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    Given the mess the financial world is in, are their any workable alternatives to money?
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    No. Why would anyone have any motivation to change?
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    Well we could go back to swapping items of similar value. But it would almost certainly eventually result in people using standardised items of exactly the same value to each other, otherwise known as money.
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    I don't think so in the near term. Supposedly, to veer off into the realms of fiction, they dispensed with money as we know it in the world of Star Trek although they don't go into a lot of detail as to how.

    Perhaps there ought to be some sort of cap on the amount of private wealth any one individual can hold or bequeath to their children.
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    (Original post by Aliccam)
    Given the mess the financial world is in, are their any workable alternatives to money?
    None that could sustain society as it has developed since currency's invention. We depend too heavily on efficiency in trade to return to a bartering society, and society itself has become too complex. The advance in standard of living has arisen from increases in productivity; the increases in productivity have arisen from greater and greater specialisation/division of labour. This system relies on an efficient medium of exchange to convert most or all of a man's niche produce to other things which he needs for survival. Imagine people paying quarterly gas bills with 45 chickens/2300 safety pins/24 minutes of legal services, depending on their trade. Simply wouldn't work.
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    No but seriousely the mess of the financial world is not reflective of the failings of money . It meets the objectives of being a means of payment, a store of value etc. The problems of the financial sector are more to do with the failings of people trying to make money( the people in finance, mortgage markets) ,those who were spending it, taking out mortgages borrowing it heavily(consumers) and the people who were supposed to be in charge and who affect money supply (governments, central banks). The pipes are broken and need fixing not the water
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    (Original post by TurboCretin)
    None that could sustain society as it has developed since currency's invention. We depend too heavily on efficiency in trade to return to a bartering society, and society itself has become too complex. The advance in standard of living has arisen from increases in productivity; the increases in productivity have arisen from greater and greater specialisation/division of labour. This system relies on an efficient medium of exchange to convert most or all of a man's niche produce to other things which he needs for survival. Imagine people paying quarterly gas bills with 45 chickens/2300 safety pins/24 minutes of legal services, depending on their trade. Simply wouldn't work.
    Could we not exchange man hours of productivity for the things we need?
    The main problem with the money system now is that there is little relation between productivity and reward.
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    (Original post by usamakhanlodhi)
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    No but seriousely the mess of the financial world is not reflective of the failings of money . It meets the objectives of being a means of payment, a store of value etc. The problems of the financial sector are more to do with the failings of people trying to make money( the people in finance, mortgage markets) ,those who were spending it, taking out mortgages borrowing it heavily(consumers) and the people who were supposed to be in charge and who affect money supply (governments, central banks). The pipes are broken and need fixing not the water
    It used to be a store of value but has now become so distorted, and easy to manipulate, it has lost a lot of its reliability. We have wound up with a massive parasitic system that feeds off the productive, and I don't mean the unemployed.
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    (Original post by Aliccam)
    Given the mess the financial world is in, are their any workable alternatives to money?
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    (Original post by Aliccam)
    Given the mess the financial world is in, are their any workable alternatives to money?
    bitcoin?
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    Yes, it's called a resource based economy.

    http://thevenusproject.com/the-venus...-based-economy

    Is it genuinely viable as of right now? Probably not because the majority of the world is brainwashed by social control, greed and religion.
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    There aren't. You're just essentially still exchanging one denomination to another.

    (Original post by Aliccam)
    Could we not exchange man hours of productivity for the things we need?
    The main problem with the money system now is that there is little relation between productivity and reward.
    How exactly do you propose to do this? How exactly do you get people to agree to this?
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    Always means giving ultimate control to someone.
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    (Original post by Aliccam)
    Could we not exchange man hours of productivity for the things we need?
    The main problem with the money system now is that there is little relation between productivity and reward.
    That doesn't sound like an alternative to money, that sounds more like a different way of paying people. I.e. everyone gets an identical hourly rate regardless of what their job is or how good they are at it. And it would mean the cost of any goods or services would be based purely on the number of man hours it took to produce/provide.

    I don't see how you could enforce such a system.
 
 
 
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