That strengthens a university imo.(Original post by LexiswasmyNexis)
I suggest that those employers recruit those individuals because they know them.
I'm sure they'd rather know Oxbridge grads to recruit those, it just so happens they have decent links with Aston.
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Then surely Oxbridge will also have links (perhaps even better links)?
I think Aston's high graduate employ ability rating is successful in its own right.
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- 01-04-2013 15:54
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Makes me lol how some people don't understand that higher calibre universities have harder exams; If someone has had to achieve A*A*A to get on to their physics course, and someone else has had to achieve BBC to get on to theirs, and roughly the same proportion of people get 2:1s, firsts etc. then OBVIOUSLY the uni with the higher entrance requirements degree is going to be much more valuable..
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- 01-04-2013 16:13
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That strengthens a university imo.
Then surely Oxbridge will also have links (perhaps even better links)?
I think Aston's high graduate employ ability rating is successful in its own right.
I doubt the premier organisations that recruit from Oxbridge wish they were recruiting Aston grads.
I realise it's an imperfect comparison- Aston is well known for certain subjects. These at the ones with higher employability and are often subjects Oxbridge hasn't traditionally specialised in.
If we're talking about Arts or Social Sciences, though, it's a no-brainer.
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- 01-04-2013 17:19
There's far too many posts on this thread that exceed 140 characters! Read the rules, people!
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- 01-04-2013 17:24
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I think you underestimate the difficulty of getting into Oxbridge, completing the degree with some of the cleverest people in the world, and then coming out with 2.1
But graduate employment is complex and reputation is often overstated.
Has anyone ever noticed that on tsr, we've never seen a thread such as, "graduated from oxford, and now can't find a job"
There was a well known sub who graduated with a 2:1 from Cambridge and struggled with unemployed for a long time. -
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There was also a well-known user years back who had a First from Cambridge but struggled to find work for quite a while
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- 01-04-2013 17:36
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Many just see the thread in "latest threads" and post, unaware of its forum. I'm so used to seeing threads like this in GUD and now Educational Debate.
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- 01-04-2013 17:39
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It was a first, wasn't it? I couldn't remember whether it was a first or 2:1.If we're talking about the same person
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Makes me lol how some people don't understand that higher calibre universities have harder exams; If someone has had to achieve A*A*A to get on to their physics course, and someone else has had to achieve BBC to get on to theirs, and roughly the same proportion of people get 2:1s, firsts etc. then OBVIOUSLY the uni with the higher entrance requirements degree is going to be much more valuable.. -
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- 01-04-2013 17:44
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I think you underestimate the difficulty of getting into Oxbridge, completing the degree with some of the cleverest people in the world, and then coming out with 2.1
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I think it was a FirstIf we're talking about the same person
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- 01-04-2013 17:46
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Or A-levels aren't a reliable indication of academic performance at university? -
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Do you really think student with CCD at A-Level could thrive in a RG uni? -
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- 01-04-2013 17:49
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Or A-levels aren't a reliable indication of academic performance at university?
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Sometimes. Depends on the reasons why they got those grades in the first place (illness, teaching, boredom...) -
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Exactly this.
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But I’m sure you know of people who were badly-taught, bored, ill, etc., and still went on to get AAA. A-levels are a decent indicator of ability and potential.
Decent, not perfect. Students might also thrive in HE more than A-level as they feel more motivated. -
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- 01-04-2013 18:13
(Original post by LexiswasmyNexis)
Maybe. But it doesn't change the possibility that those who recruit from Aston wish they were recruiting from Oxbridge.
I doubt the premier organisations that recruit from Oxbridge wish they were recruiting Aston grads.
I realise it's an imperfect comparison- Aston is well known for certain subjects. These at the ones with higher employability and are often subjects Oxbridge hasn't traditionally specialised in.
If we're talking about Arts or Social Sciences, though, it's a no-brainer.
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