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    (Original post by danny111)
    I don't know, I like it better when there is a bit of hair left. And I don't really expect anything, maybe because she does it on her own anyway. But I think if she would not do anything, I would ask her to at least trim a little.
    Haha I understand that! I don't think anybody does the "au naturale" look :L I do actually bother to do something with it just not complete "Brazilian" look
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    Very interesting topic to read though really. Good question! I think it comes down to media and porn. Say hypothetically, women never shaved. You were born and never saw shaved women, we were all natural. Surely you would just naturally accept that and wouldn't be put off by it. I can't fathom why a man would think otherwise if they had never seen a shaved woman before. But yeah, the true origins confuse me.

    And men saying that body hair isn't feminine too...of course it is, why else would we grow it?!

    I had never shaved completely down below, only partly, until I did to see what my bf thought. Didn't like the feel of it at all. Like other girls on this thread, I don't like feeling pre-pubescent. Feels strange :dontknow: Plus I get an awful rash that looks worse than hair imo. Bf preferred shaven, of course. I don't think he really cares though.

    Body hair coming 'back into fashion' would be great. I hate shaving. Why should I? In fact, I hardly do anyway, but knowing that it had become accepted for it not to, would be good.
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    Well this youthfulness is between the ages of 0-12.
    So possibly not attractive to men (excluding men with pedophilic tenancies)
    It is attractive to men, and I don't think that it makes all men paedophiles. I don't know the reason why, I'm not a psychologist but my guess would be that biologically the partner should be youthful (for obvious reasons) and thus all signs of youth appeal to mean - logical or not.

    This isn't a point you can argue and make men change since it's part of the subconscious and nothing that can be controlled. Wouldn't it be lovely if I could find ugly women attractive by choice, I would have such an easy time!
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    (Original post by CaptainDudeson)
    Look 'LittleMissNoface' if that's even your real name, which I highly doubt, cats are nice to stroke but they are super furry. A lady is supposed to be smooth to the touch. Hair removal cream or laser hair removal should sort things out.
    haha glad you figured that one out

    why is a lady suppose to be smooth to the touch?

    Laser hair removal is waaaay beyond anything I can afford.
    cream stuff is bad if you have sensitive skin... like me :/

    I just completely know where this is going.
    We will never date

    Maybe you could shave your partners for them? I think they would find it sweet
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    I'm not trying to argue I just genuinely don't understand it. Yes I understand that but shouldn't guys be aware that your preference is extremely uncomfortable and occasionally painful? Not sure why guys would want their girlfriends to go through that for the sake of a preference Also up to know the general consensus from the guys has been to keep everything in check down there but not shave off completely. I think pornography has done a lot of damage on this front.

    Obviously I'm not saying you're wrong and should change if that's what you prefer then that's up to you and if you find a girlfriend who is willing to do that-even better. I and a lot of girls just don't want to yet we're made to feel insecure/unattractive freaks
    I think real the issue is that some girls believe that men are pressuring them to look/act in a certain way. This is probably true, but it cuts both ways of course. Men hone their image to make themselves attractive to potential partners (go to the gym which can be painful, watch what we eat and increasingly resort to plastic surgery), it's just that we wouldn't blame the media or female pressure for our decisions. Girls don;t have to anything they don't want to, but if they want partners a degree of compromise may be in order.
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    It's one of the most god awful experiences of my life, I've cut myself before. How you felt is how girls feel when we do it. Waxing is agony and can cause some serious damage if it's not done properly, I'm talking scaring here. And ingrown hairs are beyond painful to remove. Hair removal cream removes the whole painful whilst getting rid of it aspect but the regrowth is still a nightmare. I just prefer to keep it all neat and tidy then remove it all, I do the bikini line because that's itcy in underware if you don't plus I'm not a fam of "thighbrows"
    Fair enough. How about laser?
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    (Original post by Sammydemon)
    It is attractive to men, and I don't think that it makes all men paedophiles. I don't know the reason why, I'm not a psychologist but my guess would be that biologically the partner should be youthful (for obvious reasons) and thus all signs of youth appeal to mean - logical or not.

