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    (Original post by IlexBlue)
    Stop placing the blame for your own mistakes on other people, and take some responsibility. You basically pinned getting iffy results on the people around you instead of your own laziness and lack of motivation to do so, and even look down on other people if they're not "clever/ middle class" which I assume you think is synonymous with class and intelligence. I can assure you they're not (and "dumb asses with mental problems" is fairly offensive and snotty of you, FYI.) If you're unhappy with what you've got and believe you can achieve more, own up to your mistakes, take a couple of years out and start over, but don't go chasing after some pretentious dream of going to a rah-filled red brick with naive, snobby teenagers from privileged backgrounds because you think it sounds nice and sophisticated and that's it. There's not even that much of a difference between universities and the students when you get past the ranking.

    Your last post only shows that you're in this for the image and what other people think, rather than your heart being in it. You shouldn't give a **** and it's only lowering yourself to their level when you do so. No one cares about university or which one it was once it's done with, so stop focusing on this needless, unrealistic superficial nonsense.

    And lastly, going to the orchestra does not make you sophisticated or clever, and neither does going to a red brick. "Surrounded by fools"... stop chasing this naive little fantasy of yours and looking down on anyone else who doesn't share the dream of a ~Russell Group uni~ and sort yourself out. You're in for a very rude awakening otherwise.

    This. OP you act like you are entitled to a RG education. People can and do get good grades despite going to bad schools. I was surrounded by chavs and dossers but I managed alright. No offence, but if you really were cut out for a RG university you would be achieving the grades. It's not too late though. You still have time to prove yourself. Revise like mad for your A2s, Get As, take a gap year, reapply.
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    (Original post by Tabzqt)
    This. OP you act like you are entitled to a RG education. People can and do get good grades despite going to bad schools. I was surrounded by chavs and dossers but I managed alright. No offence, but if you really were cut out for a RG university you would be achieving the grades. It's not too late though. You still have time to prove yourself. Revise like mad for your A2s, Get As, take a gap year, reapply.
    pfft I bet, what uni did you end up going?

    also could she not just go through clearing and get into a university like queen mary or something?
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    Also agree with Tab, I got 5C's 3B's 1A (BTEC ICT) and 4A* (BTEC media) but now doing maths, further maths, history and economics. I'm from one of those **** schools yes, but you have to self-study to do well
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    ok you've had a difficult time at school - time to quit whining about it and make something of your life. From your own comments you haven't worked as hard as you could and you aren't working as hard as you could now. What makes you think you'll do any better at university? You won't be surrounded by intelligent, hard-working people all the time, there will be lazy idiots there too.

    If you work hard and get good grades you can go into adjustment but you need to look carefully now at any universities you might consider. Get As and Bs and you'll find a lot of options still open because of the way the government funds universities. But if you don't change your attitude you aren't going to be happy anywhere. If you work hard and know you've done the best you can then you have every right to be proud of your achievements.
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    I can only speak for my subject, but I did my undergrad at a former poly, then got a Masters at a Russell Group. The former poly was streets ahead of the RG uni in terms of being on the cutting edge of research and allowing students more research freedom. The RG got very uneasy if you tried to challenge or break out of existing research models, which is ultimately what research needs to do if a subject is to advance. The RG uni teaching staff for my subject seemed to be at least partly populated by venerable elders who'd been there for years, whose ideas were cutting edge 20-30 years ago. They were living off lengthy and respected publication histories which tailed off ten years ago and whom nobody had they heart to contradict. They seemed to have a disproportionate influence on the atmosphere of the department, which felt stuffy and a bit stifling.

    RG isn't automatically a better place to learn than a former poly. It's a more subtle judgement than that. Sometimes it depends what's happening at subject level, what suits you better as a learning environment and what you want out of it.
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    You've got to stop comparing yourself to other people, there will always be people in better positions than us just like there will always be people in worse position than us, that's life and also we don't know what other people go through, they may seem happy on the surface but we all have our problems

    Think about this quote;

    "The reason we struggle with insecurity is because we compare our behind-the-scences with everyone else's highlight reel." ~Steve Furtick
    And I don't understand how you're a failure? You passed your GCSE's, you made it through college and now you're on your way to university...be happy! You are a success, not everyone in the real world is like your average TSR user, many people leave school with no GCSE's

    Also, what's so great about the Russell group? I thought that was more important for post-grad anyhow and besides you can still go to one after you've completed your undergrad

    And lastly, I graduated from a Russell group university and I'm still jobless so hey, maybe it's not all it's cracked up to be

    Chin up!
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    (Original post by Annuhlees)
    I know! I'm would drop anything to go to St. Andrews in a flash and i'm sure most people would who attend RG. I would also prefer to go to UEA than most other universities as its got the perfect course for me.

