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    NOTE: I HAVE IMMENSE RESPECT FOR DOCTORS - THE ONES THAT DO IT RIGHT. I FEEL WE SHOULD HOLD DOCTORS ACCOUNTABLE AND NOT TAKE THEIR WORD AS ABSOLUTE TRUTH. MY CONCERNS ARE ALSO RE EXPRESSED BY HEALTH-CARE GOVERNING BODIES, BBC DOCUMENTARIES, AND INNUMERABLE UNSATISFIED PATIENTS.

    Unfortunately, i have had many G.P's who have been quite terrible, through there were some who were good. I have a place at medical school and i have tried to do in-depth study of what a doctor does, and i just can not fathom how some G.P's are allowed to operate like this. Perhaps my comments will be mixed with a little anger, because of what i and many have gone through.

    I have been misdiagnoised so many times.

    The G.P's answer to every ilness is 'anti-biotics' or 'anxiety', which led to a gross misdiagnosis for me.

    I was diagnosed with a condition which the G.P's should have known about, and they had no idea. I may as well tell it to you: SVT, POTS, and a few other ilnesses. They had no idea, were rude to me, misdiagnosed me ect

    I asked them "What is SVT"?
    They STILL did not know what that meant!(they only told me they saw cases of it before, but could not tell me what it was? )The consultants offered me no support whatsoever, gave me a medication and said 'use it'.

    I've always wanted to be G.P as i wanted to really learn about a myriad of illnesses be more community based, forge long-term relationships with my patients, and the more balanced working hours was attractive as well.

    I hope to make money and go private.(as in, pay for my own private doctor as they probably care more (Or have to care/be competent as i'm paying them!).

    I admire the G.P's who do it right, and i understand the complexities with diagnosis, but this does not mean there should be a shield barring any medical professional from accountability.

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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    So many G.P's i have seen are literally useless. I have a place at medical school and i have tried to do indepth study of what a doctor does, and i just can not fathom what on earth G.P's actually learn.

    I do not wish to write what my ilness is, but i have been misdiagnoised so many times.

    The G.P's answer to every ilness is 'anti-biotics' or 'anxiety', which led to a gross misdiagnosis for me.

    I was diagnosed with a condition which the G.P's should have known about, and they had no idea. I may as well tell it to you: SVT, POTS, and a few other ilnesses. They had no idea, were rude to me, misdiagnosed me ect

    They STILL did not know what that meant! The consultants offered me no support whatsoever, gave me a medication and said 'use it'.

    I am hopefully going to become a doctor,but i must say, 80% of doctors i have seen especially G.P's could have had their job done by a farmer.

    All they do is check for the obvious signs, give you anti-biotics no matter what, and then keep you like that and refer you if you get worse. So much for skill?

    Is there an organisation i can see to anonymously report G.P surgeries ? Do these G.P's actually get trained properly ? Do we expect G.P's to know too little about too much?

    I hope to make money and go private. Seriously, it's one big joke.
    Wow.

    Are you sure you want to be a doctor?

    Edit: Why the negs? It's a serious question. He sounds like he is very unhappy with the training of GPs/doctors therefore I'm questioning why he would go into such a career?
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    (Original post by littleeggy)
    Wow.

    Are you sure you want to be a doctor?
    ofcourse. I just feel the G.P's i have seen (most) are utterly useless. If you ask a G.P so i was diagnoised with super ventricular tychardia, what's that?

    and they say they don't know. It really gives you confidence.
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    Get of your high horse, you havent even got to med school yet.
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    (Original post by Callumhamby)
    Get of your high horse, you havent even got to med school yet.
    Me being a doctor myself is not relevant here. The fact is i have received barely any help or support, and G.P's can't offer me any help , support, or advise for my ilness.

    Many of my friends have had similar experiences.
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    There's incompetent people in every job but likewise there'll be good people. If you're unhappy with a doctor then ask for a different one. If they are all saying the same thing, then I'm afraid it might be YOU who is wrong about the diagnosis.
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    (Original post by Michaelj)
    There's incompetent people in every job but likewise there'll be good people. If you're unhappy with a doctor then ask for a different one. If they are all saying the same thing, then I'm afraid it might be YOU who is wrong about the diagnosis.
    4 G.P's did not give me the tests i needed and simply misdiagnoised me at this surgery.

