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    Hi all,

    I have offers to study ESPS at UCL (may choose to do full economics specialisation, with German) and PPE at Warwick. Whilst I understand Warwick and UCL are perceived as having equal prestige in economics, I was slightly concerned whether the ESPS (European Political and Social Studies) sounded slightly wishy washy, even though it is a four year course and you finish with a BA (vs a BSc in Warwick PPE).

    My questions, therefore, are as follows:
    1. Which degree would be better to get in to IB/Consultancy?
    2. Will the degree choices lead me to different roles within IB/Consultancy?
    3. If I do not specialise fully in economics, will a politics specialisation still allow me to enter IB/Consultancy?

    Grateful for any guidance you could provide esp. also in regards to careers/post grad study.

    Thanks
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    Hi all,

    I have offers to study ESPS at UCL (may choose to do full economics specialisation, with German) and PPE at Warwick. Whilst I understand Warwick and UCL are perceived as having equal prestige in economics, I was slightly concerned whether the ESPS (European Political and Social Studies) sounded slightly wishy washy, even though it is a four year course and you finish with a BA (vs a BSc in Warwick PPE).

    My questions, therefore, are as follows:
    1. Which degree would be better to get in to IB/Consultancy?
    2. Will the degree choices lead me to different roles within IB/Consultancy?
    3. If I do not specialise fully in economics, will a politics specialisation still allow me to enter IB/Consultancy?

    Grateful for any guidance you could provide esp. also in regards to careers/post grad study.

    Thanks
    1. Warwick no question.
    2. The PPE course would be better for all paths.
    3. Yes.
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    (Original post by Redshirt)
    Hi all,

    I have offers to study ESPS at UCL (may choose to do full economics specialisation, with German) and PPE at Warwick. Whilst I understand Warwick and UCL are perceived as having equal prestige in economics, I was slightly concerned whether the ESPS (European Political and Social Studies) sounded slightly wishy washy, even though it is a four year course and you finish with a BA (vs a BSc in Warwick PPE).

    My questions, therefore, are as follows:
    1. Which degree would be better to get in to IB/Consultancy?
    2. Will the degree choices lead me to different roles within IB/Consultancy?
    3. If I do not specialise fully in economics, will a politics specialisation still allow me to enter IB/Consultancy?

    Grateful for any guidance you could provide esp. also in regards to careers/post grad study.

    Thanks
    Ignore previous post. Never seen this guy around and he probably hasnt put a foot in a bank ever.

    1. None is better. Both universities are equally targeted by banks and banks recruit from all courses. If you are going to become fluent in German whilst at UCL then this course will be better than PPE. (Fluency in German is a big deal in a lot of IBD teams and potentially in other areas of banks like sales etc)
    2. No both can land you front office positions.
    3. No one cares about what exactly you study. Dont think economics is relevant to banking or consulting... It isnt! So just study whatever you enjoy most

    As a side note, strat consultancies dont target warwick and UCL too much. Its not impossible to get in at all but its gonna be harder han IB.
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    As Frenchous has said, Warwick and UCL have pretty much equal standing for IB recruitment, and course doesnt really matter. I would take UCL though due to London advantage.

    For consultancy, would take UCL definitely, but management/strategy consulting is known for huge Oxbridge bias (and LSE to an extent), so if you dont go to those universities you will have to work quite hard to break in.
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    (Original post by Frenchous)
    Ignore previous post. Never seen this guy around and he probably hasnt put a foot in a bank ever.

    1. None is better. Both universities are equally targeted by banks and banks recruit from all courses. If you are going to become fluent in German whilst at UCL then this course will be better than PPE. (Fluency in German is a big deal in a lot of IBD teams and potentially in other areas of banks like sales etc)
    2. No both can land you front office positions.
    3. No one cares about what exactly you study. Dont think economics is relevant to banking or consulting... It isnt! So just study whatever you enjoy most

    As a side note, strat consultancies dont target warwick and UCL too much. Its not impossible to get in at all but its gonna be harder han IB.

    (Original post by MAINE.)
    As Frenchous has said, Warwick and UCL have pretty much equal standing for IB recruitment, and course doesnt really matter. I would take UCL though due to London advantage.

    For consultancy, would take UCL definitely, but management/strategy consulting is known for huge Oxbridge bias (and LSE to an extent), so if you dont go to those universities you will have to work quite hard to break in.
    (Original post by wiill)
    1. Warwick no question.
    2. The PPE course would be better for all paths.
    3. Yes.
    Thanks for your comments.

    My major concern is that ESPS is a fairly modern course and so not sure how respected it will be, and whether the UCL/London location compensates for this. In contrast, Warwick PPE is the traditional, respected bet (location is not great) and I would be worried about throwing it away by picking a relatively new course. Have any of you heard of ESPS graduates and what their prospects are?

    Grateful for your assistance and I appreciate your honesty.
 
 
 
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