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    So let me just get this straight...

    I'm voting on the internet for made up parties with made up policies that don't exist, but people pretend they do and they actually argue about them? (despite being made up, and knowing that it's all made up?)

    This is honestly the weirdest thing I've ever heard of...

    I voted Liberal, either way.
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    So let me just get this straight...

    I'm voting on the internet for made up parties with made up policies that don't exist, but people pretend they do and they actually argue about them? (despite being made up, and knowing that it's all made up?)

    This is honestly the weirdest thing I've ever heard of...

    I voted Liberal, either way.
    It's not quite that simple. The MHoC is a game that many members of this site play. The election decides the seat allocation for the next chapter of that game (or term) - the parties then try and form the government and use the next 6 months to debate the issues in the manifestos, so the policies do exist as most parties use them for debate ideas. You're voting contributes to that process and getting a much better election result. It also helps publicise the MHoC to new members who might like the idea and want to get involved. Yes, this is all make-believe but it's something we enjoy doing in our spare time.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    It's not quite that simple. The MHoC is a game that many members of this site play. The election decides the seat allocation for the next chapter of that game (or term) - the parties then try and form the government and use the next 6 months to debate the issues in the manifestos. You're voting contributes to that process and getting a much better election result. It also helps publicise the MHoC to new members who might like the idea and want to get involved. Yes, this is all make-believe but it's something we enjoy doing in our spare time.
    So because I voted Liberal and you're a Greenie, I guess you hate me now?

    Although I did vote Liberal, I'd still like to join you protesting about whale hunting. Next time you guys organise a trip to go off on the Sea Shepherd I'd very much like to join in. I've still got a great catapult from a few Christmas' back that we can use to launch attacks to the Japanese whalers from.
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    So because I voted Liberal and you're a Greenie, I guess you hate me now?
    Nobody hates anybody round here. Well, most of them time.

    Although I did vote Liberal, I'd still like to join you protesting about whale hunting. Next time you guys organise a trip to go off on the Sea Shepherd I'd very much like to join in. I've still got a great catapult from a few Christmas' back that we can use to launch attacks to the Japanese whalers from.
    I think you're confusing us with Greenpeace. We're slightly less militant.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    Nobody hates anybody round here. Well, most of them time.

    I think you're confusing us with Greenpeace. We're slightly less militant.
    This is just all too much to handle... I'm bowing out of my short lived career in politics by the looks of it...

    Just way to confusing for me.
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    So because I voted Liberal and you're a Greenie, I guess you hate me now?

    Although I did vote Liberal, I'd still like to join you protesting about whale hunting. Next time you guys organise a trip to go off on the Sea Shepherd I'd very much like to join in. I've still got a great catapult from a few Christmas' back that we can use to launch attacks to the Japanese whalers from.
    Would you have voted for the Liberals had they been called the Liberal Democrats? (Just interested to see if their name change is working...)
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    (Original post by JPKC)
    Would you have voted for the Liberals had they been called the Liberal Democrats? (Just interested to see if their name change is working...)
    Honestly, I didn't pay particular attention to their name.

    I read all of the peoples policies and I related to The Liberal's much more than I did the others. They could be called the RybeeIsATwatParty and I'd still vote for them.

    And just FYI, I didn't vote for The Socialist Party because they came across as a bit *too* extreme. A little bit anarchic if you will?
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    Honestly, I didn't pay particular attention to their name.

    I read all of the peoples policies and I related to The Liberal's much more than I did the others. They could be called the RybeeIsATwatParty and I'd still vote for them.
    Fair enough. In that case, what particularly drew you to them?
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    (Original post by JPKC)
    Fair enough. In that case, what particularly drew you to them?
    Humm probably their civil liberties:

    Repealing 'stop and search' legislation
    Rejecting any legislation that creates secret courts.
    Opposing plans for DNA databases and ID cards
    Forcing police to remove your DNA and details if you haven't been convicted.
    Fighting against any attempts to censor the Internet.

    I'm very opposed to the abuse of the stop and search legislation, which is so often abuse by the Met Police in particular. I don't think it's such an issue elsewhere but it infuriates me.

    The whole idea behind a court system is exposure of the truth, I'm strongly opposed to any 'secret court'. It's a one way path to trouble.

    As for DNA databases, I was arrested (unlawfully) last July. I was not charged but my DNA is sitting on the national database and despite requests for it to be destroyed in line with ECtHR rulings, the chief constable has refused. So this was a very personal sway in the vote for me.

    Attempts to censor the internet; often people cite their children going online looking at porn as a reason for censorship. I don't believe in censorship, I believe in good parenting. Just because you cannot educate, control and watch your children, doesn't mean censorship is the answer. You're just covering up a pothole on the motorway with a bit of sand, it's a bodge fix.





    As for the Socialist Party, I agreed with:
    Nationalising Transport and Utilities
    Drugs - Rehabilitation is the way forward for treatment, simply convicting users is no use to anybody and a waste of money.


    But I was put off by:
    50% Tax bracket, I just don't think that is justifiable. I also detest the use of the term 'Robin Hood Tax', it portrays the culture of 'stealing from the rich and giving to the poor'. I couldn't be more opposed to that.

    I guess you/they/it just came across as a little anarchic and were up for a 'fight against the system' whereas the Liberal party seemed a tad more friendly.
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    Humm probably their civil liberties:

    Repealing 'stop and search' legislation
    Rejecting any legislation that creates secret courts.
    Opposing plans for DNA databases and ID cards
    Forcing police to remove your DNA and details if you haven't been convicted.
    Fighting against any attempts to censor the Internet.

    I'm very opposed to the abuse of the stop and search legislation, which is so often abuse by the Met Police in particular. I don't think it's such an issue elsewhere but it infuriates me.

