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    Hey guys. I am currently in Year 12 doing Maths, Further Maths and Chemistry at college. I am looking to do a maths degree. I have a few questions.. The first being is it at all possible to get an offer from Cambridge from only doing 3 A levels and no extra AS levels (I would be doing AEA as well as STEP and might do an extended project, if that'll help?? ) ? the second being, at Cambridge am i more likely to get a lower offer if i make an open application, or in other words, am i more likely to get a place? the last question is about warwick, anyone thats doing maths there, what are the advangtages of warwick and name all possible flaws that warwick has. If anyone can answer any of my questions, that will be a big big help. thank you all
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    Cambridge will give offers with only three A levels and no extra ASs, provided you perform well at interview - they care about mathematical ability and intelligence, not that you did geography for a year...

    If you make an open application, you will be allocated to a less competitive college, which will probably have a slightly lower quality of candidates or at least fewer top quality ones. So you may be slightly more likely to get a place, but not by a significant amount. And once you are at the interview you're the same as any candidate that applied specifically to the college, so it won't affect the offer you get. My advice with regards to colleges is to look round a few and choose the one you like the best, as opposed to trusting it to chance. Choose a less competitive one to increase your chances a little if you want.

    At Warwick there is a phenomenal amount of choice, compared to pretty much any other university. You can pursue a lot of physics, engineering, economics, computing or philosophy without any hassle and you can do anh module at the university subject to approval by your department. Warwick also has strong links with banking, and is well known for getting it's maths graduates onto their graduate schemes. But then a degree from Cambridge will open as many doors in that respect anyway.
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    Thanks very much! Are you attending university ?
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    Hey guys. I am currently in Year 12 doing Maths, Further Maths and Chemistry at college. I am looking to do a maths degree.
    Good choice

    I have a few questions.. The first being is it at all possible to get an offer from Cambridge from only doing 3 A levels and no extra AS levels
    Absolutely. You will have to focus on getting your UMS as high as possible, but if you do well, there's no reason why you couldn't get an offer. The only way your three A-Levels could be better is if you replaced Chemistry for Physics, but that's not a particularly big deal.

    (I would be doing AEA as well as STEP and might do an extended project, if that'll help?? ) ?
    Will you be doing AEA at the end of Year 12? If you do well on that, it would put you in a great place. If you're planning on doing it at the end of year 13, still mention it on your personal statement, but it won't mean a huge amount to Cambridge.

    Similarly with STEP, you can't really get away from doing it if you get a Cambridge offer - so it doesn't really mean much to Cambridge that you plan on doing it or not, except show that you've thought about it.

    Note that if you do take the exams early, you'll have to nail them because Cambridge doesn't look kindly on people taking exams early and then not getting the grades they would've got if they waited.

    the second being, at Cambridge am i more likely to get a lower offer if i make an open application, or in other words, am i more likely to get a place?
    Not even in the slightest.

    the last question is about warwick, anyone thats doing maths there, what are the advangtages of warwick and name all possible flaws that warwick has. If anyone can answer any of my questions, that will be a big big help. thank you all
    Can't really comment (I went to Imperial), but I recommend you look through both universities websites to get a flavour of what they have to offer. You should also look at Oxford, Imperial, UCL, Bath, Durham and Bristol (to name a few), and make a more informed decision about where you might want to go beyond "this university will sound good on my CV".

    Warwick's reputation for maths is excellent though (and well deserved), so whatever flaws it has they're relatively minor in the grand scheme of things.
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    (Original post by 3.1415927)
    Hey guys. I am currently in Year 12 doing Maths, Further Maths and Chemistry at college. I am looking to do a maths degree. I have a few questions.. The first being is it at all possible to get an offer from Cambridge from only doing 3 A levels and no extra AS levels (I would be doing AEA as well as STEP and might do an extended project, if that'll help?? ) ? the second being, at Cambridge am i more likely to get a lower offer if i make an open application, or in other words, am i more likely to get a place? the last question is about warwick, anyone thats doing maths there, what are the advangtages of warwick and name all possible flaws that warwick has. If anyone can answer any of my questions, that will be a big big help. thank you all
    Good choice of A levels, they will be fine for applying anywhere for maths. Cambridge will most likely give you the standard A*AA + 11 in STEP 2 and 3 offer whether you apply with an open application or to a specific college.

