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    I get it, his name is "Doctor Forty Two".
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    (Original post by AlphaNick)
    anyone else miss the eccleston days with episodes like Dalek, Empty Child/Doctor Dances, etc??


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    Me! I rewatched all of series 1 again and I just thought the episodes were really clever and Ecclestons more serious doctor had me hooked. Though to be fair I was more hooked by David Tennant with episodes such as Blink, The Waters of Mars, Family of Blood, Human nature, Utopia etc
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    (Original post by Robbie242)
    Me! I rewatched all of series 1 again and I just thought the episodes were really clever and Ecclestons more serious doctor had me hooked. Though to be fair I was more hooked by David Tennant with episodes such as Blink, The Waters of Mars, Family of Blood, Human nature, Utopia etc
    Agreed. What was your favourite Tennant and Ecclestone episode? If you have the channel Watch, they're playing a lot of Tennant's episodes today.


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    (Original post by Robbie242)
    Me! I rewatched all of series 1 again and I just thought the episodes were really clever and Ecclestons more serious doctor had me hooked. Though to be fair I was more hooked by David Tennant with episodes such as Blink, The Waters of Mars, Family of Blood, Human nature, Utopia etc
    I loved Ecclestone - i don't understand why he gets so much grief on who sites. He kind of reminded me of the dad from taken and as far as i was concerned i loved it. Plus it was before they ruined the doctor and made him fall in love :puke:, so his chemistry with rose was quite interesting to watch - one day he was a father figuire, next he was naughty big brother
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    Nail, head, hit.
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    (Original post by randomd_love)
    I loved Ecclestone - i don't understand why he gets so much grief on who sites. He kind of reminded me of the dad from taken and as far as i was concerned i loved it. Plus it was before they ruined the doctor and made him fall in love :puke:, so his chemistry with rose was quite interesting to watch - one day he was a father figuire, next he was naughty big brother
    A lot of people like his acting and his version of the Doctor - but after he left, he refused to have anything more to do with the show. It's really sad, because all the other Doctors have got involved in things, but he just refused point blank to do anything at all for the 50th, for example - the only living Doctor who wasn't involved in some way. (The living Classic Doctors were all in a radio drama, McGann and Tennant were in the mini-episode and the actual episode respectively).He wouldn't even shoot a 3 second 'first appearance' when Hurt regenerated. Hence people not liking him even if they think he made a good Doctor.
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    (Original post by Feefifofum)
    A lot of people like his acting and his version of the Doctor - but after he left, he refused to have anything more to do with the show. It's really sad, because all the other Doctors have got involved in things, but he just refused point blank to do anything at all for the 50th, for example - the only living Doctor who wasn't involved in some way. (The living Classic Doctors were all in a radio drama, McGann and Tennant were in the mini-episode and the actual episode respectively).He wouldn't even shoot a 3 second 'first appearance' when Hurt regenerated. Hence people not liking him even if they think he made a good Doctor.
    Ooo i did not know that. But john simm is pretty much the same (in fact he's worse and rightly gets a lot of stick for ****ging who and its fans off. At least Eccleston has bowed out gracefully. I can understand why he would want nothing more though - imagine if your primary school held a reunion every year you'd have to struggle to find a reason to go back especially if you've moved on; i wish he'd psychic his mind nonethless
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    (Original post by randomd_love)
    Ooo i did not know that. But john simm is pretty much the same (in fact he's worse and rightly gets a lot of stick for ****ging who and its fans off. At least Eccleston has bowed out gracefully. I can understand why he would want nothing more though - imagine if your primary school held a reunion every year you'd have to struggle to find a reason to go back especially if you've moved on; i wish he'd psychic his mind nonethless
    Doctor Who holds a reunion every 10 years at the most:confused:
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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    Doctor Who holds a reunion every 10 years at the most:confused:
    lol no - that was a bit of an exaggeration I meant if you leave something why should you go back after you have left it. David Tennant got asked to be in Sarah Jane, the comic strip and a lot of other spin offs. The example was bad but the sentiment still stands - i'd be reluctant to go back to something i consider my past no matter how good it was
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    (Original post by randomd_love)
    lol no - that was a bit of an exaggeration I meant if you leave something why should you go back after you have left it. David Tennant got asked to be in Sarah Jane, the comic strip and a lot of other spin offs. The example was bad but the sentiment still stands - i'd be reluctant to go back to something i consider my past no matter how good it was
    Why?I know you need to move on but why can't you go back every now and again that's why reunions occur.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    I really don't think this season was bad when compared to series 6. The second half actually had the Snowmen and Nightmare in Silver in addition to a lot of average and only 1 bad episode.

