15 August 2013 A-Level results: Discussion thread - results day is here!

00:01 on Thurs 15th Aug. I think.

My teacher explained that most of the time they send off an exemplar coursework and a below average coursework from the school to the examiner just to check that the teachers have marked it properly, but i think what you are asking is more likely to happen.


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Yes, because their parents' parents inherited enough money to send their kids to a superior school, the cycle goes on and harks back to hundreds of years in some cases. I'm aware of the term new-money as well. I'm aware it's not always as black and white as this, but in lots of cases it does seem to be...

But this difference exists even for children at the same school.

I agree that wealth can contribute by allowing you to buy housing in areas with better schools (although most schools are measured by their outcomes, which is a crude measure. I suspect many 'good' schools actually have equal or worse value-added than some schools in poor areas). I just don't think that wealth is one of the most significant factors in intelligence, compared to parental input, and even genes.

Yes, FSM = Free School Meals.

Do I know?

I seriously can't believe someone has a problem with private education and someone having meow opportunities than others. It's democracy not communism! What you complain about (not similar opportunities) was the same complaint in USSR and other communist parties. And communism would never work! When people earn money as wish to spend th on their children to educate them better - no one should stop them! It's perfectly fine to do it!

Hey! I know grade boundaries are released on wednesday but does anyone know what time they are released? Like at midnight or something?

I'm not talking about intelligence. I already agreed with you about intelligence. I'm talking about academic success pre-Uni (A Levels, GCSE).

Yes, you went all nitpicky and intelligent.

"What do you define...."
"I don't define...."

you knew what I meant!

It's funny, how after I typed my response I knew what your response would be!

I wasn't trying to be nitpicky. But it's a correlation - as wealth increases, so does intelligence and academic success. It doesn't really matter how you define rich and poor - if one group is richer than the other, it will be more intelligent (so long as you have a large enough and representative sample).

Oh wow those sound cool! Only 3 days? Eek, I never keep track of time in the holidays, that's not enough time to harden the soul against the bad results :L

I meant with the actual definition of rich, not the correlation.

My friend who does Computer Science there said someone who lives with him got in there through clearing last year as there are always places for pharmacy.

Plus if you go to UCAS course search for pharmacy, click on 2013 and courses avaliable to new applicants, you can see Hudds is still on there.
& the uni's on the "avaliable to new applicants" are all the ones that have either said they will be in clearing (like uea) or are usually there anyway (like ljmu). Plus the most competitive uni's for pharmacy (notts, bath, UCL, durham) aren't on the list and I know for fact they aren't going to be in clearing x

Like I said - it doesn't matter how you are to define rich or poor.

I'm sceptical of this idea of potential - surely much of our potential is a result of our parenting? Parent's who are pushy will instill positive attitudes to their children, and make them work hard. They might do worse without a guiding hand, but arguably they would still be performing better than if they hadn't been pushed in the first place. So say we measure intelligence on a crude scale of 1-10. A child is at 5, pushed to 9, and falls back at uni to a 7. Their pushy parents have still pushed them up from 5 to 7.

Like I've said before - I don't think pushy parenting is the best method, but I do think it that pushy parents tend to have above-average children.

Like I said - it doesn't matter how you are to define rich or poor.

I'll take your word for the evidence, what do you define as "poor" btw?

I always get slightly annoyed when people say rich = more intelligent because I'm probably "poor"

I held my nose when reading this, peasant.

I don't think your example or last para contradict with the point I'm making that performance may drop at univ. Based on which James was arguing that these were stupid kids who were pushed. I feel they were just kid who were pushed to perform at their potential 9 but dropped back below their full potential to 7. The 5 which is all they would have achieved if they had not been pushed to not refute my argument.