    This isn't a point you can argue and make men change since it's part of the subconscious and nothing that can be controlled. Wouldn't it be lovely if I could find ugly women attractive by choice, I would have such an easy time!
    Well if I am right most children between the ages of 0-12 are not fertile so biologically it would be silly.

    Well some previous posts have answered my original question quite well, and I think the most interesting point made is it goes in and out of fashion for a reason. it is not biological and is just dependent on many other factors.
    So many cultures have had full body shaven for men and women and that was attractive.
    Other times for religious reasons it is attractive to have a lot of hair.
    Even lots of hair had once shown good health and that the person was healthy for 'mating'.

    Current day perhaps due to culture this is the norm.
    But it will change, it will always change.

    It is just a pain as for some reason currently only seen attractive for women.

    However I must say the boys/men I know all love hairy women.
    Different people, different places.
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    I think real the issue is that some girls believe that men are pressuring them to look/act in a certain way. This is probably true, but it cuts both ways of course. Men hone their image to make themselves attractive to potential partners (go to the gym which can be painful, watch what we eat and increasingly resort to plastic surgery), it's just that we wouldn't blame the media or female pressure for our decisions. Girls don;t have to anything they don't want to, but if they want partners a degree of compromise may be in order.
    I agree there but I do think that the media is particularly harsh on the way women look, you don't hear about many/any 5 year old boys on diets. Which is the ages now some girls are starting to diet or comment on their apperance. Or you don't get best and worst dressed for men or certainly none that I've seen or successful females who get a whole analysis for the way they look it just doesn't seem to happen to men as often. I think there is more pressure than ever on men to look and dress a certain way and I don't agree with that either. I agree that compromise is needed from both people within a relationship, but to the extent where something is causing physical pain and suffering just so your a little bit more pleasing to look at? It just doesn't seem right to me.
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    haha glad you figured that one out

    why is a lady suppose to be smooth to the touch?

    Laser hair removal is waaaay beyond anything I can afford.
    cream stuff is bad if you have sensitive skin... like me :/

    I just completely know where this is going.
    We will never date

    Maybe you could shave your partners for them? I think they would find it sweet
    I'll shave you if you want.
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    (Original post by CaptainDudeson)
    Fair enough. How about laser?
    Er probably the more preferable but if you have darker skin you can't have it done, plus it grows back patchy (ew) it's really expensive and I don't relish the idea of displaying my "private parts" to a complete stranger. Plus you still have the regrowth pain that's what I can't get over how horrendous it is when it's growing back if not I wouldn't mind as much.
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    (Original post by CaptainDudeson)
    I'll shave you if you want.
    Better get out the hacksaw...

    Actually I would really enjoy placing you in a bath of hair removal cream and leave you in that extra 2 minutes

    Niiiiiiice and smooth - for like a day

    Then tomorrow we do it all again.
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    Haven't looked through this thread to see if this has already been cleared up but check out number 3# on the list. http://www.cracked.com/article_20324...campaigns.html
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    Well if I am right most children between the ages of 0-12 are not fertile so biologically it would be silly

    Well some previous posts have answered my original question quite well, and I think the most interesting point made is it goes in and out of fashion for a reason. it is not biological and is just dependent on many other factors.
    So many cultures have had full body shaven for men and women and that was attractive.
    Other times for religious reasons it is attractive to have a lot of hair.
    Even lots of hair had once shown good health and that the person was healthy for 'mating'.

    Current day perhaps due to culture this is the norm.
    But it will change, it will always change.

    It is just a pain as for some reason currently only seen attractive for women.

    However I must say the boys/men I know all love hairy women.
    Different people, different places.
    Perhaps you're right. Like I said, I don't know.

