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    (Original post by Pegasus2)
    You would contact a NK government company or your embassy would would contact the NK people respnsible. You would then get a 'visa' or basically authorisation to go there, provided you are not American or South Korean. The British are looked on as 'ok' but due to the closeness to the US other nationalaties may fair better.

    When you arrive you will be asked to hand over your mobile phone (I heard this was recinded recently) and will be assigned a minder or guide who will show you around and strictly control where you go.

    It's worth noting that if you step out of line your minder can end up in a lot of ****, including imprisonment and life forced labor. You will most likely be escorted and deported.
    Ok, but what if someone wanted to live their permanently?? Is it the same procedure, and even then, would the resident need a guide with them 24/7?
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    Ok, but what if someone wanted to live their permanently?? Is it the same procedure, and even then, would the resident need a guide with them 24/7?
    Simple answer, you can't.

    I'm sure there are exceptions though. I'm sure a South Korean with some good inside military info could defect and would be allowed to live in North Korea. But still probably closely guarded. There's also cases where people have had the "pleasure" of living there because they were abducted. There was a film director who was kidnapped by the North Korean government because Kim Jong Il wanted him to make films for him.

    But just an ordinary person? No way.
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    (Original post by Psyk)
    Simple answer, you can't.

    I'm sure there are exceptions though. I'm sure a South Korean with some good inside military info could defect and would be allowed to live in North Korea. But still probably closely guarded. There's also cases where people have had the "pleasure" of living there because they were abducted. There was a film director who was kidnapped by the North Korean government because Kim Jong Il wanted him to make films for him.

    But just an ordinary person? No way.
    Woah, I was just reading up on that Seems as though he also caused a double rainbow and a star to shine spontaneously

    Just wondering, why hasn't anyone attempted to hack the North Korean TV network and broadcast anti-propaganda shows? Surely it's possible in the modern technological age we live in.
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    Fair enough, so, how would one get to live in North Korea (A foreigner)? (Is it impossible??)
    Can't say I am totally sure about how you would defect to NK, but it is certainly possible (though highly unusual)
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    Woah, I was just reading up on that Seems as though he also caused a double rainbow and a star to shine spontaneously

    Just wondering, why hasn't anyone attempted to hack the North Korean TV network and broadcast anti-propaganda shows? Surely it's possible in the modern technological age we live in.
    It is perfectly possible to tune into foreign radio and TV shows in NK, and people do it. Of course, the penalties for getting caught doing this are severe.
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    (Original post by Kerny)
    It is perfectly possible to tune into foreign radio and TV shows in NK, and people do it. Of course, the penalties for getting caught doing this are severe.
    No I mean, what if someone outside of NK decided to hack the main North Korean network and do it?? Surely then there would be no escape of people getting the message???
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    No I mean, what if someone outside of NK decided to hack the main North Korean network and do it?? Surely then there would be no escape of people getting the message???
    Yeah, 'hacking' and 'Tv Networks' don't work like that.

    Also NK is not connected to the Internet, if it is it is very limited, perhaps a few PC's in the highest government buildings very few will have access too. Nearly all houses don't have TVs or Radios for that matter, only the highest government do. If any outside do, they probably won't be tunable and will only recieve government controled channels. The public don't even have telephones.

    Just to give you an idea, there are few if no tractors over there, all agriculture is done by hand. a lot of rural settlements don't even have electricity and the only real city is Pyongyang. To live there you must be loyal and selected and having a TV would be nearly a dream.

    Even if you did 'tell them of the truth' they woudn't believe you, they are completely brainwashed since birth.
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    (Original post by Pegasus2)
    Yeah, 'hacking' and 'Tv Networks' don't work like that.

    Also NK is not connected to the Internet, if it is it is very limited, perhaps a few PC's in the highest government buildings very few will have access too. Nearly all houses don't have TVs or Radios for that matter, only the highest government do. If any outside do, they probably won't be tunable and will only recieve government controled channels. The public don't even have telephones.

    Just to give you an idea, there are few if no tractors over there, all agriculture is done by hand. a lot of rural settlements don't even have electricity and the only real city is Pyongyang. To live there you must be loyal and selected and having a TV would be nearly a dream.

    Even if you did 'tell them of the truth' they woudn't believe you, they are completely brainwashed since birth.
    Right, so, is it technically impossible to spark a rebellion in NK?
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    Right, so, is it technically impossible to spark a rebellion in NK?
    Dude, most of the population think Kim Jong Un is God and that the 1993 famine was brought about because they had failed to follow the leader's teachings.

    They think the outside world is in chaos and they are very lucky to live in NK.
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    What was NK like before this current dictatorial family took power? Surely it wasn't always in such a state and so it amazes me they managed to get it like that when originally there must have been older people who remembered what it used to be like?


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    (Original post by Beckyweck)
    What was NK like before this current dictatorial family took power? Surely it wasn't always in such a state and so it amazes me they managed to get it like that when originally there must have been older people who remembered what it used to be like?


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    NK is a product of the dictatorial Kim family. Before NK was formed? Well Korea was being suppressed by the Japanese as it was a Japanese colony and the Japanese was trying to erase Korean culture. Before that? Well you're now well in the 19th century, and no one who lived in those times is alive on the peninsular.
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    Because without those restrictions the ruling elite would loose power.
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    (Original post by Pegasus2)
    Dude, most of the population think Kim Jong Un is God and that the 1993 famine was brought about because they had failed to follow the leader's teachings.

    They think the outside world is in chaos and they are very lucky to live in NK.
    Ouch, so suppose you brought a NK person into the outside world and showed them the truth???
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    Right, so, is it technically impossible to spark a rebellion in NK?
    They have full control over all media and internet. If you're lucky enough to have a TV or Radio they're like the lovely ones that we're available in Eastern Europe. They only pick up certain channels.


    When you think of North Korea think of those crazy people who live underground as they think the Cuban Missile crisis turned hot. Unless you can actually see what the outside world is like you'll never never be able to compare your life and living standards to other people.
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    Ouch, so suppose you brought a NK person into the outside world and showed them the truth???
    One of three things.

    1) He wouldn't want to go back
    2) He'd be liquidated to not tell the truth.
    3) He'd be threatened/brainwashed into believing it was just a lie.
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    38 under par??? How did he manage that???


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    you doubt his abilities?
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    Here's an interesting video for anyone intereted.


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    Interestingly enough, you can actually enter NK as a tourist- if you look around the internet long enough, you find tales of Westerners who have gotten in. You have a guide the whole time though, it seems, so you can only see things they want you to see.

    I was looking at this stuff on Google Earth a while ago and came across these photos, which might be interesting. No idea who the person who took them is, just stumbled across them. Kinda interesting. The link starts at the 1st photo.
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    (Original post by tohaaaa)
    What other magnificent things has Kim Jong-il supposed to have done??? (This is quite funny) :cool:
    Well, apparently he used to lure short people into traps by advertising 'wonder-growth' drugs, he would then abandon them on a an uninhabited island to remove their genes from the gene-pool.

    He didn't boast so much about this though, one of his former tutors claimed this was true.

    Ironically he was really short, like 5ft 2" or something (he wore platform shows to make himself taller )
 
 
 
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