticed that almost every person in the London underground was an immigrant regardless...
    Oh well, that's ok then!
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    That's probably partly due to the Roma. I remember when I was in Paris and they were pretending to be a charity to extort money out of naive tourists. We were also mugged by one of them in a tube in Barcelona. It seems they've made their way over to England, although they still do not exert as large of an influence here as they do in continental Europe
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    I noticed that too, comin' over here, takin' our things
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    (Original post by tengentoppa)
    That's probably partly due to the Roma. I remember when I was in Paris and they were pretending to be a charity to extort money out of naive tourists. We were also mugged by one of them in a tube in Barcelona. It seems they've made their way over to England, although they still do not exert as large of an influence here as they do in continental Europe
    Not yet, but wait until 1st January 2014 when they can legally come over here en mass. The underground will be awash with thieves and pickpockets and there won't be a thing we can do about it, except throw yet more taxpayers' cash at it in the form of undercover policing. I honestly despair at the way this country is run sometimes.
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    very weak logic. In a city where 55% are first, second or third generation immigrants, a majority of criminals will be immigrants too. The number is greater when looking at Londoners living in poverty. Crime has gone down despite immigration.
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    Anyone that goes around somewhere like the underground, in any city of any country, thinking that their stuff is safe is just being an idiot.

    So often you see morons with wallets in their back pockets, etc. and just.

    ****ing hell. How can people be this thick?
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    (Original post by amineamine2)
    very weak logic. In a city where 55% are first, second or third generation immigrants, a majority of criminals will be immigrants too. The number is greater when looking at Londoners living in poverty. Crime has gone down despite immigration.
    The majority of Londoners aren't Eastern Europeans, yet according to the professional undercover police officers who specialise in this sort of thing the majority of pickpockets are. My logic is fairly straightforward. As Eastern Europeans disporportionately commit this sort of crime a further influx of EU 'economic migrants' (hint: Romania and Bulgaria next year) will make the London Underground an even more unpleasant and dangerous place to be. Do we really need this?
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    (Original post by concubine)
    Anyone that goes around somewhere like the underground, in any city of any country, thinking that their stuff is safe is just being an idiot.

    So often you see morons with wallets in their back pockets, etc. and just.

    ****ing hell. How can people be this thick?
    The Underground would be safer though if it wasn't full of Romanian pickpockets.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    The majority of Londoners aren't Eastern Europeans, yet according to the professional undercover police officers who specialise in this sort of thing the majority of pickpockets are. My logic is fairly straightforward. As Eastern Europeans disporportionately commit this sort of crime a further influx of EU 'economic migrants' (hint: Romania and Bulgaria next year) will make the London Underground an even more unpleasant and dangerous place to be. Do we really need this?
    You are now amending the main argument which your thread title suggests. You sought to criticise multiculturalism and immigrants in London.
    And no, your logic is not straightforward. Crime will always exist, it's a matter of who does the crime. Either it's an indigenous lower-class or an migrated one. As long as there is a poor lower-class there will be criminals such as the ones you described and their ethnicity is irrelevant.
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    Deport the ****ers. end of.
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    (Original post by amineamine2)
    You are now amending the main argument which your thread title suggests. You sought to criticise multiculturalism and immigrants in London.
    And no, your logic is not straightforward. Crime will always exist, it's a matter of who does the crime. Either it's an indigenous lower-class or an migrated one. As long as there is a poor lower-class there will be criminals such as the ones you described and their ethnicity is irrelevant.
    So you don't attach any significance to the fact that the majority of pickpockets in the UK's capital city aren't English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh? Given that English residents in London still heavily outnumber Eastern Europeans (despite us being a minority when you combine all immigrant groups) logic would suggest that the crime stats would reflect this, yet according to the professionals this is nowhere near the case.

    Crime will always exists, true, but the fact is certain cultures tend to produce people who are drawn towards certain types of crime.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    The majority of Londoners aren't Eastern Europeans, yet according to the professional undercover police officers who specialise in this sort of thing the majority of pickpockets are. My logic is fairly straightforward. As Eastern Europeans disporportionately commit this sort of crime a further influx of EU 'economic migrants' (hint: Romania and Bulgaria next year) will make the London Underground an even more unpleasant and dangerous place to be. Do we really need this?
    When middle-class and rich people steal, they call it 'white collar crime' and it typically attracts a lower measure of disdain. Not that I'm keen on pickpockets, but as you just posted this thread as yet another boring and repetitive pretext to **** off the EU (how many threads are you going to start on this - are you paid by Ukip??), I thought I would just turn up here and point out that out. Is there any evidence that these gangs wouldn't be operating in London without the EU? There have always been foreign pickpockets operating in the city.
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    (Original post by Harry Callahan)
    Deport the ****ers. end of.
    How can we when we're part of the EU?

    The sooner we get out the better. British people deserve better than this.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    The Underground would be safer though if it wasn't full of Romanian pickpockets.
    There is very little crime now on the Underground - it is heavily monitored and patrolled and is one of the safest metro systems in the world. What is your evidence for a high rate of pickpocketing by Romanians on the Underground?
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    How can we when we're part of the EU?

    The sooner we get out the better. British people deserve better than this.
    Leave the EU. It's corrupt and undemocratic.
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    (Original post by Harry Callahan)
    Leave the EU. It's corrupt and undemocratic.
    Have you swallowed another Ukip press release?
 
 
 
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