    I eventually kept going so many times (TWO YEARS) and they referred me, and i was right.
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    So many G.P's i have seen are literally useless. I have a place at medical school and i have tried to do indepth study of what a doctor does, and i just can not fathom what on earth G.P's actually learn.

    I have been misdiagnoised so many times.

    The G.P's answer to every ilness is 'anti-biotics' or 'anxiety', which led to a gross misdiagnosis for me.

    I was diagnosed with a condition which the G.P's should have known about, and they had no idea. I may as well tell it to you: SVT, POTS, and a few other ilnesses. They had no idea, were rude to me, misdiagnosed me ect

    They STILL did not know what that meant! The consultants offered me no support whatsoever, gave me a medication and said 'use it'.

    I am hopefully going to become a doctor,but i must say, 80% of doctors i have seen especially G.P's could have had their job done by a farmer.

    All they do is check for the obvious signs, give you anti-biotics no matter what, and then keep you like that and refer you if you get worse. So much for skill?

    Is there an organisation i can see to anonymously report G.P surgeries ? Do these G.P's actually get trained properly ? Do we expect G.P's to know too little about too much?

    I've always wanted to be G.P due to the relaxed life-style, but i am totally put of. I want to go into medicine to give people answers, to be useful, and i don't think handing out anti-biotics all the time is a good use of my life.

    I hope to make money and go private.(as in, pay for my own private doctor as they probably care more)
    Seriously, it's one big joke.
    This has to be trolling. If not, have fun getting experience from those rubbish consultants and GPs in your clinical years. If you're not a troll, you're an incredibly ignorant person to think you could do better than a trained professional.

    You didn't self-diagnose your condition, you merely thought you had one and happened to be correct. You didn't one-up the doctor because, as he/she should have, they only referred a non-urgent case when it was apparent it wasn't another condition.

    They don't have to refer you immediately to be a good GP. That's not how medicine works except in a few instances...

    Furthermore, way to judge an entire profession based on your no doubt narrow experiences at one surgery. Fascinating lack of insight and logic right there.
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    So many G.P's i have seen are literally useless. I have a place at medical school and i have tried to do indepth study of what a doctor does, and i just can not fathom what on earth G.P's actually learn.

    I have been misdiagnoised so many times.

    The G.P's answer to every ilness is 'anti-biotics' or 'anxiety', which led to a gross misdiagnosis for me.

    I was diagnosed with a condition which the G.P's should have known about, and they had no idea. I may as well tell it to you: SVT, POTS, and a few other ilnesses. They had no idea, were rude to me, misdiagnosed me ect

    They STILL did not know what that meant! The consultants offered me no support whatsoever, gave me a medication and said 'use it'.

    I am hopefully going to become a doctor,but i must say, 80% of doctors i have seen especially G.P's could have had their job done by a farmer.

    All they do is check for the obvious signs, give you anti-biotics no matter what, and then keep you like that and refer you if you get worse. So much for skill?

    Is there an organisation i can see to anonymously report G.P surgeries ? Do these G.P's actually get trained properly ? Do we expect G.P's to know too little about too much?

    I've always wanted to be G.P due to the relaxed life-style, but i am totally put of. I want to go into medicine to give people answers, to be useful, and i don't think handing out anti-biotics all the time is a good use of my life.

    I hope to make money and go private.(as in, pay for my own private doctor as they probably care more)
    Seriously, it's one big joke.
    Wow you're arrogant. You're going to have a lot of fun in your clinical years when you're this arrogant to clinicians. They will soon knock this chip off your shoulder
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    i just can not fathom what on earth G.P's actually learn.

    I am hopefully going to become a doctor,but i must say, 80% of doctors i have seen especially G.P's could have had their job done by a farmer.

