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    (Original post by hslt)
    If they don't have beds, they can't admit you from A&E. They were told to go to A&E because that is how GPs refer you - through A&E, having contacted the department beforehand with your details.

    If you go saying you have excrutiating pain you will a) get the wrong diagnosis, b) get unnecessary tests c) waste time and money d) get in the way of somebody else e) get unnecessary medication f) get a quick scan looking for different things, from a non-specialist, ruling out anything immediately life-threatening, then re-referred to your GP for them to refer you on again

    Pointless, dangerous, waste of time. Don't do it, and don't lie about symptoms.
    They admitted her from A&E. She had an allergic reaction to hair dye and her face was very swollen, she went to her Doctor, then the hospital, who said they wanted to put her on a drip but said they had no beds. The Doctors told her to stand outside the hospital and call an ambulance. That was coming from the medical professionals themselves

    The OP has continually highlighted her pain and the inconvenience it was causing, also pointing out that her GP's advice wasn't helpful. She also points out, "my course leader actually wanted to call me an ambulance the other day when I got the extreme pain because I actually had to sit like a statue because the pain was so bad," so don't act so inconsiderate towards someone in genuine discomfort! It's clear she's in crippling pain.

    My logic: it's unreasonable for the OP to have such a long waiting time as this is causing her very considerable anxiety, and quite rightly so, because she has worrying symptoms! She is also right with the point she makes about ovarian cancer.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Hi, unless it's changed dramtically in the last few years the centre in Garston is big but it isn't a hospital.

    You may find that the waiting times are less if you ask to be referred to a gyne consultant (I suspect they will refer you to Liverpool Womens) which can then refer you for the scans you need.

    My waiting times at the Womens was relatively quick. A couple of weeks to see the consultant, 2-3 weeks for a scan and again 2-3 weeks for the follow up appointment. Also, remember the consultant will be used to seeing all sorts of different conditions and are generally specialists so will probably know more about these sorts of conditions then the GP.

    If your experience is anything like mine, you will find that even if you wait a couple of months, a GP can't tell you anything from an ultrasound and will probably refer you for a gyne appointment anyway after you get your results through the GP anyway.

    These sorts of things need sorting ASAP as, like you said it could be anything but also it will likely take a long time to sort out. I have been suffering from similar problems as described for years, and it still isn't sorted. So, as soon as you start the process the better.
    Good to hear from someone in the area, thanks for your reply
    When I had my GP appointment, he did say Liverpool Womens hospital, and I'm sure that was the name on the fax he gave to the admin staff to send over, so I was a bit surprised when I got a letter from smithdown ultrasound department. As suggested by others on here, I'm going to go back to my GP within the next couple of weeks if my pains continue, and hopefully the GP will be able to make a better arrangement, as he did seem to think himself that I would get an ultrasound in 2-3 weeks.
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    (Original post by AspiringMedic8)
    They admitted her from A&E. She had an allergic reaction to hair dye and her face was very swollen, she went to her Doctor, then the hospital, who said they wanted to put her on a drip but said they had no beds. The Doctors told her to stand outside the hospital and call an ambulance. That was coming from the medical professionals themselves

    The OP has continually highlighted her pain and the inconvenience it was causing, also pointing out that her GP's advice wasn't helpful. She also points out, "my course leader actually wanted to call me an ambulance the other day when I got the extreme pain because I actually had to sit like a statue because the pain was so bad," so don't act so inconsiderate towards someone in genuine discomfort! It's clear she's in crippling pain.

    My logic: it's unreasonable for the OP to have such a long waiting time as this is causing her very considerable anxiety, and quite rightly so, because she has worrying symptoms! She is also right with the point she makes about ovarian cancer.
    There have been points when I've been in excruciating pain, the incident on my course being the worst, couldn't even slightly reposition myself because I was in agony. If something like that happens again I would consider going to A&E (if I could move there ) because the pain got very acute and was pretty scary - I would have thought I had appendicitis, only I knew that's on the right side, whereas my pain was on the left.

