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It makes no sense why it should be the 'best'. When you think about the theory of it, school should be one of the worst. A place to learn about things you only sort of enjoy in order to go on to study more on these subjects which should lead to a career that is chosen based on the things you enjoy the most.

I liked school yes, however I prefer what I am doing now and haven't even embarked on a career yet.

The only time that I ever preferred school was when I was working construction, a job I hated. I would envy just about anyone in a school uniform when I was doing that.

I realised that it would be those who hate their jobs are more inclined to say school is the best days. Hate is maybe a strong word here, hate is so unbearable you have to leave. Maybe dislike their job or find out it isn't enjoyable as they thought.

Which makes no sense, I mean provided you pass all of your GCSEs the option of doing something you enjoy is open to you. Yet you will still get people following the money trail and that is something that makes no sense.

Why would you follow a path just for money? For example, if we restricted pay rates to those in school I have to wonder just how over subscribed the medical/dentistry courses would be. Being a doctor seems to be up there with a fire-fighter, police officer and the military among footballers and musicians as careers children want to do in primary school. Eventually the latter two are not realistic for whatever reason (usually it is children being told they are not good enough and they believe hard work will not get them there) and the others tend to lose their appeal once the rate of pay is unveiled. All of course for doctors. So generally the only the ones who go into the other services are the ones who have wanted to for a while and want to do it no matter what the pay, perhaps this is why most people in these careers love what they do, can the same be said for medical professionals?

I don't mean to pick on medicine here, it is just the most obvious example. I am talking about every type of job here. It makes no sense why people want to continue with a job just to make money in order to keep living a life they are not enjoying.

I believe that this is one thing that most career classes miss. Most of mine point out the best thing to do is to find something you love then get someone to pay you for it. However I don't think enough emphasis was on that point. This needs to change I think.

Schools need to educate students on picking careers better.

I have heard teachers say countless time not to pick teaching if you are after money. I never heard a teacher say not to pick money if you are after a career.
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I think this might be the first time i've ever agreed with you.
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I think this might be the first time i've ever agreed with you.
what do you disagree with?
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i've never heard of that saying before, who thinks secondary school is the best time of their life? University is understandable, but compulsory school education? really?
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i've never heard of that saying before, who thinks secondary school is the best time of their life? University is understandable, but compulsory school education? really?
People usually say it of university to be fair.
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People usually say it of university to be fair.
i don't know whether the OP means "school" as in secondary education or just education in general.
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It's meant in the sense that you are free from the responsibilities that an adult has.
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I agree. But I think for most people, doing a job they enjoy is not possible. People who do not go into higher education after high school with likely end up doing a menial job that holds no interest for them, whereas at least in school they probably liked some of the things they studied and had more free time on their hands. Even for people with higher education it is difficult to find a job you actually want to do. Most people will end up working for corporations they don't care about so even if they have a comfortable salary, they will spend the majority of their day away from everything they like.

And of course, people have a tendency to look back at the past through rose-tinted glasses. I often think about all the funny things that happened at school and how I wish I could go back, but I know the reality was very different. I was doing a lot of stuff I didn't care about then, and people were less kind in school. But we always remember the good things.
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I enjoyed secondary school simply as it was my "escape" from home, I had a lot of problems at home, therefore school was like heaven, I would dread going home every time the bell went.

Also I was not allowed to go out much, therefore the only times I could see my friends was at school.
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It's all relative really. Some would say uni days are the best you'll ever have, but just spend 5 minutes searching around on TSR and you'll find plenty of users for whom that is definitely not the case.

Personally, I hated every second of secondary school, and if I never see the place again it'll be too soon. But college and uni were both great. Doesn't mean everyone had that same experience though.
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I can see where it comes from. Primary school was enjoyable in that the work barely mattered and we got to have loads of fun. Secondary school maybe less so, but I still look back on it with affection most of the time - I think there was a certain type of camaraderie with your classmates that is impossible to replicate in uni, and we always had a good laugh outside of lessons, and inside lessons sometimes if you discount the fact we were doing increasingly difficult work!

In my personal experience, I didn't like sixth form much. Probably because I wasn't around my friends for most of it, so it really does depend on your environment I reckon. Uni I'm pretty undecided about so far, it's been great at times and horrific at others.
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As with adult life, school had its good aspects and its bad aspects. I don't see one as better than the other. They're just different and they both have their ups and downs.