    I have an unhealthy obsession for old buildings which is my downfall. I love history and pretty buildings :rolleyes: My friend is the exact opposite as she didn't want to go to an old university as she finds them cold and ugly! :L

    That's really good about your dad. I'm a massive believer in fate, so i'm sure that Portsmouth will be the making of me. I might even find my future husband

    My brother is really high up in a company and is in charge of hiring people; he had no idea what RG were and the difference between universities. He knew that the likes of Oxbridge were the best but after that he had no idea. He went to Nottingham Trent as A) he's company paid and he had to go where they sent him and B) It's the best course in the country.

    Honestly, I think it's a personal thing. I just have the image of my Mum down the local shop (I live in a real snobby village) and her saying to a 'friends' mum 'Oh, my youngest is at Portsmouth' and the other mother replying with 'Oh, well, Corinne is at Durham'. I know for a fact that my mum has no idea that Durham is any good but I know for a fact that Corinnes mum will know that she's won that hand. It's like all the girls in the village have been played against each other like pawns. Each mother saying snared comments at each other. Corinnes mum said to me and my mum when I was 10 'Annalise is good at sports but my corinne is an academic, I always wonder why parents bother encouraging their kids on the field...' Just after I had won the charity fun run. It's stupid little things that get to me, it's petty and I shouldn't get caught up in it but I do.
    Hi just wondering wat your brother thought of his time at NTU, as I have offer on same course and not sure whether to go for it as not. Congrats on your offer, reputation of uni counts for nothing in long run.
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    (Original post by Jafooly)
    You've got to stop comparing yourself to other people, there will always be people in better positions than us just like there will always be people in worse position than us, that's life and also we don't know what other people go through, they may seem happy on the surface but we all have our problems

    Think about this quote;



    And I don't understand how you're a failure? You passed your GCSE's, you made it through college and now you're on your way to university...be happy! You are a success, not everyone in the real world is like your average TSR user, many people leave school with no GCSE's

    Also, what's so great about the Russell group? I thought that was more important for post-grad anyhow and besides you can still go to one after you've completed your undergrad

    And lastly, I graduated from a Russell group university and I'm still jobless so hey, maybe it's not all it's cracked up to be

    Chin up!
    ^Probably the best post I've seen on this site. Sums it all up really.
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    (Original post by Noxious-Nikki)
    For what she's been through? It doesn't sound to me like she's been through any more than most people I know.
    Her Dad dying AND going to a really bad school? As I said, a lot of people from my top grammar school went to Portsmouth so if you've gone to a really bad school and got a place at somewhere like Portsmouth as opposed to going to somewhere like London Met or whatever you've done pretty well for yourself IMO. Let alone the grief of a parent passing away which I imagine you can't really understand until you've been through it yourself.