    Series 1, 2 and 4 were in a different league but the second half of series 7 was probably a little better than series 3 and 5 which were poor bar spectacular multi-parters (the master, Byzantium and pandorica). Series 6 should be erased from my mind.
    (Original post by muonz)
    :eek: How dare you! Blink is one of my favourite episodes! Along with Human Nature!
    I think Series 3 is massively under-rated because everyone hates Martha. For me Martha is my least favourite companion but Series 3 is my favourite because the stories were excellent. Especially the second half of it. Perfection.


    (Original post by ThisIsn'tSpam)
    Some of the episodes from the last season were definitely rather poor. I know people keep going on and on about the speech at the end of the "Rings of Akhaten", but speech or no speech, it was a fairly rubbish episode. The same applies to "Hide" (one of the most wishy-washiest endings I've ever seen) and "The Power of Three" (It literally embodies the quick solution trope).

    "The Snowmen" is another personal gripe for me, given the fact that the Great Intelligence just seemed to say, "Bugger it, I'm off to Tibet to build some Yeti" and stop trying to take over the world.
    My biggest sorrow is that the last series has been so underwhelming that actually there aren't any episodes that come to mind (with Angels Take Manhattan the only one that is possibly an exception) that I would actively go and watch again whereas recently I went back and watched some episodes from series 3 and 4.
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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    Why?I know you need to move on but why can't you go back every now and again that's why reunions occur.
    I would say that there's a certain pressure. As DT was so fantastic as the Doctor, when he left people were saying "Ooh he should come back and stay" and other things, but I think it was the right time for him to go.

    He was my favourite Doctor (perhaps because he was my first proper Doctor as my mum didn't really let me watch the first series) and the good thing about him leaving then was that we looked back with fondness.

    And if you come back to a role, you HAVE to be as good, if not better than how you were before, which is why there would be some sort of apprehension towards it.
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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    Why?I know you need to move on but why can't you go back every now and again that's why reunions occur.
    Yeah but if no one has a reason to go back why should you? he was famous before who and i remember when he was hired thinking back to how great he was in a play i had seen. His career hasn't stalled so i'd struggle to find a reason to go back if i was him.

    He may like john simm hate the drama that comes from who. John hates how vocal who fans are of his performance and even go as far as telling him they thought he was rubbish while he is out and about. <- this i feel is a valid point as who fans are scarily intense sometimes.
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    (Original post by SirMasterKey)
    I think Series 3 is massively under-rated because everyone hates Martha. For me Martha is my least favourite companion but Series 3 is my favourite because the stories were excellent. Especially the second half of it. Perfection.




    My biggest sorrow is that the last series has been so underwhelming that actually there aren't any episodes that come to mind (with Angels Take Manhattan the only one that is possibly an exception) that I would actively go and watch again whereas recently I went back and watched some episodes from series 3 and 4.
    Yeah, with Martha, I liked the stories in the series, but I wasn't that fond on her really at all. Freema Agyeman for me was a bit shaky in terms of acting occasionally, which quite hurt the immersion into the world which you try and do.

    With the latest series I feel the same as you, except I kind of preferred the 2nd of it with Clara, and the only episode that really springs to mind for me was "Nightmare in Silver", and even then the details are quite foggy.
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    (Original post by chernid)
    Yeah, with Martha, I liked the stories in the series, but I wasn't that fond on her really at all. Freema Agyeman for me was a bit shaky in terms of acting occasionally, which quite hurt the immersion into the world which you try and do.

    With the latest series I feel the same as you, except I kind of preferred the 2nd of it with Clara, and the only episode that really springs to mind for me was "Nightmare in Silver", and even then the details are quite foggy.
    Aye. Someone mentioned 'Hide' and I had to look up which one it was. Episodes in first 6 series I could tell you what happened in a heartbeat. Not so in series 7.

    I'll also say that with my comment on not particularly being bothered to see them again, I would actually count both the 50th and Christmas special in there. I thought they were poorly done.
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Agreed. What was your favourite Tennant and Ecclestone episode? If you have the channel Watch, they're playing a lot of Tennant's episodes today.