    However the rest of the time, whilst the pain is bad, I definitely wouldn't consider going to A&E for it, due to the reasons stated such as getting in the way of someone in A&E who was actually experiencing acute pain, and knowing that it's not an appropriate reason to go to A&E.

    Thanks for your concern though, I do agree the waiting times seem unreasonable for the level of pain I'm in, hopefully when I revisit my GP he will be able to sort something out.
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    (Original post by AspiringMedic8)
    They admitted her from A&E. She had an allergic reaction to hair dye and her face was very swollen, she went to her Doctor, then the hospital, who said they wanted to put her on a drip but said they had no beds. The Doctors told her to stand outside the hospital and call an ambulance. That was coming from the medical professionals themselves

    The OP has continually highlighted her pain and the inconvenience it was causing, also pointing out that her GP's advice wasn't helpful. She also points out, "my course leader actually wanted to call me an ambulance the other day when I got the extreme pain because I actually had to sit like a statue because the pain was so bad," so don't act so inconsiderate towards someone in genuine discomfort! It's clear she's in crippling pain.

    My logic: it's unreasonable for the OP to have such a long waiting time as this is causing her very considerable anxiety, and quite rightly so, because she has worrying symptoms! She is also right with the point she makes about ovarian cancer.
    And I'm telling you not to tell people to go and lie to doctors in A&E, whats so inconsiderate about that? And also not to go for reasons that are inappropriate.

    She will not get the scans/tests she needs at AE - like I said to her she needs to go back to her GP (who was helpful, but is currently completely unaware that it is 3 months, not 3 weeks), not to AE, it is not an emergency like your friend who was having an allergic reaction. 'Crippling pain' or not.

    And if she is in crippling pain AE will sort her for a very short time (normally 2 or 3 days worth of drugs), her GP would give her a solution for a month - get an emergency appointment there instead.
    Obviously, if the pain becomes that bad that shes worried (like the time you mentioned) she should go to AE, BUT not for the reasons that you said. They will be able to immediately rule out worrying things, but they will ask her GP to do exactly as her GP has.
    Your logic will not get her a quicker diagnosis, it will kill someone having a heart attack who doesn't see a doctor because shes come in claiming extreme agony and the doctors all thing shes got an ectopic pregnancy or something equally life-threatening.

    And an ambulance gets you a bed in A&E, when they have a bed (never heard of the 'horror stories' of people sitting in ambulances for hours because A&E is full) not in the hospital. After they have a bed in A&E then the route remains absolutely identical for anyone who needs a bed in hospital acutely --> A&E, then MAU, then a ward if required. If they didn't have room they may have been doing it because ambulances have the equipment to put you on a drip.

    EDIT: as an 'aspiring medic' I highly recommend you don't mention suggesting people exaggerate to doctors in your interviews, and if you get in you will soon personally see just how difficult and dangerous and expensive 'little' lies like that can be.
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    Go to your GP for more effective pain management in the meantime. A&E is a waste of your time, but more importantly vital resources. If your doctor suspects ovarian cysts and your condition is not immediately threatening you should by no means be going to A&E. If it's just the pain that is currently a concern, your GP should be able to give you better analgesia to help manage it until your appointment.
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    (Original post by MattKneale)
    Go to your GP for more effective pain management in the meantime. A&E is a waste of your time, but more importantly vital resources. If your doctor suspects ovarian cysts and your condition is not immediately threatening you should by no means be going to A&E. If it's just the pain that is currently a concern, your GP should be able to give you better analgesia to help manage it until your appointment.
    OP here, I have already stated that I'm not going to go to A&E and never had intention of doing so, that I'm going back to my GP if the pain persists, and that I am aware that A&E is not an appropriate place to go and that I know it will waste resources.
    Just wanted to put that out there as a few people have warned me not to go to A&E when I never expressed any intention of going there in the first place, I was just asking if a 3 month wait is unusual and how to cope with the pain in the mean time, and expressing my concern that health conditions could get considerably worse in the space of 3 months.
    Thanks to everyone who has replied though, I will be revisiting my GP within the next couple of weeks if the pain continues/gets worse.
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    OP here, I have already stated that I'm not going to go to A&E and never had intention of doing so, that I'm going back to my GP if the pain persists, and that I am aware that A&E is not an appropriate place to go and that I know it will waste resources.
    Just wanted to put that out there as a few people have warned me not to go to A&E when I never expressed any intention of going there in the first place, I was just asking if a 3 month wait is unusual and how to cope with the pain in the mean time, and expressing my concern that health conditions could get considerably worse in the space of 3 months.
    Thanks to everyone who has replied though, I will be revisiting my GP within the next couple of weeks if the pain continues/gets worse.
    I'm aware of that, I'm just discrediting those who said you should go.