    (Original post by Annuhlees)
    I fell in love with the city of Portsmouth as it's so pretty and the people are really friendly. I like the opportunities of sports/music (I turned down Hull because it didn't have the same opportunities). I feel like I do better when i'm surrounded by people who are better as I feel like i've got to pull myself up to standards as if I feel like i'm doing the best I get lazy and even cocky at times :/ I could of done better at As but I was very cocky! I thought I was going to do better in the exams because I was doing so much better than everyone else and with less effort. My teacher would ask others in the class first then come to me because she knew that I would have the answer or something on the right lines to the answer. I'm looking at doing a foundation year, I wanted to do an foundation in science at UEA (it's not a Russell group but its one of the best for climate change) but my head of year told me not to bother because I wouldn't of been accepted because 'I have no interest to them in science' because I didn't do an A-level in science. However, looking around it seems like these foundations are aimed at students like me! Ugh, he's an idiot! Thank-you for being kind, I hope you'll find some less arrogant people at uni!
    The foundation years are for people who haven't taken science most of the time! I know at Southampton they do a foundation year so if you wanted to do engineering or a science with the 'wrong' A levels you do the science foundation year then start the science/engineering degree. I'd imagine you could find a good few schemes like this, and the grades required are often BBB or something like that. Don't listen to your head of year, it's your degree and your future so go after what you want Portsmouth is really nice though, I go there shopping/to visit friends quite a bit and it's lovely.
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    (Original post by infairverona)
    Her Dad dying AND going to a really bad school? As I said, a lot of people from my top grammar school went to Portsmouth so if you've gone to a really bad school and got a place at somewhere like Portsmouth as opposed to going to somewhere like London Met or whatever you've done pretty well for yourself IMO. Let alone the grief of a parent passing away which I imagine you can't really understand until you've been through it yourself.
    I have been through it myself, my dad also died while I was doing my GCSE's at my bad school. But I don't consider myself to have had a much worse life than many other people.
    Maybe i'm being a bit resentful because our backgrounds sound very similar, but while I am proud to be working full time in a min wage job while I study part time with the OU, she whines about being ashamed to go to a perfectly good university.
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    (Original post by Noxious-Nikki)
    I have been through it myself, my dad also died while I was doing my GCSE's at my bad school. But I don't consider myself to have had a much worse life than many other people.
    Maybe i'm being a bit resentful because our backgrounds sound very similar, but while I am proud to be working full time in a min wage job while I study part time with the OU, she whines about being ashamed to go to a perfectly good university.
    And so you should be proud, you aren't sitting at home doing nothing as many people our age do. You're working full time AND studying which is no mean feat, a degree is pretty much a full time job as it is. But some people dream of going to uni, especially if they are from families where their parents/grandparents didn't go. At least OP knows what she wants and really I think it's sad that people are moaning at her for saying about her poor school background because I think this is a big problem in education currently - people at bad schools aren't being pushed enough for better grades and so don't end up having a chance at the top unis. I know people have said about self-motivation but if you've always been told to aim for a C, why would you know otherwise? The bad schools in my area congratulate a C grade and don't even offer higher maths classes except for the very exceptional, whereas at my school a B was seen as a fail and this put many people off even trying. I don't think someone who is trying to better themselves should be moaned at, she is trying and if she can take a year out to go to a better uni then she should be encouraged. Too many people settle for unis/courses they're not happy with, including myself, and people saying "well Portsmouth is a perfectly good uni you should be happy going there" just isn't good enough if you're not truly happy with your decision, it's 3 years of your life and it's a lot of debt to get into to be miserable/wishing you'd gone somewhere else.
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    (Original post by Annuhlees)
    I feel embarrassed when I tell people that i'm going to Portsmouth in September. I know it's a good university and at the end of the day it is an university so I should feel proud but I really really don't.

    I've always been an average student- I got normal year 6 SATs, middle set in school and C's at GCSE. I went to a rough secondary where being 'clever' was seen as a bad thing. I was surrounded by people who set fire to exercise books and where getting kicked out of lessons was a good thing. I never revised for my GCSEs; I attempted to revise for the lessons I enjoyed but I didn't know about the different exam boards and modules so I revised the wrong things. The first time I read the poems for my English exam was in the exam. I ended up getting an A in short course RE (the only reason I got that was because I was get out of lessons and only had a RE revision guide for the day), 7 C's and 4 D's including Maths, additional science, Geography and English Lit. I was really proud of myself as I got my 5 A-C's where as most of my friends got E's- I was the only person to get a C at GCSE science in my class and I was 3rd set out of 6!

    I ended up going to my local regional college to study Btec media production. I hated it, my course was full of dumb asses with mental problems or stoners (not all of them, but most!). I decided that it wasn't for me as I thought I could do better. I missed science, I wanted to be changed so I resat my GCSEs in Math, Science and additional science. I came out with an B in science, and C's in the other two. It wasn't brilliant as I wasn't able to study sciences at 6th form but it wasn't bad as I just resat and attempted to home educate myself.

    Now, at 6th form i've realised that the reason I done badly before was because of the type of people I surrounded myself with. So I decided to hang out with clever/middle class kids at school. I go to the school orchestra and most of my friends outside of school either are at russell groups or they're going to a russell group.

    I wasn't able to do academic a-levels due to my poor GCSE's even tho my mum explained to my head of 6th form that I had a lot of time off due to my fathers death in year 10 and the bad school. I was allowed to do Music, Geography, Psychology and Media.