    The whole idea behind a court system is exposure of the truth, I'm strongly opposed to any 'secret court'. It's a one way path to trouble.

    As for DNA databases, I was arrested (unlawfully) last July. I was not charged but my DNA is sitting on the national database and despite requests for it to be destroyed in line with ECtHR rulings, the chief constable has refused. So this was a very personal sway in the vote for me.

    Attempts to censor the internet; often people cite their children going online looking at porn as a reason for censorship. I don't believe in censorship, I believe in good parenting. Just because you cannot educate, control and watch your children, doesn't mean censorship is the answer. You're just covering up a pothole on the motorway with a bit of sand, it's a bodge fix.





    As for the Socialist Party, I agreed with:
    Nationalising Transport and Utilities
    Drugs - Rehabilitation is the way forward for treatment, simply convicting users is no use to anybody and a waste of money.


    But I was put off by:
    50% Tax bracket, I just don't think that is justifiable. I also detest the use of the term 'Robin Hood Tax', it portrays the culture of 'stealing from the rich and giving to the poor'. I couldn't be more opposed to that.

    I guess you/they/it just came across as a little anarchic and were up for a 'fight against the system' whereas the Liberal party seemed a tad more friendly.
    Cheers for your response. I wouldn't expect a Liberal voter to agree with the Socialists on a lot really, but it's encouraging that we do see eye to eye on drugs and nationalisations. :yy:
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    (Original post by JPKC)
    Cheers for your response. I wouldn't expect a Liberal voter to agree with the Socialists on a lot really, but it's encouraging that we do see eye to eye on drugs and nationalisations. :yy:
    I didn't see the parties as *too* different.

    I am quite naive to politics, but why do you differ from Liberal? I see it as an even more left wing party? So I'm surprised that you say you wouldn't expect a Liberal to agree on a lot?
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    I didn't see the parties as *too* different.

    I am quite naive to politics, but why do you differ from Liberal? I see it as an even more left wing party? So I'm surprised that you say you wouldn't expect a Liberal to agree on a lot?
    The Liberal Party (recently formed from the Liberal Democrats) are broadly economic centrists whilst the socialists are obviously not. On social stuff a lot of the parties are broadly similar given that students are vastly socially liberal no matter what their economic persuasion.
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    I voted Liberal, either way.
    Your vote is greatly appreciated. We're a really active community here, if you're interested in politics or debating it would be great to have you involved.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    It's not quite that simple. The MHoC is a game that many members of this site play. The election decides the seat allocation for the next chapter of that game (or term) - the parties then try and form the government and use the next 6 months to debate the issues in the manifestos, so the policies do exist as most parties use them for debate ideas. You're voting contributes to that process and getting a much better election result. It also helps publicise the MHoC to new members who might like the idea and want to get involved. Yes, this is all make-believe but it's something we enjoy doing in our spare time.
    How about going out and socialising or watching TV in your spare time?
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    Your vote is greatly appreciated. We're a really active community here, if you're interested in politics or debating it would be great to have you involved.
    Hah, honestly I'm too much of a liberal person to even get involved in debating. I just like to live and let live

    I'm not really sure as to what all this model house of commons business is, but I really do hope you win

    It's a shame because you are literally the ideal party for me in real life, I'd back you in an instant and I guess when I look at Lib Dem now, I just wouldn't back them. I feel as a person who is very liberal is being let down by the only party that I think could genuinely represent me... I do assume you vote/back Lib Dem?
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    (Original post by aarora)
    How about going out and socialising or watching TV in your spare time?
    I'm sorry, but why is watching TV better than actively pursuing both a hobby and a personal interest?
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    (Original post by aarora)
    How about going out and socialising or watching TV in your spare time?
    Can't I do all three? I have time for socialising and watching TV (when something half decent is actually on) yet I still come on here because its a fun community
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    (Original post by aarora)
    How about going out and socialising or watching TV in your spare time?
    You can watch TV and use the internet at the same time
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    Hah, honestly I'm too much of a liberal person to even get involved in debating. I just like to live and let live

    I'm not really sure as to what all this model house of commons business is, but I really do hope you win

    It's a shame because you are literally the ideal party for me in real life, I'd back you in an instant and I guess when I look at Lib Dem now, I just wouldn't back them. I feel as a person who is very liberal is being let down by the only party that I think could genuinely represent me... I do assume you vote/back Lib Dem?
    Mind if i ask which policies you support with the Liberals that you feel the RL Liberal Democrats don't support?
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    (Original post by Rybee)
    I didn't see the parties as *too* different.

    I am quite naive to politics, but why do you differ from Liberal? I see it as an even more left wing party? So I'm surprised that you say you wouldn't expect a Liberal to agree on a lot?
    The Liberals are hard to pin down as they seem willing to put themselves across in the way that will be most popular with whatever audience they're standing in front of. If you put one in a room with a socialist they'd 'agree' with the socialist on alot, if you put the same person in a room with a conservative they'd also 'agree' with the conservative on a lot - they come across as different things to different people. The important parts for me is what their actions tell you about them; in the past, "Liberals" in the MHoC have argued for the privatisation of the National Health Service, for the banning of trade unions, and for a massive reduction in the level of services provided by the government. In this election they are framing themselves as a party dedicated to protecting your civil liberties, but this is a rather recent development on their part. We Socialists differ from the liberals in the sense that we are a very consistent party. Our policies five years ago are the same as they are today; we oppose capitalism and would like to see the introduction of a socialist economic system - one where work is fairly rewarded, and where people who don't work don't get to live off of the labour of others. We believe in the democratic control of public services, and in the protection of people's human rights.
 
 
 
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