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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    Lol, I'm not that shy on here anymore but in RL I'm the shyest person you could ever meet.
    It doesn't matter what clothes you wear or what your hair is like if you have an ugly face. The face is what attracts men. How could they fancy a female if she had a repulsive face?
    Ok, repulsive is an exaggeration. Idk, sometimes i see guys that have a not so attractive face and I'm still attracted because they have a good sense of style and a good body. I expect it's the same for them.
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    (Original post by Ashahedow)
    Ok, repulsive is an exaggeration. Idk, sometimes i see guys that have a not so attractive face and I'm still attracted because they have a good sense of style and a good body. I expect it's the same for them.
    It's different if you're a girl.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    It's different if you're a girl.
    Seriously, I don't know what else to say because a) I'm sure you're not as ugly as you're making out anyway b) There will no doubt be guys that are willing to go for you if you put the effort in. How are they supposed to approach you if you're not doing anything to get their attention, personality wise or looks wise? C) Relationships are seriously overrated anyway. I and a lot of other people would rather be single.
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    (Original post by Ashahedow)
    Seriously, I don't know what else to say because a) I'm sure you're not as ugly as you're making out anyway b) There will no doubt be guys that are willing to go for you if you put the effort in. How are they supposed to approach you if you're not doing anything to get their attention, personality wise or looks wise? C) Relationships are seriously overrated anyway. I and a lot of other people would rather be single.
    Not doing anything? It's all I do virtually do.

    Why do you say relationships are overrated?
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    (Original post by Ashahedow)
    Ok, repulsive is an exaggeration. Idk, sometimes i see guys that have a not so attractive face and I'm still attracted because they have a good sense of style and a good body. I expect it's the same for them.
    (Original post by im so academic)
    It's different if you're a girl.
    This.

    It doesn't matter what a guy looks like. Girls care more about personality than looks. I've fancied boys before who didn't have particularly attractive faces. A guy's looks are pretty much irrelevant.

    It's different for a girl, and trying to pretend it isn't is a delusion. Girls are supposed to be pretty. If you're not then you might as well not exist, because boys won't give you a single glance.
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    This.

    It doesn't matter what a guy looks like. Girls care more about personality than looks. I've fancied boys before who didn't have particularly attractive faces. A guy's looks are pretty much irrelevant.

    It's different for a girl, and trying to pretend it isn't is a delusion. Girls are supposed to be pretty. If you're not then you might as well not exist, because boys won't give you a single glance.
    Precisely this. I actually can't fall for a boy if I don't like their personality. Guys can't fall for girls if they aren't pretty.
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    This.

    It doesn't matter what a guy looks like. Girls care more about personality than looks. I've fancied boys before who didn't have particularly attractive faces. A guy's looks are pretty much irrelevant.

    It's different for a girl, and trying to pretend it isn't is a delusion. Girls are supposed to be pretty. If you're not then you might as well not exist, because boys won't give you a single glance.
    I hope you don't actually think girls are supposed to be beautiful and nothing else. Girls have increasingly had more influence in politics and society, more so than ever before, due to their intelligence and skills, and are slowly but surely moving away from the traditional role that girls are meant to sit pretty and be a trophy for men, and it would be very disheartening to see such a backward opinion.

    We do still live in a society where female beauty is put on a pedestal, mainly through media - I think (I'd like to think) this is what you meant. There has always been an emphasis on the ways girls look, something I disagree with but there you go, that's society for you. However, there's a difference from the ideal and the reality. History has shown that a society will always be reflected by their perfectionist aims, but in real life, these aims will not be achieved. Girls might be meant to be tall, blonde, beautiful, big breasts etc. to be the perfect woman by page 3 or porn, but in real life, most girls will not fit those ideals, and there will always be exceptions. "Ugly" girls will be able to get partners, no matter what the girls' role is supposed to be. Think of it like our drinking laws - you're meant to be over 18 to consume alcohol, but I know very, very few people who abide by that law.

    EDIT: And please, the way boys think is not that different to girls at all. If girls care more about personality, it is not unreasonable to believe that boys feel the same way.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    I don't want any of this crap like "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" (total nonsense) and "there are other qualities to consider, not just beauty" (YEAH right).

    Men, just give me your honest opinions when you see women. How far do you judge them on looks? Why do you hate ugly woman such as myself?

    How far do you base a woman's worth on her looks?

    I want honest answers.

    Look, no one is going to know you've posted in this thread. Just let out what you really think. I don't want to be lied to anymore.
    Tbh unless they (and/or):

    - have disabilities which severely impact on their life or their looks (like the ones shown on documentaries such as Body Shock)
    - have some severe genetic problem with a high chance of passing on to offspring
    - are a Muslim (I'm an apostate and can't be dealing with that ****)
    - are obese

    Then I'm inclined to look past everything else, even if they are ugly, since I probably am too.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    Precisely this. I actually can't fall for a boy if I don't like their personality. Guys can't fall for girls if they aren't pretty.
    Exactly. Me and you are so on the same wavelength :yep:

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    I hope you don't actually think girls are supposed to be beautiful and nothing else. Girls have increasingly had more influence in politics and society, more so than ever before, due to their intelligence and skills, and are slowly but surely moving away from the traditional role that girls are meant to sit pretty and be a trophy for men, and it would be very disheartening to see such a backward opinion.

