Hunting:Your views?

They do not have the ability to morally reason - we do. It would be wrong for those animals to kill others if they were aware of the moral consequences and they were able to survive without taking them.

Boxing is acceptable because both participants can consent. That's why it's wrong to watch one person attack another for entertainment without their one party's knowledge, but it is OK to watch a boxing match.

Alright, I don't think I can debate this anymore. We have no framework for it - you're evidently some kind of moral nihilist that doesn't care about causing suffering, or if you do it's only for selfish reasons like the preservation of your own kind.

We fundamentally disagree, and I don't fancy another debate about attempting to prove the existence of morality.

If you read what I said properly, I didn't say we ARE a society that does. I said that a society which values life is one that puts values before personal satisfaction.

Clearly society as a construct differs from country to country, depending on the system of laws in place and their enforcement, as well as cultural influences, demographic distributions, environmental surroundings (space available), resources, politics etc etc.

But, I think that is what society should aim towards though, valuing life before personal satisfaction. I think we should be constantly aiming to improve human and animal rights.

(Humans are animals btw.)

I have no problem with hunting because you need the meat or hunting to cull populations but shooting, say, an elephant just to feel like a big man is something I despise.

I don't buy the cruelty argument. Being shot (not mauled by another animal, mind) is probably the best thing that could happen to a wild animal. 99% of them will be eaten alive, starved or die of cold, and the rest are probably roadkill.

The argument is that we as humans are "Smarter" therefore we should be able to given our greater intellect be of a standard where we cause zero suffering.

And that animals are just stupid animals, limited to there biological abilities and thus they just do the best with what they can.

It's a silly argument either-way.

As the title states, so is the question!

I myself have been a sport hunter for a long time, I started out hunting foul and small game with my Dad when I was younger, but as I grew older I moved on to progressively larger game and started Bow Hunting instead. I would go over to my Brother in Laws in the States and hunt Big Game such as Deer, Elk, Proghorn, Moose Bear etc(tried Mountain Lion, but the things are tricky) , and even to Africa to hunt Oryx.


All I can is that I absolutely love it, as many other hunters will know it's the thrill of the stalk and the satisfaction of the kill that makes it worth while.

I hear a lot of winging and crying from those in the anti-hunting brigade, and I usually do my best to keep them happy, I have a habit of whenever able utilizing all the meat and the pelts(as most Hunters do really..why waste good meat and pelts you can sell?)

Sadly though over the past few years due to University Commitments, getting married, putting money away for essentially starting up a decent life and family, I haven't had the chance to get away but ive been thinking of sometime in the near future getting my Bow out of it's case, get my aim back in order and maybe getting back into the hobby, which made me think?

What does TSR think of Hunting, Thrilling Blood Sport, or Barbaric Animal Cruelty?

I obviously don't have a problem with it, it's a fantastic and rewarding pastime.

Myself Below

As the title states, so is the question!

I myself have been a sport hunter for a long time, I started out hunting foul and small game with my Dad when I was younger, but as I grew older I moved on to progressively larger game and started Bow Hunting instead. I would go over to my Brother in Laws in the States and hunt Big Game such as Deer, Elk, Proghorn, Moose Bear etc(tried Mountain Lion, but the things are tricky) , and even to Africa to hunt Oryx.


All I can is that I absolutely love it, as many other hunters will know it's the thrill of the stalk and the satisfaction of the kill that makes it worth while.

I hear a lot of winging and crying from those in the anti-hunting brigade, and I usually do my best to keep them happy, I have a habit of whenever able utilizing all the meat and the pelts(as most Hunters do really..why waste good meat and pelts you can sell?)

Sadly though over the past few years due to University Commitments, getting married, putting money away for essentially starting up a decent life and family, I haven't had the chance to get away but ive been thinking of sometime in the near future getting my Bow out of it's case, get my aim back in order and maybe getting back into the hobby, which made me think?

What does TSR think of Hunting, Thrilling Blood Sport, or Barbaric Animal Cruelty?

I obviously don't have a problem with it, it's a fantastic and rewarding pastime.

Myself Below

How does the intellectual superiority of humans over animals pertain to my point that being shot is possibly the most humane way an animal can go? Not sure I understand your point

so how would you become a hunter? like were would you start??

Hunting is great, I would do it too if I could afford it. Mainly the ones where hunters are called in to control or eliminate the introduced species destroying the ecosystem. Like wild boars in the States and stuff.

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As the title states, so is the question!

I myself have been a sport hunter for a long time, I started out hunting foul and small game with my Dad when I was younger, but as I grew older I moved on to progressively larger game and started Bow Hunting instead. I would go over to my Brother in Laws in the States and hunt Big Game such as Deer, Elk, Proghorn, Moose Bear etc(tried Mountain Lion, but the things are tricky) , and even to Africa to hunt Oryx.


All I can is that I absolutely love it, as many other hunters will know it's the thrill of the stalk and the satisfaction of the kill that makes it worth while.

I hear a lot of winging and crying from those in the anti-hunting brigade, and I usually do my best to keep them happy, I have a habit of whenever able utilizing all the meat and the pelts(as most Hunters do really..why waste good meat and pelts you can sell?)

Sadly though over the past few years due to University Commitments, getting married, putting money away for essentially starting up a decent life and family, I haven't had the chance to get away but ive been thinking of sometime in the near future getting my Bow out of it's case, get my aim back in order and maybe getting back into the hobby, which made me think?

What does TSR think of Hunting, Thrilling Blood Sport, or Barbaric Animal Cruelty?

I obviously don't have a problem with it, it's a fantastic and rewarding pastime.

Myself Below

I think it's barbaric and I don't understand how anyone could consider ruthlessly killing living creatures a 'fantastic and rewarding pastime'.

These animals are terrified and most likely in pain when they die, and furthermore these are unnecessary deaths; you don't NEED anything from them (not that I think needing something from them necessarily justifies killing them anyway).

How you, and any other hunters out there, can kill living creatures for your own enjoyment and attempt to defend your position is beyond my realm of comprehension. I find it truly shocking that in the Western world in the 21st century such pursuits continue to exist.

I think it's barbaric and I don't understand how anyone could consider ruthlessly killing living creatures a 'fantastic and rewarding pastime'.

These animals are terrified and most likely in pain when they die, and furthermore these are unnecessary deaths; you don't NEED anything from them (not that I think needing something from them necessarily justifies killing them anyway).

How you, and any other hunters out there, can kill living creatures for your own enjoyment and attempt to defend your position is beyond my realm of comprehension. I find it truly shocking that in the Western world in the 21st century such pursuits continue to exist.

I don't understand it either...it's not my point.

Hence why I enjoy shooting and killing animals.

I think it's barbaric and I don't understand how anyone could consider ruthlessly killing living creatures a 'fantastic and rewarding pastime'.

These animals are terrified and most likely in pain when they die, and furthermore these are unnecessary deaths; you don't NEED anything from them (not that I think needing something from them necessarily justifies killing them anyway).

How you, and any other hunters out there, can kill living creatures for your own enjoyment and attempt to defend your position is beyond my realm of comprehension. I find it truly shocking that in the Western world in the 21st century such pursuits continue to exist.