I agree that schools need to educate students a lot more on careers and paths into those careers.
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Maybe school is the best time of your life as it is part of your childhood. As a child you don't have the responsibilities of an adult. Many have fond recollections of their childhood and so even school is remembered through rose-tinted glasses.
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i've never heard of that saying before, who thinks secondary school is the best time of their life? University is understandable, but compulsory school education? really?
My dad said it to me and my sisters a lot when we were in school, normally when we hadn't done our homework or were complaining about x subject being boring/a waste of time. He used to say once we left school we would have bills to pay etc whereas when you are school age you don't have any real stress, worries or responsibilites. I think it was more "being young and carefree" is the best time of your life rather than being in school itself but for him that was when he was school age as he was expected to get a job and contribute or move out when he left.

I think him using the saying might be to do with how his life worked out as although he says he loves his job now he has also told us numerous times (normally right before/after he said the above) about how hard it was to get there. Basically he didn't try in school as he was getting the grades the RAF needed and they were heavily recruiting when he was 15, his friends who applied all got in that summer but he turned 16 late so had to wait until September to apply. They then stopped recruiting and kept telling him they'd consider him 'next time' but that went on for a while until they were cutting back rather than recruiting further and he never got in. He got in debt borrowing money to keep up with the lifestyles of his friends who had jobs and then when he did get a job himself it was low paid and took him a long time to pay back.
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It makes no sense why it should be the 'best'. When you think about the theory of it, school should be one of the worst. A place to learn about things you only sort of enjoy in order to go on to study more on these subjects which should lead to a career that is chosen based on the things you enjoy the most.

I liked school yes, however I prefer what I am doing now and haven't even embarked on a career yet.

The only time that I ever preferred school was when I was working construction, a job I hated. I would envy just about anyone in a school uniform when I was doing that.

I realised that it would be those who hate their jobs are more inclined to say school is the best days. Hate is maybe a strong word here, hate is so unbearable you have to leave. Maybe dislike their job or find out it isn't enjoyable as they thought.

Which makes no sense, I mean provided you pass all of your GCSEs the option of doing something you enjoy is open to you. Yet you will still get people following the money trail and that is something that makes no sense.

Why would you follow a path just for money? For example, if we restricted pay rates to those in school I have to wonder just how over subscribed the medical/dentistry courses would be. Being a doctor seems to be up there with a fire-fighter, police officer and the military among footballers and musicians as careers children want to do in primary school. Eventually the latter two are not realistic for whatever reason (usually it is children being told they are not good enough and they believe hard work will not get them there) and the others tend to lose their appeal once the rate of pay is unveiled. All of course for doctors. So generally the only the ones who go into the other services are the ones who have wanted to for a while and want to do it no matter what the pay, perhaps this is why most people in these careers love what they do, can the same be said for medical professionals?

I don't mean to pick on medicine here, it is just the most obvious example. I am talking about every type of job here. It makes no sense why people want to continue with a job just to make money in order to keep living a life they are not enjoying.

I believe that this is one thing that most career classes miss. Most of mine point out the best thing to do is to find something you love then get someone to pay you for it. However I don't think enough emphasis was on that point. This needs to change I think.

Schools need to educate students on picking careers better.

I have heard teachers say countless time not to pick teaching if you are after money. I never heard a teacher say not to pick money if you are after a career.

I agree. Loved my school days but that they're the best of your life is a depressing thought. It's all down hill from here boy!
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I think it's more about childhood than school per se.

Watching TV and playing super mario kart round my friends' houses was pretty sweet.

Plus England was different back then...I miss it
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I agree. School isn't the best time of your life imo.

Being able to stand on your two feet however, is.

The oversubscription to medicine and dentistry courses lie primarily with those of African/Asian descent - because of the influence from their parents. And if you don't make it into Medicine then do Biomedical Science or Pharmacy.

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Ok, on a serious note I couldn't go into a career that brought about no enjoyment or fulfilment. And if there were no industries or specialisms that I'd like to partake in - I'd rather create my own ~ whilst having part-time jobs of course, in the new media/creative industry where experience > > > > qualifications.
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I think it's more about childhood than school per se.

Watching TV and playing super mario kart round my friends' houses was pretty sweet.

Plus England was different back then...I miss it
40p bus fares and children go free? Those were the days. :moon:
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The oversubscription to medicine and dentistry courses lie primarily with those of African/Asian descent - because of the influence from their parents. And if you don't make it into Medicine then do Biomedical Science or Pharmacy.
I don't agree with that. Regardless, most are still in it for the money even if they want to be there or not if that is the case. This doesn't apply specifically to home students.
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I don't agree with that. Regardless, most are still in it for the money even if they want to be there or not if that is the case. This doesn't apply specifically to home students.
That's what I meant. They do it for the money (forgot to include it in my post.). I spoke to some relatives a few years back and everyone just said "if you get A's -do Medicine, do surgery - lots of money."
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