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    First time poster here, any help would be ace. I am 30 year old, already got a degree and post grad diploma (History, then Political Communications) but have always wanted to do my PGCE. I have bitten the bullet and decided after a pay rise to start saving hard, with the aim to go back and do it in Sept 2014. I am aiming to save 5,000 myself and believe on the current calculations I am due to get circa 9k in various help (extra student loan, I am a parent of 3 children etc) and I am studying in Wales. Does this seem like a sensible amount to assume I will get? (I have used the current student finance wales calculator and our household income the year I go to uni is my wife's 5k a year).
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    For some reason it's not letting me press return, so my next question is about experience. I am going to try to do 15 days experience in a secondary History environment - is this generally enough? Obviously how I refer to the experience in my interview and tests is crucial, but I just thought I would ask. I am thinking of applying for PGCE Secondary History (as I have a degree in the subject) and PGCE PE (As I fitness and sports fanatic), but truthfully I am going to do all my experience in history - is it even worth bothering applying for PE? I was doing it in case as a back up or as a genuine choice if I got accepted for both, does it show a lack of commitment to one by applying for both?
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    Sorry with the posts, I am resitting my GCSE maths as I have to get a C and is a requirement for history. Is it worth doing my GCSE Science too? (I have D in chemistry, biology and Physics). It isn't a requirement per se, but I think it's worth doing anyway? Lastly, is there anything else worth doing to aid my application? I have plenty of time to get everything absolutely spot on for my application, so prefer to go work on it now and get it ready.
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    Hello,

    The PGCE History is very competitive so make sure your school experiences are in two different schools and perhpas different environments i.e. an inner city school and a 'Outstanding' school. Make the most of your time in the classroom and definately observe other classes in the humanities department.

    With regards the finances, there is the Student loan, the bursary for your specialist subject (i think its £5k this year?) and your finances, you should be okay but make sure you work out a firm budget - including traveling upto 50/60 miles for your placement 5 days a week.

    You need to show determination on your application so applying for both History and PE will look bad. Once in teaching, you are qualified top teach most subjects so i would go down the History route and then look to get involved with PE in your NQT year!

    I hope this helps!
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    (Original post by Marcusian)
    For some reason it's not letting me press return, so my next question is about experience. I am going to try to do 15 days experience in a secondary History environment - is this generally enough? Obviously how I refer to the experience in my interview and tests is crucial, but I just thought I would ask. I am thinking of applying for PGCE Secondary History (as I have a degree in the subject) and PGCE PE (As I fitness and sports fanatic), but truthfully I am going to do all my experience in history - is it even worth bothering applying for PE? I was doing it in case as a back up or as a genuine choice if I got accepted for both, does it show a lack of commitment to one by applying for both?
    Both History and PE are VERY competitive. Choose one or the other and only apply for that one. Get as much experience as you can get with the age you want to teach. This is both classroom based experience and things such as brownies/youth work.
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    Thanks guys - definitely going to focus on and only apply for History. I have written to two schools (my old school, and the school that is 100m from my house), and have a number of other options for experience should I feel the need to do more (it's not that easy when you work full time with annual leave being used). I am understanding of how competitive is it, so hopefully I can do all I can to make sure my application is strong.
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    (Original post by Marcusian)
    Thanks guys - definitely going to focus on and only apply for History. I have written to two schools (my old school, and the school that is 100m from my house), and have a number of other options for experience should I feel the need to do more (it's not that easy when you work full time with annual leave being used). I am understanding of how competitive is it, so hopefully I can do all I can to make sure my application is strong.
    As a parent doing a PGCE, can I just say please make sure this is EXACTLY what you want to do before starting. It is SO tough with a child, and given the amount of hours expected of you (I can often have to do 70 hours work a week with lesson planning, marking, essays etc...), then you need to be notoriously good at planning to fit everything in. I am mostly sacrificing sleep rather than losing time with my son at weekends, but sometimes, both have had to give!

    Good luck!
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    I have a daughter and I'm currently managing, not sure how I do it though!

    I echo everyone that said to concentrate on one. I looked at the application data from last year's cycle on GTTR and by far the most over-subscribed were PE, English and history in that order.

    PE is insanely competitive, although so is history, it took me 3 attempts to get a place, made it in the end though
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    although so is history, it took me 3 attempts to get a place, made it in the end though
    How was this process for you? Like anyone I want to get through first attempt, but in truth it wouldn't be the end of the world if I had to wait another year (providing my job remains depending on election results) as I could save another year's worth of money. Was the feedback decent? Did you feel each year your application was improved?
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    Thanks guys - to be fair I have worked in politics, including standing in elections so I do have some experience of trying to juggle everything, albeit I am sure this will be even more challenging. I know that it could take a few attempts, but I just to have to do everything I can to make my application as strong as possible. I have already secured 3 weeks, in three different schools, including a catholic school so that is at least a good start.
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    Yes, the feedback was good and I got a job as a Cover Supervisor which helped my application immensely! It was all I wanted to do so I was willing to do anything to get it- and I made sure they knew that at the interview!
 
 
 
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