    I was already disadvantaged at A-level music as I didn't take GCSE music as my old school didn't offer it as I was the only student who played an instrument (excluding the odd kid who can play a 4 chord song on guitar). Psychology I got a D at AS (I hate psychology so much as I disagree with the majority of it!) I achieved a B in media and I got the highest in the class in coursework and exam. Then I come to Geography, my new passion in life, I got a D at GCSE and just missed out on a B by a couple of marks in As. I was the only student in As to get a grade as everyone else got U's. The others got A/B at GCSE all got U's because they were machined through GCSE. This is where I wonder what would of I got if I went to this school before A-levels for GCSE. I mean, I should feel proud? I didn't put lots of effort into As, some of the other students put way more effort into extra case studies or done more past papers and got a worse grade than me.

    This comes to my final point about me being so ashamed of not going to a Russell Group university as many people within my year seem to be stupid but getting through A-levels/Btec and going to university. Someone in my psychology/media class thought that Glasgow was the capital of Wales and she's going to a Russel group as she's predicted ABB. Another person is going to university who bit into a candle on the joint business/geography trip as he believed it to be edible. Who the hell doesn't know that a candle isn't edible, like a bog standard birthday candle. His argument was that it was on a cake so he thought it would of been edible.

    I have this image of being in my accommodation surrounded by fools. No, i'm not the cleverest person in the world but all the real fake and people lacking common sense seems to be going to university.

    I've kinda gone on a massive ramble and lost the point I was trying to make but yeah.

    When I was younger (about 11-14) my Dad used to take me to Cambridge a few times a year to the music shop. My parents brought me my flute from Ken Stevens so we used to wonder around Cambridge university walking between colleges. I fell in love with the old buildings, the city and everything about it really. I have this image of university being full of intelligent people who know who the prime mister is and understand what is meant by the coalition. An old library full of potential lawyers and doctors. Going to orchestra in the evening and going to the pub afterwards. I know that Portsmouth has an orchestra (one of the reasons I picked that university) but it doesn't have the right feel. I'm so embarrassed that i'm not going to a red brick, I don't have a list of A*'s and my A-levels aren't looking much better either. All I need to get into university is CCDD and i've already got my C in Geography (I just need to get an E in the summer exam) and my coursework/last years grade has made my media exam an B already.

    I have no motivation to go to school or do my exams because A) I'm pretty much into university. B) I don't like my subjects except Geography because I wasn't able to pick ones I wanted. C) Even if I got A's in the summer no decent university will accept me next year for physical Geography because of my choice of A-levels. D) I some times find i'm surrounded by baboons. E) I'm not really fond of my university because I find my course wishy washy.

    I'm going to stop rambling.

    Is anyone else in the same boat?
    Work your backside off and a good university WILL take you in adjustment. Believe me. All this tosh about 'Good subjects' is highly exaggerated. I know one girl who got into Cambridge with a levels in English, Drama and Psychology. I know another girl who got in with Sociology, Psychology and Law. A friend of mine is going to UCL with English, Drama and Music. If you got all As in your final results a Russell Group uni will take you.
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    Went to a bad school. Did well in GCSE's, did really badly at A-Levels (CDcc (yes 2 As's and 2 A's), went to the only university that would accept me for my subject in the UK, graduated with a First, now doing a masters at a Russell and have been accepted for a doctorate at Oxford. Life is what you make of it, effort and passion is often enough.
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    Tbh I think you should be proud of yourself. Considering where you came from, where you're going and where you could have gone is a stark contrast. I mean, imagine if you hadn't decided to get your head down? Portsmouth is a decent school and you haven't really given it a chance yet. I know you're disappointed over not getting into a RG University but it really isn't the be all and end all.
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    I'm going to a RG uni- Manchester, and I feel terrible because I feel like I didn't "earn" my place there. I believe such feelings are natural, no matter what university you go to. Nothing else to do but work on that degree. I saw a show in London once, that very poignantly stated "In a hundred years, there'll be all new people". And in twenty years, this really won't matter all that much. It's certainly not the deciding factor in anyone's life.
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    Sounds like you have the potential to achieve better grades than CCDD. Don't work to the offer, try to get A's! Then I would suggest you either:
    - withdraw your application and reapply to a red brick the year after, earning money in the process
    - prepare to go through Adjustment, the clearing for better than expected grades

    Nothing inherently wrong with Portsmouth but I understand the OP's need to do the best she can. Also if you get on well with the middle classes you'll enjoy a Russell Group immensely.
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    Don't dwell on your past mistakes, that's a way straight down to depression.
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    (Original post by Annuhlees)
    I know! I'm would drop anything to go to St. Andrews in a flash and i'm sure most people would who attend RG. I would also prefer to go to UEA than most other universities as its got the perfect course for me.