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    Don't you go to Imperial or something? :lolwut:

    I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but generalisations and insults are probably not going to help... All GPs I've seen/shadowed have been excellent.
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    Have you ever considered.... there might literally be nothing wrong with you.
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    (Original post by Pandabär)
    Don't you go to Imperial or something? :lolwut:

    I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but generalisations and insults are probably not going to help... All GPs I've seen/shadowed have been excellent.
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    Wow you're arrogant. You're going to have a lot of fun in your clinical years when you're this arrogant to clinicians. They will soon knock this chip off your shoulder
    (Original post by MattKneale)
    This has to be trolling. If not, have fun getting experience from those rubbish consultants and GPs in your clinical years. If you're not a troll, you're an incredibly ignorant person to think you could do better than a trained professional.

    You didn't self-diagnose your condition, you merely thought you had one and happened to be correct. You didn't one-up the doctor because, as he/she should have, they only referred a non-urgent case when it was apparent it wasn't another condition.

    They don't have to refer you immediately to be a good GP. That's not how medicine works except in a few instances...
    There is literally no arrogance in me with regards to this issue. 20% of doctors i shadowed were brilliant. The fact is the majority of doctors (literally) were terrible.

    I'll name what they've done:

    > Hid a diagnosis from me, when i was 16 and competent.
    > Misdiagnoised me so many times
    > Started to use religion to patronise me
    > Told me to stop coming to the surgery, and then later acknowledged they mis-diagnosed me
    > An ENT consultant who i was referred to barely made any checks and was laughing at me, until we pushed him to actually help us.
    > Can't even tell me what SVT is, can't give me any help information and support.



    Clearly i am not trying to paint them all with one brush, but if you read the news, you'll see that negligence and incompetence, especially by G.P's is a growing issue in the NHS. There have even been under cover documentaries.

    We need to stop giving doctors immunity from their actions and start making them more accountable.

    So it is far from arrogance, it's concern, perhaps anger too.
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    yea,

    Doctors a definitely losing their respect in society (by me anyway)

    I think they should raise the entry requirements in all med schools from AAA to A*A*AA or something very very hard to get. (only a minority of people in society would get this, which would mean A LOT less donkeys would apply for med school)

    This would mean only the academic elites would have the ability to be a doctor ( you may argue that academia is not everything blah blah... shut up. If you are not smart I don't want you deciding what illness I have.)

    To be frank, some of the people that went on to medicine at my school were complete dumb I wouldn't let them look after my gold fish never mind my health

    EDIT: I know my views are most likely frowned upon as you would think that I am "just jealous"... this is not case... I want to be a Chemical Engineer, not a medical doctor...I have never considered being a medical doctor as that type of work does not appeal to me

    EDIT: I see I have accumulated several more negs since my latest ban. Did I say something wrong? Explain.
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    (Original post by rageagainstessays)
    Have you ever considered.... there might literally be nothing wrong with you.
    There was something wrong with me. After two years of misdiagnosing me and with-holding referrals, they acknowledged they made a mistake and i had two medical conditions.

    POTS , and SVT.
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    Count yourself lucky that you're in the UK where you don't have to pay through the nose for 'useless' GP services.
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    (Original post by madfish)
    yea,

    Doctors a definitely losing their respect in society (by me anyway)

    I think they should raise the entry requirements in all med schools from AAA to A*A*AA or something very very hard to get. (only a minority of people in society would get this, which would mean A LOT less donkeys would apply for med school)

    This would mean only the academic elites would have the ability to be a doctor ( you may argue that academia is not everything blah blah... shut up. If you are not smart I don't want you deciding what illness I have.)

    To be frank, some of the people that went on to medicine at my school were complete dumb asses I wouldn't let them look after my gold fish never mind my health

    I think it's hard enough to get into medical school, with the BMAT and UKCAT ect.

    I don't think it's aptitude.

    If you think about it, most of these doctors got in decades ago, when you needed BBB to get into medical school and when it was easier.

    So many doctors are from abroad, and i read an article on the BBC stating that doctors from abroad were the most incompetent and that further training needs to be introduced.

    A lot of people here are slating me for arrogance, which i would brush aside had i not had a great admiration for medicine and doctors, which is why i hold them to high standards.
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    So many G.P's i have seen are literally useless. I have a place at medical school and i have tried to do indepth study of what a doctor does, and i just can not fathom what on earth G.P's actually learn.

    I have been misdiagnoised so many times.