    I'm currently doing maths at Warwick, the main benefit which I could see over all my other maths uni offers was the flexibility of course, you have loads of options from your first year, for instance I did some stats, physics, computer science and philosophy modules all in my first year by choice! The next few year have way more module choices and in your 3rd and 4th year they're pretty much all options with no compulsory, so you can specialise in anyway you want.

    I can't really see any downsides. I guess Cambridge has the better reputation is one, but this is only by comparison to Cambridge. Warwick has a great reputation in the banking world and many other graduate schemes.

    If you have any specific questions about Warwick I am very happy to help.
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    Will you be doing AEA at the end of Year 12?
    Yeah i will .. what about the extended project will that help? i heard it could count as an AS? is this true?
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    Yeah i will .. what about the extended project will that help? i heard it could count as an AS? is this true?
    If you get a distinction in that, I can't see how a Cambridge don wouldn't find that impressive. The EPQ is useful in terms of getting some maths outside of the standard syllabus, but by its nature doesn't really mean an awful lot. I would still recommend you do it though, I would've jumped at the chance if it was available when I was in sixth form...
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    likely give you the standard A*AA + 11 in STEP 2 and 3 offer
    .. Im not too familiar with STEP, and the way it works.. Is STEP 2 and 3 the hardest STEPS? i know theres STEP 1,2 and 3. And i know 2 of them only cover content from core, but the other one has Futher Pure in as well, which 1?? is that correct?

    I also have a few questions about Warwick, one being, Whats the campus like there? are you near shops? how far away is Tescos?(the video says a 5 minute walk?)
    The second, on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the hardest), how hard has it been to adjust from A level maths to uni maths for you personally?
    Lastly, what A levels did you do? and what grades did you obtain?
    Thanks a lot man, you've been a massive help
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    Shamika, i was looking at other universities for maths, and i was wondering if you know what Southampton's reputation is like? I would make Southampton or Bath my second choice?
    Thanks man
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    (Original post by 3.1415927)
    Thanks very much! Are you attending university ?
    Yeah, I go to Warwick, but I've tried to be as unbiased as possible. I have good friends at Cambridge so have some understanding of life there (although I myself applied to Oxford).
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    Shamika, i was looking at other universities for maths, and i was wondering if you know what Southampton's reputation is like? I would make Southampton or Bath my second choice?
    Thanks man
    Don't know much about Southampton, but looking at their course I'd definitely pick Bath over Southampton. Plus, Bath is a really beautiful town
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    (Original post by 3.1415927)
    .. Im not too familiar with STEP, and the way it works.. Is STEP 2 and 3 the hardest STEPS? i know theres STEP 1,2 and 3. And i know 2 of them only cover content from core, but the other one has Futher Pure in as well, which 1?? is that correct?

    I also have a few questions about Warwick, one being, Whats the campus like there? are you near shops? how far away is Tescos?(the video says a 5 minute walk?)
    The second, on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being the hardest), how hard has it been to adjust from A level maths to uni maths for you personally?
    Lastly, what A levels did you do? and what grades did you obtain?
    Thanks a lot man, you've been a massive help
    I will pitch in, just so you have as much information as possible. I am a first year maths student at Warwick. My A levels were A*A*A (M, FM, Phy), and my STEP was 1,2 (I, II). Tescos is not far away, but it depends in what halls of residence you choose. For example I am staying in Jack Martin this year, and it is a good 10+ minutes walk to Tesco, whereas in Arthur Vick it would be slightly less, and in Westwood it would probably be 5 minutes or so. It is slightly annoying, but I think the peaceful environment of Warwick campus makes up for the lack of shops. I tend to go shopping in Birmingham or Leamington Spa every 3 weeks or so during term.

    I can't comment on how hard it is out of 10 really, because the difficulty of a '10' is surely based on what you are comparing it to. I would say my degree is the hardest thing I've ever done, but I work pretty hard. I am on my way to a 1st so far. Who knows what a 10 really is on the difficulty scale when you are only 19, right?
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    I will pitch in, just so you have as much information as possible. I am a first year maths student at Warwick. My A levels were A*A*A (M, FM, Phy), and my STEP was 1,2 (I, II). Tescos is not far away, but it depends in what halls of residence you choose. For example I am staying in Jack Martin this year, and it is a good 10+ minutes walk to Tesco, whereas in Arthur Vick it would be slightly less, and in Westwood it would probably be 5 minutes or so. It is slightly annoying, but I think the peaceful environment of Warwick campus makes up for the lack of shops. I tend to go shopping in Birmingham or Leamington Spa every 3 weeks or so during term.