    I have an unhealthy obsession for old buildings which is my downfall. I love history and pretty buildings :rolleyes: My friend is the exact opposite as she didn't want to go to an old university as she finds them cold and ugly! :L

    That's really good about your dad. I'm a massive believer in fate, so i'm sure that Portsmouth will be the making of me. I might even find my future husband

    My brother is really high up in a company and is in charge of hiring people; he had no idea what RG were and the difference between universities. He knew that the likes of Oxbridge were the best but after that he had no idea. He went to Nottingham Trent as A) he's company paid and he had to go where they sent him and B) It's the best course in the country.

    Honestly, I think it's a personal thing. I just have the image of my Mum down the local shop (I live in a real snobby village) and her saying to a 'friends' mum 'Oh, my youngest is at Portsmouth' and the other mother replying with 'Oh, well, Corinne is at Durham'. I know for a fact that my mum has no idea that Durham is any good but I know for a fact that Corinnes mum will know that she's won that hand. It's like all the girls in the village have been played against each other like pawns. Each mother saying snared comments at each other. Corinnes mum said to me and my mum when I was 10 'Annalise is good at sports but my corinne is an academic, I always wonder why parents bother encouraging their kids on the field...' Just after I had won the charity fun run. It's stupid little things that get to me, it's petty and I shouldn't get caught up in it but I do.
    I know the feeling. My hometown's very similar. I hate how competitive parents get and how even amongst friends parents will just use their childrens achievements like weapons. I mean, nobody at home really knows what UEA is, so when they ask my mum where I'm studying they're like "Oh, that's nice." It's like we stop being people and we're just the reputations of our universities, which is ridiculous. So I know what you mean. A few of my friends mums were obsessed with knowing what marks I got in exams, me and my friend used to complain about it. :lol: I got the "Well, Amber's academic but if she were competing with my daughter for a job my daughter would win because she'd charm them in the interview" So you really can't win with those types. Try to ignore them, because the thing is that if you go off and make something of yourself then you'll have ultimately won over people who stay in the same town/village their whole life and have nothing to do but judge other people. Don't let them get to you
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    I know the feeling. My hometown's very similar. I hate how competitive parents get and how even amongst friends parents will just use their childrens achievements like weapons. I mean, nobody at home really knows what UEA is, so when they ask my mum where I'm studying they're like "Oh, that's nice." It's like we stop being people and we're just the reputations of our universities, which is ridiculous. So I know what you mean. A few of my friends mums were obsessed with knowing what marks I got in exams, me and my friend used to complain about it. :lol: I got the "Well, Amber's academic but if she were competing with my daughter for a job my daughter would win because she'd charm them in the interview" So you really can't win with those types. Try to ignore them, because the thing is that if you go off and make something of yourself then you'll have ultimately won over people who stay in the same town/village their whole life and have nothing to do but judge other people. Don't let them get to you
    I'm glad that i'm not the only one feeling this way. Going to university is a big deal and something that we should feel very proud of but someone has to knock us down. I like the way you put 'parents will just use their childrens achievements like weapons' as that's how I feel. Sometimes I think my Mum forgets that i'm just a teenager :/
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    (Original post by Annuhlees)
    I'm glad that i'm not the only one feeling this way. Going to university is a big deal and something that we should feel very proud of but someone has to knock us down. I like the way you put 'parents will just use their childrens achievements like weapons' as that's how I feel. Sometimes I think my Mum forgets that i'm just a teenager :/
    They do though! My mum doesn't because she thinks it's ridiculous but several of my friends mums are like that. And peoples dad's actually, from the sounds of it. I think my dad sometimes wishes I'd gone to Bath because it's got more prestige, even though it's in the 1994 group the same as UEA. :lol: But only a little bit. So yeah, I hope you have a brilliant time at university and don't give up, work hard and show all those idiots in your hometown that the reputation of your uni means nothing. Apart from Oxbridge, but even that's not such a big deal. My godmother's husband went to Oxford and absolutely hated it. Try not to let daft parents opinions get to you Yeah, I think people do forget that at times.
 
 
 
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