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    (Original post by midnightice)
    I shop online, mainly Gucci, Ralph Lauren and Rolex, anything society considers to be of elite value. I read The Guardian because it oozes sophistication and is the epitome of toff centricity. All of this clearly makes me a superior being and a label really adds value to my existence...

    Seriously, why does ANY of this matter? Why try and ascertain my label by attaching it to predetermined stereotypes? I don't want to preach socialism or anything, but the UK emphasis on class is a perfect example of how Capitalism has destroyed our sense of humanity.
    My point is that it still exists, even when denied.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    My point is that it still exists, even when denied.
    So does religion, but it doesn't mean we should stick with its toxic nature if we want to progress. I don't care if it still exists as my opinion is enough for me. I take pride in my 'denial' of something so clearly wrong as I can look down on those who still emphasise importance of it.
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    (Original post by midnightice)
    There's just too much emphasis on 'class'. It's only a label and serves no purpose. When anyone asks me what class I consider myself, I tell them to jog on. Pointless.
    Except as a means to understand society.
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    Middle class in thinking. Working class in material assets.
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    (Original post by Kibalchich)
    Except as a means to understand society.
    Understanding society as a flawed and outdated society, yes, I agree. Look at other MEDCs like us. Their 'class' system is pretty much invisible/weak in extent. What do we gain from it? Wake up; it's just pompous and pretentious remnants of our past's aristocracy.
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    Lower-middle-middle class. Parents don't have university education, but are business owners and have foreign property. I've spent more time in state schools than in private schools. One side of my family is generally very working class, the other is generally quite/very middle class. It's quite hard to label, but I think I just about captured it. Middle-middle class to me usually involves university education and a pretty high degree of family employment in the professions.
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    (Original post by midnightice)
    Understanding society as a flawed and outdated society, yes, I agree. Look at other MEDCs like us. Their 'class' system is pretty much invisible/weak in extent. What do we gain from it? Wake up; it's just pompous and pretentious remnants of our past's aristocracy.
    Understanding power in society is pompous and pretentious?
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    (Original post by midnightice)
    I shop online, mainly Gucci, Ralph Lauren and Rolex, anything society considers to be of elite value. I read The Guardian because it oozes sophistication and is the epitome of toff centricity. All of this clearly makes me a superior being and a label really adds value to my existence...

    Seriously, why does ANY of this matter? Why try and ascertain my label by attaching it to predetermined stereotypes? I don't want to preach socialism or anything, but the UK emphasis on class is a perfect example of how Capitalism has destroyed our sense of humanity.

    The UK emphasis on class is based upon feudalism not capitalism!
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    Middle Working, brought up on a barely average estate, went to a sub-par comprehensive.

    Mother is a career but low-ranking Civil Servent, Dad has a had a host of jobs from Solider, Taxi/Bus Driver/Truck Driver/Print Press worker etc, never had much in the way of money, looking back on it we struggled an awful lot, still do.
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    (Original post by eddieteetree)
    The UK emphasis on class is based upon feudalism not capitalism!
    Both really. The economic evolution derived our class-centric nature, so feudalism to capitalism carried it over?
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    Under Class-Lower Working class barely. Dad was unemployed, my mum worked constantly. Central London council estate kid. Worked to afford to go to university - I plan to be at least upper middle class for my kids sake.
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    Middle class. My father is a retired Army officer (as are most male members of my family), my mother is a teacher (although has a distinctly middle class degree - agriculture!). I spent five years at public school, I read the Times, and I live in an old farmhouse in a very rural village. Can't get much more traditional middle class than that!
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    Middle Class. Aspiring to be lower upper class. Will take a while, but it looks achievable.

    Btw: LOL at the guy who said that distinctions between classes were becoming less pronounced. Yeah, exactly...
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    (Original post by Elcano)
    Middle Class. Aspiring to be lower upper class. Will take a while, but it looks achievable.

    Btw: LOL at the guy who said that distinctions between classes were becoming less pronounced. Yeah, exactly...
    This is why it's interesting - a few years back, politicians including Tony Blair were talking about the end of the class society and you heard politicians mouthing phrases like "we're all middle class now". This trend seems to have come to nothing, isn't Britain in fact becoming more class-bound now, not less?
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    (Original post by Kibalchich)
    Understanding power in society is pompous and pretentious?
    No, class society is pompous and pretentious. The wording there was quite confusing - my bad!
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    (Original post by midnightice)
    No, class society is pompous and pretentious. The wording there was quite confusing - my bad!
    Class is the reality of capitalism.
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    (Original post by Kibalchich)
    Class is the reality of capitalism.
    Well, yes. But our media and other social institutions exaggerate its nature to unhealthy levels.
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    (Original post by Fullofsurprises)
    This is why it's interesting - a few years back, politicians including Tony Blair were talking about the end of the class society and you heard politicians mouthing phrases like "we're all middle class now". This trend seems to have come to nothing, isn't Britain in fact becoming more class-bound now, not less?
    Are you for or against this? I find it hard to think of one good reason to be for it.
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    (Original post by Kibalchich)
    Except as a means to understand society.
    No such thing.
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    (Original post by EvilOfficer)
    The Subject Class.

    I find it depressing how the so-called British 'middle class' strains every muscle to separate themselves from what is known as the British 'working class' and strongly aspires to be the part of upper class, therefore accept every opportunity possible to eat of the hands of the bourgeois 1%.

    Living in post-Communist Poland I never really understood the concept of social class division, yet now I entirely sympathize with the failed architecture of what was to become a new order in the relations of production as I find class division little better than master-slave relations.

    - Totally apolitical LSE law student
    Well, my family suffered a great hostility towards their aristocratic background as a result of the Bolshevik social experiments. :reddevil:
 
 
 
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