    I can't comment on how hard it is out of 10 really, because the difficulty of a '10' is surely based on what you are comparing it to. I would say my degree is the hardest thing I've ever done, but I work pretty hard. I am on my way to a 1st so far. Who knows what a 10 really is on the difficulty scale when you are only 19, right?
    You talk a lot of sense ..Nice grades man! did you apply for Cambridge? do you like what warwick has to offer, in terms of the maths content, and campus? is it a nice place to live? whats the night life there like? Thanks for all of this
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    (Original post by 3.1415927)
    .. Im not too familiar with STEP, and the way it works.. Is STEP 2 and 3 the hardest STEPS? i know theres STEP 1,2 and 3. And i know 2 of them only cover content from core, but the other one has Futher Pure in as well, which 1?? is that correct?
    A Cambridge offer will include required grades in STEP II and STEP III. It is worth looking at / practising questions from STEP I papers to get used to the type of question asked and build up confidence, but STEP I will NOT form part of a Cambridge Maths offer.

    STEP I covers A level material (both Pure and Applied)
    STEP II includes more difficult questions on A level material
    STEP III covers Further Maths material (e.g. FP1,2,3, M3,M4,M5.S3,S4,S5)

    All 3 papers currently have 13 questions (8 Pure, 3 Mechanics and 2 Statistics/Probability) - you can attempt as many as you like in 3 hours, but you are marked on your best 6 questions.

    That's probably as much as you need to know for present, but be aware that STEP expects you to have mastered the material you have learned at A level, so don't be dispirited if you look at a paper now and it makes no sense
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    (Original post by 3.1415927)
    Hey guys. I am currently in Year 12 doing Maths, Further Maths and Chemistry at college. I am looking to do a maths degree. I have a few questions.. The first being is it at all possible to get an offer from Cambridge from only doing 3 A levels and no extra AS levels (I would be doing AEA as well as STEP and might do an extended project, if that'll help?? ) ? the second being, at Cambridge am i more likely to get a lower offer if i make an open application, or in other words, am i more likely to get a place? the last question is about warwick, anyone thats doing maths there, what are the advangtages of warwick and name all possible flaws that warwick has. If anyone can answer any of my questions, that will be a big big help. thank you all
    Taking three A levels will not prevent you from getting an offer from Cambridge. Taking AEA may give you credit for showing you do extra stuff, but won't help academically.

    Like Tory88 I would suggest you don't make an open application. It has little or no effect on your chance of acceptance, and you pass up the option of choosing a college you like. But beware of applying to the most selective colleges.

    Academically I don't think there is a huge difference between the two courses. I would suggest there is also considerable overlap between the ability ranges of the students. But the difference between college life and a self-catering campus where you will live out in the second year is worth considering.
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    You talk a lot of sense ..Nice grades man! did you apply for Cambridge? do you like what warwick has to offer, in terms of the maths content, and campus? is it a nice place to live? whats the night life there like? Thanks for all of this
    Sorry for the late reply, for some reason it didn't show up as a quote.
    I applied to Oxford and I got interviews at 3 colleges but sadly none of them wanted me, I'm pretty happy at Warwick though. I really like the maths course, but I find it a bit annoying that there isn't a possibility to do 100% maths courses in the first year. This means that you have to do some others courses like statistics, physics, computer science or economics. I have taken modules from all of those departments except economics, and I find that the physics modules are very different to the maths ones, which makes them quite hard, whereas the stats modules aren't so different, and programming is fun.

    The campus is pretty nice, its a good place to work because you can always find a quiet spot in the library, maths department or halls, but there is plenty of fun to be had if you want to. There are loads of societies and they mostly meet on campus, so it is easy to get involved as a first year (if you have time!). I've already mentioned halls, but my halls (Jack Martin) have been really good, and we have the kitchen cleaned 3 times a week, and bathroom once a week, bedroom every other week, which is really good service.

    The night life is certainly not as good as in a city, the SU has pretty bad night life except on wednesdays, but the clubs in Leamington can be pretty good, though it depends what kind of music you like. Coventry night life is actually pretty decent, especially if you want to get away from it all now and again. Then of course there is Birmingham night life, but I haven't tried that. So overall a good range of places, there will probably be something you like.
 
 
 
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