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    (Original post by LexiswasmyNexis)
    I suggest that those employers recruit those individuals because they know them.

    I'm sure they'd rather know Oxbridge grads to recruit those, it just so happens they have decent links with Aston.


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    That strengthens a university imo.

    Then surely Oxbridge will also have links (perhaps even better links)?

    I think Aston's high graduate employ ability rating is successful in its own right.
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    (Original post by Lunch_Box)
    A 2:2 from Oxbridge probably trumps a 1st at Aston.
    It really doesn't, in most cases! :nah:
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    Makes me lol how some people don't understand that higher calibre universities have harder exams; If someone has had to achieve A*A*A to get on to their physics course, and someone else has had to achieve BBC to get on to theirs, and roughly the same proportion of people get 2:1s, firsts etc. then OBVIOUSLY the uni with the higher entrance requirements degree is going to be much more valuable..
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    (Original post by Iamyourfather)
    That strengthens a university imo.

    Then surely Oxbridge will also have links (perhaps even better links)?

    I think Aston's high graduate employ ability rating is successful in its own right.
    Maybe. But it doesn't change the possibility that those who recruit from Aston wish they were recruiting from Oxbridge.

    I doubt the premier organisations that recruit from Oxbridge wish they were recruiting Aston grads.

    I realise it's an imperfect comparison- Aston is well known for certain subjects. These at the ones with higher employability and are often subjects Oxbridge hasn't traditionally specialised in.

    If we're talking about Arts or Social Sciences, though, it's a no-brainer.


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    There's far too many posts on this thread that exceed 140 characters! Read the rules, people!
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    (Original post by ltigers)
    I think you underestimate the difficulty of getting into Oxbridge, completing the degree with some of the cleverest people in the world, and then coming out with 2.1
    I gave no opinion.

    But graduate employment is complex and reputation is often overstated.

    Has anyone ever noticed that on tsr, we've never seen a thread such as, "graduated from oxford, and now can't find a job"
    A few.

    There was a well known sub who graduated with a 2:1 from Cambridge and struggled with unemployed for a long time.
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    (Original post by RightSaidJames)
    There's far too many posts on this thread that exceed 140 characters! Read the rules, people!
    Many just see the thread in "latest threads" and post, unaware of its forum. I'm so used to seeing threads like this in GUD and now Educational Debate.
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    There was also a well-known user years back who had a First from Cambridge but struggled to find work for quite a while
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    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
    There was also a well-known user years back who had a First from Cambridge but struggled to find work for quite a while
    It was a first, wasn't it? I couldn't remember whether it was a first or 2:1.
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    (Original post by River85)
    Many just see the thread in "latest threads" and post, unaware of its forum. I'm so used to seeing threads like this in GUD and now Educational Debate.
    Ignorance is no excuse! :judge:

    (Also, your reply was 151 characters)
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    (Original post by River85)
    It was a first, wasn't it? I couldn't remember whether it was a first or 2:1.
    I think it was a First :yes: If we're talking about the same person :ninja:
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    (Original post by marcus2001)
    Makes me lol how some people don't understand that higher calibre universities have harder exams; If someone has had to achieve A*A*A to get on to their physics course, and someone else has had to achieve BBC to get on to theirs, and roughly the same proportion of people get 2:1s, firsts etc. then OBVIOUSLY the uni with the higher entrance requirements degree is going to be much more valuable..
    Or A-levels aren't a reliable indication of academic performance at university?
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    (Original post by ltigers)
    I think you underestimate the difficulty of getting into Oxbridge, completing the degree with some of the cleverest people in the world, and then coming out with 2.1
    This can be an advantage. Especially if not being marked on a curve.

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    I think it was a First :yes: If we're talking about the same person :ninja:
    We are :ninja2:
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    (Original post by River85)
    Or A-levels aren't a reliable indication of academic performance at university?
    Do you really think a student with CCD at A-Level could thrive in a RG uni?
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    (Original post by playingcards)
    Do you really think student with CCD at A-Level could thrive in a RG uni?
    Depends on the reasons why they got those grades in the first place (illness, teaching, boredom). Besides, Aston have higher reqs.
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    (Original post by River85)
    Or A-levels aren't a reliable indication of academic performance at university?

    (Original post by playingcards)
    Do you really think a student with CCD at A-Level could thrive in a RG uni?
    Exactly this.
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    (Original post by River85)
    Sometimes. Depends on the reasons why they got those grades in the first place (illness, teaching, boredom...)
    But I’m sure you know of people who were badly-taught, bored, ill, etc., and still went on to get AAA. A-levels are a decent indicator of ability and potential.
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    (Original post by marcus2001)
    Exactly this.
    See above.

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    But I’m sure you know of people who were badly-taught, bored, ill, etc., and still went on to get AAA. A-levels are a decent indicator of ability and potential.
    Yes, but many don't.

    Decent, not perfect. Students might also thrive in HE more than A-level as they feel more motivated.
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    (Original post by LexiswasmyNexis)
    Maybe. But it doesn't change the possibility that those who recruit from Aston wish they were recruiting from Oxbridge.

    I doubt the premier organisations that recruit from Oxbridge wish they were recruiting Aston grads.

    I realise it's an imperfect comparison- Aston is well known for certain subjects. These at the ones with higher employability and are often subjects Oxbridge hasn't traditionally specialised in.

    If we're talking about Arts or Social Sciences, though, it's a no-brainer.


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    There is high recruitment at Aston because they encourage placement years. Many have substantial work experience which has just as much value if not more value than the degree itself. Students there are practical. Long are the days when a degree itself was enough to get a job.
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    (Original post by RightSaidJames)
    There's far too many posts on this thread that exceed 140 characters! Read the rules, people!
    Oh I'm sorry, I wasn't aware. This thread should not be on this sub-forum.
 
 
 
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