    The G.P's answer to every ilness is 'anti-biotics' or 'anxiety', which led to a gross misdiagnosis for me.

    I was diagnosed with a condition which the G.P's should have known about, and they had no idea. I may as well tell it to you: SVT, POTS, and a few other ilnesses. They had no idea, were rude to me, misdiagnosed me ect

    They STILL did not know what that meant! The consultants offered me no support whatsoever, gave me a medication and said 'use it'.

    I am hopefully going to become a doctor,but i must say, 80% of doctors i have seen especially G.P's could have had their job done by a farmer.

    All they do is check for the obvious signs, give you anti-biotics no matter what, and then keep you like that and refer you if you get worse. So much for skill?

    Is there an organisation i can see to anonymously report G.P surgeries ? Do these G.P's actually get trained properly ? Do we expect G.P's to know too little about too much?

    I've always wanted to be G.P due to the relaxed life-style, but i am totally put of. I want to go into medicine to give people answers, to be useful, and i don't think handing out anti-biotics all the time is a good use of my life.

    I hope to make money and go private.(as in, pay for my own private doctor as they probably care more)
    Seriously, it's one big joke.
    I understand you completely, I am at a loss to explain how pathetic the G.Ps are these days. Only a few months ago my brother broke his leg, went to the GP and got only antibiotics. They said he was fine to go to school, so he went for the whole week walking to and from school on a broken leg. It was only until my mum saw that his leg was turning greeny black that we took him back and forced them to give an x-ray, at which point they discovered he had a broken leg. I find it embarrassing for this country that we put these clueless muppets in charge of our day to day well-being.
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    There is literally no arrogance in me with regards to this issue. 20% of doctors i shadowed were brilliant. The fact is the majority of doctors (literally) were terrible.

    I'll name what they've done:

    > Hid a diagnosis from me, when i was 16 and competent.
    > Misdiagnoised me so many times
    > Started to use religion to patronise me
    > Told me to stop coming to the surgery, and then later acknowledged they mis-diagnosed me
    > An ENT consultant who i was referred to barely made any checks and was laughing at me, until we pushed him to actually help us.
    > Can't even tell me what SVT is, can't give me any help information and support.



    Clearly i am not trying to paint them all with one brush, but if you read the news, you'll see that negligence and incompetence, especially by G.P's is a growing issue in the NHS. There have even been under cover documentaries.

    We need to stop giving doctors immunity from their actions and start making them more accountable.

    So it is far from arrogance, it's concern, perhaps anger too.
    You've missed our point. You can't have shadowed any more than, realistically, 10 GPs at an absolute maximum. Even if you had shadowed 50 GPs and found many to be incompetent, that still does not mirror the entire state of GP services.

    Your bad experiences are not sufficient to label all GPs as ****. Not even a majority.

    You're showing ignorance by not accepting that, and by thinking you could do a better job in a similar instance. You clearly do not understand the budgetary constraints GPs are under, either. They cannot refer every single case to a specialist.
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    (Original post by MENDACIUM)
    Me being a doctor myself is not relevant here. The fact is i have received barely any help or support, and G.P's can't offer me any help , support, or advise for my ilness.

    Many of my friends have had similar experiences.
    Yet my GP saved my life by having very up to date knowledge and ensured that I got rushed into hospital.

    You've got a very, very narrow point of view and very limited data so your conclusion's are pretty much useless. I could assume that because my GP rocks, all GP's rock. However I know my point of view is limited so I wouldn't paint all GP's with the same brush.
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    (Original post by tr12)
    I understand you completely, I am at a loss to explain how pathetic the G.Ps are these days. Only a few months ago my brother broke his leg, went to the GP and got only antibiotics. They said he was fine to go to school, so he went for the whole week walking to and from school on a broken leg. It was only until my mum saw that his leg was turning greeny black that we took him back and forced them to give an x-ray, at which point they discovered he had a broken leg. I find it embarrassing for this country that we put these clueless muppets in charge of our day to day well-being.
    Why on Earth did he go to his GP for a broken leg? That's exactly the sort of event you go to your local A&E for.

    Furthermore, depending on the fracture, antibiotics aren't always inappropriate.

    I find the rest of what you've said very unlikely.
 
 
 
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