    We do still live in a society where female beauty is put on a pedestal, mainly through media - I think (I'd like to think) this is what you meant. There has always been an emphasis on the ways girls look, something I disagree with but there you go, that's society for you. However, there's a difference from the ideal and the reality. History has shown that a society will always be reflected by their perfectionist aims, but in real life, these aims will not be achieved. Girls might be meant to be tall, blonde, beautiful, big breasts etc. to be the perfect woman by page 3 or porn, but in real life, most girls will not fit those ideals, and there will always be exceptions. "Ugly" girls will be able to get partners, no matter what the girls' role is supposed to be. Think of it like our drinking laws - you're meant to be over 18 to consume alcohol, but I know very, very few people who abide by that law.

    EDIT: And please, the way boys think is not that different to girls at all. If girls care more about personality, it is not unreasonable to believe that boys feel the same way.
    They don't have to be "beautiful and nothing else", but they certainly do have to be beautiful. When did you ever see an ugly female news reader or weather girl or presenter, hm?

    Beautiful doesn't mean you have to be tall, blonde and breasty, it just means you have to be aesthetically pleasing. If you are not, then you will always always be at a disadvantage and discriminated against.

    Another example: I have seen on countless times a good looking girl with an unattractive man. However, I don't think I have ever seen a good looking guy with an ugly girl. That speaks volumes. Guys are visual creatures and the minimum they insist for is a pretty face. If you are an out and out ugly looking girl, then you might as well just die.
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    (Original post by brendonbackflip)
    I hope you don't actually think girls are supposed to be beautiful and nothing else. Girls have increasingly had more influence in politics and society, more so than ever before, due to their intelligence and skills, and are slowly but surely moving away from the traditional role that girls are meant to sit pretty and be a trophy for men, and it would be very disheartening to see such a backward opinion.
    It's easier to get a career if you're pretty.

    We do still live in a society where female beauty is put on a pedestal, mainly through media - I think (I'd like to think) this is what you meant. There has always been an emphasis on the ways girls look, something I disagree with but there you go, that's society for you. However, there's a difference from the ideal and the reality. History has shown that a society will always be reflected by their perfectionist aims, but in real life, these aims will not be achieved. Girls might be meant to be tall, blonde, beautiful, big breasts etc. to be the perfect woman by page 3 or porn, but in real life, most girls will not fit those ideals, and there will always be exceptions. "Ugly" girls will be able to get partners, no matter what the girls' role is supposed to be. Think of it like our drinking laws - you're meant to be over 18 to consume alcohol, but I know very, very few people who abide by that law.
    It's easier if you're beautiful.

    EDIT: And please, the way boys think is not that different to girls at all. If girls care more about personality, it is not unreasonable to believe that boys feel the same way.
    :rofl:
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    Tbh unless they (and/or):

    - have disabilities which severely impact on their life or their looks (like the ones shown on documentaries such as Body Shock)
    - have some severe genetic problem with a high chance of passing on to offspring
    - are a Muslim (I'm an apostate and can't be dealing with that ****)
    - are obese

    Then I'm inclined to look past everything else, even if they are ugly, since I probably am too.
    I'm not any of those things. Don't get me wrong, I'm not stick thin, but I'm hardly obese...
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    In the politest way possible it is, deny it as much as you like but no one wants to date a hog... and lets face it your cant really beat one out toa personality, they might be the loveliest person in the world but theres got to be a little more than that.
    but as the OP pointed out beauty is indeed in the eyes of the beholder so there isnt really an answer as one mans hog is anothers blonde beauty.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    I'm not any of those things. Don't get me wrong, I'm not stick thin, but I'm hardly obese...
    Oh yeah, forgot to include that as well. Seeing a girl's skeletal figure is just as bad as seeing nothing but wobbling fat with 10 chins.

    So you're not any of the stuff I mentioned, you're not obese and not too thin. What's the problem then?
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    Oh yeah, forgot to include that as well. Seeing a girl's skeletal figure is just as bad as seeing nothing but wobbling fat with 10 chins.

    So you're not any of the stuff I mentioned, you're not obese and not too thin. What's the problem then?
    I'm genuinely ugly.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    I'm genuinely ugly.
    So? Who do you think would have an easier time getting laid, an ugly guy or an ugly girl?
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    For me, beauty is relative. everyone have their own opinions about it. but in my opinion all of girls are pretty, moreover if they train their brain by study and get a lot of knowledge for their selves and future. The most important things that how they treat their selves and keep their good behavior.
    Just be your self.. the beauty isn't only stand in phisic appearance but also inner side, intelegent and behavior.
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    (Original post by Final Fantasy)
    So? Who do you think would have an easier time getting laid, an ugly guy or an ugly girl?
    An ugly guy.
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    (Original post by im so academic)
    An ugly guy.
    That's bull****, in an experiment where an ugly guy and an ugly girl went on a night out trying to pull, the guy would have no chance whereas the girl if she offered sex would eventually be taken up on that offer (provided the person is drunk enough I suppose).

    It's a lot easier for girls to get sex if they really wanted it that badly. Guys would have to pay.
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    (Original post by Maid Marian)
    I'm with you ISA.
    If a girl is not at least moderately pretty, she may as well not exist. Simple fact, because no boy would ever look at her and therefore her existence is worthless.
    So you're saying that females exist just for the purpose of attracting people?

    Lol, if you judge your worth based on how you look, that is very shallow. I for one know that there is so much more I can contribute in life than to just be aesthetically pleasing to people. Give yourself a little more credit.

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    I'm kind of shallow 'cause I'm attracted to a girl by her looks before her personality, but I don't fancy traditionally 'beautiful' women and personality will always be the dealmaker or the dealbreaker. One of the girls I fancied didn't even wear make-up.
 
 
 
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