    Men also have an image to live up to with a lot of girls - more predominantly the way we behave rather than the way we look, which is often more difficult to change.

    So if you don't want to change the way you look - don't do it!

    I'm sure there are aspects of a man's appearance that you are partial to. Muscularity? A certain hair style? A certain height, dress sense or mannerism?
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    Er probably the more preferable but if you have darker skin you can't have it done, plus it grows back patchy (ew) it's really expensive and I don't relish the idea of displaying my "private parts" to a complete stranger. Plus you still have the regrowth pain that's what I can't get over how horrendous it is when it's growing back if not I wouldn't mind as much.
    Displaying your privates to complete strangers isn't too bad, I do it all the time.
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    (Original post by LittleMissNoface)
    Better get out the hacksaw...

    Actually I would really enjoy placing you in a bath of hair removal cream and leave you in that extra 2 minutes

    Niiiiiiice and smooth - for like a day

    Then tomorrow we do it all again.
    Sounds like a good time all round to me.
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    (Original post by Sammydemon)
    It is attractive to men, and I don't think that it makes all men paedophiles. I don't know the reason why, I'm not a psychologist but my guess would be that biologically the partner should be youthful (for obvious reasons) and thus all signs of youth appeal to mean - logical or not.

    This isn't a point you can argue and make men change since it's part of the subconscious and nothing that can be controlled. Wouldn't it be lovely if I could find ugly women attractive by choice, I would have such an easy time!
    If you're going with the argument about youthfulness actually pubic hair signifies puberty and therefore fertility so a potential partner. So subconsiously they wouldn't be attracted to a female without pubic hair because it's unlikely they will become pregnant since they look like they haven't entered puberty yet. I think the liking hairless thing is more the way what people experience as they grown up.
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    (Original post by victoriajackson)
    I agree there but I do think that the media is particularly harsh on the way women look, you don't hear about many/any 5 year old boys on diets. Which is the ages now some girls are starting to diet or comment on their apperance. Or you don't get best and worst dressed for men or certainly none that I've seen or successful females who get a whole analysis for the way they look it just doesn't seem to happen to men as often. I think there is more pressure than ever on men to look and dress a certain way and I don't agree with that either. I agree that compromise is needed from both people within a relationship, but to the extent where something is causing physical pain and suffering just so your a little bit more pleasing to look at? It just doesn't seem right to me.
    Personally I quite like it when women are prepared to risk a bit of physical pain in order to look good, it shows they care. Which to me is a sexy quality. I cannot stand nonchalance!
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    (Original post by CaptainDudeson)
    Displaying your privates to complete strangers isn't too bad, I do it all the time.
    Hahaha I think I'll pass, carry on with what I'm doing, generally men are saying that's what they prefer
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    (Original post by chefdave)
    Personally I quite like it when women are prepared to risk a bit of physical pain in order to look good, it shows they care. Which to me is a sexy quality. I cannot stand nonchalance!
    Yeah but there's a massive difference between the pain of say plucking eyebrows, the odd shaving cut, straightner/curler burn and muscle burn from the gym and that. Seriously I've tried it all off a few times and it's horrible experience from start to when it grows back, its torture having an itch you can't scratch! Waxing bikini area is bad enough but I can cope with that because that's beneficial in the long run it's just too sensitive to do all over though No I can't stand it when people can't be bothered with themselves not saying you have to look perfect all the time but a little bit of effort is nice, I've noticed people that can't be bothered with themselves generally can't be bothered putting effort into anything else as well.

    I don't know who negged you or why, perhaps it was the whole pain thing interpreted wrong.
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    This is interesting. I shave everything every day, or every other day. But I don't see it as something that I am expected to do, just something I prefer to do because it feels nicer for me. I can't stand hair on me ahaha. Men have told me they prefer it like that. I prefer it like that. So I'll only start growing it out when I become too old to reach my legs to shave them :lol:
 
 
 
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