    The best way to manage the pain is to go back to your GP for guidance in that regard.

    Good luck
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    (Original post by hslt)
    And I'm telling you not to tell people to go and lie to doctors in A&E, whats so inconsiderate about that? And also not to go for reasons that are inappropriate.

    She will not get the scans/tests she needs at AE - like I said to her she needs to go back to her GP (who was helpful, but is currently completely unaware that it is 3 months, not 3 weeks), not to AE, it is not an emergency like your friend who was having an allergic reaction. 'Crippling pain' or not.

    And if she is in crippling pain AE will sort her for a very short time (normally 2 or 3 days worth of drugs), her GP would give her a solution for a month - get an emergency appointment there instead.
    Obviously, if the pain becomes that bad that shes worried (like the time you mentioned) she should go to AE, BUT not for the reasons that you said. They will be able to immediately rule out worrying things, but they will ask her GP to do exactly as her GP has.
    Your logic will not get her a quicker diagnosis, it will kill someone having a heart attack who doesn't see a doctor because shes come in claiming extreme agony and the doctors all thing shes got an ectopic pregnancy or something equally life-threatening.

    And an ambulance gets you a bed in A&E, when they have a bed (never heard of the 'horror stories' of people sitting in ambulances for hours because A&E is full) not in the hospital. After they have a bed in A&E then the route remains absolutely identical for anyone who needs a bed in hospital acutely --> A&E, then MAU, then a ward if required. If they didn't have room they may have been doing it because ambulances have the equipment to put you on a drip.

    EDIT: as an 'aspiring medic' I highly recommend you don't mention suggesting people exaggerate to doctors in your interviews, and if you get in you will soon personally see just how difficult and dangerous and expensive 'little' lies like that can be.
    OP again, don't worry I have no intention of lying or exaggerating my pain, or of going to A&E for inappropriate reasons. I have a lot of friends and family working in the NHS and I did a couple of years of nursing training so I've had it instilled in me about which place is appropriate to go. I'm going to go back to my GP within the next couple of weeks if my pain continues/gets more severe and see if he can help me further.
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    (Original post by CAT2407med)
    If you were my daughter I would be down to see the GP in a flash and demanding they find somewhere to get the ultrasound done ASAP !! Do not take this lightly - you could have a serious infection but the only way to know is to get the correct diagnosis/treatment as soon as possible. If left too long you might find that whatever treatment you might need is more long-term or more invasive. PLEASE do not delay in getting back to your GP. Good Luck!
    A serious infection that has been going on for 2 months..?
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    Hey I had an ultrasound last year through the nhs to check for cysts on my ovaries because I had all the symptoms of pcos, and cysts where found. I also like you, had to wait a very long time to have a test done (this time a cortisol test) I had to ask about 6 different doctors if I could have the test done because I was having other symptoms that I felt where not pcos related. None of them agreed, but finally one doctor agreed to refer me to an endocrinologist, and I was told I was get a refferel letter in the post, it took about a month before it came, and then I phoned them up, and they said I would have to wait 3 months before I could get my appointment. Then I went to the appointment, and was told by the doctor the condition I wanted to be tested for (cushings) was far too rare to bother to be tested for (like 2 million people have it in the uk alone, and a huge amount of people are refused testing because of the same line of it being 'too rare') but I pestered and he finally agreed. He gave me a form, but then I ended up losing the form for it, then they told me when I came back with a urine sample 'we can't analyse this without a form. speak to the doctor you saw about it' I told them I don't know his number, they looked him up, he didn't have a contact number so I had to phone his PA. His Pa was on holiday, so it went to her answering machine for about 2 months, everyday. Then I finally got into contact with her, and she told me she would ask him. Then she phoned me back and said he had said he never agreed to letting me have a cortisol test (which was a LIE!!) I said this is not true, and that I was given a form. So she asked him again, and then I was told my form was in the post. It took another month before it arrived. But this time it was for a blood test (very innacurate, only diagnoses cushing's correctly in like 65% of cases) when before it had been for a urine test. So i finally went to the doctor to get the blood test done in January (I had first asked my gp about whether I could have a test back in march 2012) so I waited, then waited to get the results in the post. I waited a month, still no results. I emailed them, then they said they would look into it. Two weeks passed and no reply. So I emailed them again, and no reply again. So I phoned up the Pa. She said they couldn't give me the results, because I had failed to attend an appointment a week ago (I had asked for the results about a month ago) which is bizarre, because usually they will always post me blood test results in summary, eg, your blood sugar was fine but your cholestoral was a little on the high side. But this time, because I didn't go to one appointment (I had a uni open day) she said I couldn't have the results as they where supposed to be discussed during my appointment. (I mean they're my results, don't I have a right to know them?!) well anyway, she said she would ask the doctor again and then email me. So I waited another week, then she emailed me saying that they where 'very sorry' and that my results would be coming in the post now. So they came the following week. All that waiting just for a SIMPLE cortisol test result!!! I mean seriiously :rolleyes:

    If I where you, I'd go back to your gp, tell them you are in a huge amount of pain, and that you are really worried. Tell them you would like to have your ultrasound done at a nearer time. Go to as many gp's as you need to. It's your health not theirs. It seems like sometimes, there is a bit of an nhs culture where they do not want to spend money on people unless they feel it is extremely, extremely necessary Some doctors are absoloutely brilliant, but some will almost belittle you when you tell them you feel something is wrong, and treat you like a hypochondriac. It is incredibly frustrating and upsetting to be honest. I would never, ever have said any of this two years ago, I had so much respect for all aspects of the nhs and all it's staff. And I still do, for the most part, but I can see that there can be major flaws when it comes to diagnosing patients. Don't ever let a doctor tell you that you are being 'paranoid' or make you feel like a hypochondriac, when you know that is not the case. You know your own body and health better than anyone. Good luck and I hope I helped.
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    This is the trouble with the NHS, if you want to be seen within a reasonable time span then you need to go private, it sucks but that seems to be how it is these days. Bupa essentials is only 20 quid a month
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    Hi. Am experiencing the same symtoms.
    Did you get a diagnosis of what was causing the pain?
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    I think you should go to A&E next time you're in pain. That's what A&E is there for. You're not taking services away from other people in A&E, you will put on the waiting list with them all. You will probably be there a while but that's how they make it fair. Your attitude to it all sounds noble and I get where you're coming from but ultimately this is your fertility you're waiting around for...you shouldn't be afraid of being pushy, especially given what your doctor has said to you!
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    I have been having problems with pelvic pain on my right side for approx 6 months. Last week the pain got so bad my partner had to take me to A+E. My pain was in my lower right side, top of my thigh and in my lower back. It would initially come and go but when I did get pain it was so bad I was shaking and could not find a comfortable position that would ease it.
    When I arrived at A+E my symptoms were treated very seriously. I was given intravenous morphine and was sent to xray to check for kidney stones. I was then admitted for 2 days. First a doctor ruled out appendicitis. I had an ultrasound, CT scan and blood tests carried out. The results showed that I had 2 large cysts both measured together 11cm x 9cm x 6cm on my right ovary. I was given pain meds and have a meeting to discuss surgery next week.
    Your symptoms sound very similar to mine, please get back onto your GP before the pain gets any worse. Good luck. X
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    Hi I had postmenopausal bleeding, I saw my gp in 2 days I had a scan
 
 
 
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