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    Wasn't directed at me but I'll hijack it anyway:

    Eccleston - Dalek. Was just brutal and brilliant. One rogue Dalek is much scarier than millions in a fleet.
    Tennant - Much harder as there's loads more material to choose from but I reckon The Waters of Mars, that was scary as hell. The two-parter with the Daleks in New York was pretty cool too.

    What about you?
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    I would have to say that my top three favourite episodes/stories from the Eccleston era would be Dalek, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances and Fathers Day.

    For the Tennant era they would be Human Nature/The Family of Blood, Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead and The Waters of Mars.

    Matt Smith's best three (for me) would be The Eleventh Hour, The Doctor's Wife and Amy's Choice.

    Best Multi-Doctor Story?

    The Day of the Doctor. Clever, epic, humorous, satisfying and filled with brilliant and subtle references, it just blows away the competition.
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    (Original post by St. Brynjar)
    Wasn't directed at me but I'll hijack it anyway:

    Eccleston - Dalek. Was just brutal and brilliant. One rogue Dalek is much scarier than millions in a fleet.
    Tennant - Much harder as there's loads more material to choose from but I reckon The Waters of Mars, that was scary as hell. The two-parter with the Daleks in New York was pretty cool too.

    What about you?
    Dalek was incredible, I remember crying a bit at the end of that episode, when the Dalek actually has an emotional capacity. I love stripped back episodes like that. Ecclestone- The Doctor Dances, Rose (just because it was the one that got me into Dr Who in the first place!)

    Tennant- I agree, he is my Doctor and so I struggle to like other Doctors as much (I'm not knocking Matt Smith who I thought was incredible, but David Tennant brings so many dimensions to his character)- Blink, The Family of Blood, potentially Doomsday or Love & Monsters. I like it when they take risks in their writing and strip back overcomplex stories and focus on character development, which I think most of these episodes did, if not provide the episode from someone else' view towards the Doctor. Journey's End was also incredible, because I really like Catherine Tate as the Doctor's assistant, for once he has an equal and not a subordinate lover and her with Timelord capacities was an incredible feat.

    Smith- I struggle to think of the names of most of his episodes, I have to look at my Netflix account, that's pretty shocking. I would say I enjoyed the original Torchwood more than Smith's episodes. If I had to pick though, it would be the Eleventh Hour, I think he established himself very quickly in his first episode, and I went from complete disdain of his cameo in Tennant's last episode, to admiration. Hence why I won't be joining others in putting down Capaldi for a twenty second bit of acting, when I've seen him as uniformly excellent in the Children of Earth in Torchwood and in the Thick of It. Someone remarked that he is being allowed to keep his accent based on that cameo, I just watched it again, he sounds like he's putting on an English accent.
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    (Original post by Cheese_Monster)
    Dalek was incredible, I remember crying a bit at the end of that episode, when the Dalek actually has an emotional capacity. I love stripped back episodes like that. Ecclestone- The Doctor Dances, Rose (just because it was the one that got me into Dr Who in the first place!)

    Tennant- I agree, he is my Doctor and so I struggle to like other Doctors as much (I'm not knocking Matt Smith who I thought was incredible, but David Tennant brings so many dimensions to his character)- Blink, The Family of Blood, potentially Doomsday or Love & Monsters. I like it when they take risks in their writing and strip back overcomplex stories and focus on character development, which I think most of these episodes did, if not provide the episode from someone else' view towards the Doctor. Journey's End was also incredible, because I really like Catherine Tate as the Doctor's assistant, for once he has an equal and not a subordinate lover and her with Timelord capacities was an incredible feat.

    Smith- I struggle to think of the names of most of his episodes, I have to look at my Netflix account, that's pretty shocking. I would say I enjoyed the original Torchwood more than Smith's episodes. If I had to pick though, it would be the Eleventh Hour, I think he established himself very quickly in his first episode, and I went from complete disdain of his cameo in Tennant's last episode, to admiration. Hence why I won't be joining others in putting down Capaldi for a twenty second bit of acting, when I've seen him as uniformly excellent in the Children of Earth in Torchwood and in the Thick of It. Someone remarked that he is being allowed to keep his accent based on that cameo, I just watched it again, he sounds like he's putting on an English accent.
    I thought he was using his normal accent during it, but it was quite confusing. It may make sense logistically as well. With Tennant's Doctor, his accent supposedly came from Rose to do with her imprinting herself on his incarnation or something.

    And as Amy Pond was the most important companion during 11's incarnation, it would make sense that her Scottish accent would imprint on 12.
 
 
 
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