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    Some analysts say that he is more a poster child and that it's really his aunt and uncle who hold control behind the scenes, but that his father handed him the leadership because of how much he looked like Kim Il-Sung.

    But what if Kim Jong-Un didn't/doesn't even want the leadership that was handed to him?

    What if Kim fled to, say Switzerland or even the UK and explained that he was never in control and was only a poster child?

    Would he be welcomed? Given asylum?
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    A famous quote from a brilliant film.

    "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer".
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    (Original post by Raihan.)
    I wouldn't mind as long as he comes clean seeing that we all make fun of him over the Internet with them memes going viral, etc...
    Even if he does come to the UK he won't have any power or anything, he'd just be an ordinary citizen.

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    He obviously wouldn't have any power, but he'd probably be given police protection. I think there's about twenty or so North Korean refugees living in the UK (I once sent a letter to 10 Downing Street about the situation there, and it got routed to the FCO which explained some parts of it pretty well), and I could see them wanting to kill him. He'd also probably have to speak in criminal courts all over the place, and go through heavy interrogation by the MI6.

    It'd be funny if he ended up becoming an MP in the UK, unless if he is actually a spy.
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    I doubt it. Has he not spent far too much time criticizing the West? No doubt he'd be given asylum, but I can't see the UK welcoming him or being appreciative of his presence.
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    (Original post by KingMessi)
    I doubt it. Has he not spent far too much time criticizing the West? No doubt he'd be given asylum, but I can't see the UK welcoming him or being appreciative of his presence.
    Yes, but that's the thing. What if he doesn't actually retain any power and is just a poster child and it's actually his aunt/uncle.the generals who are responsible for this belligerence? Kim is also Western-educated, so I'm surprised that he's so anti-Western (or is he - when has visits from American superstars and whatnot)?
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    Why would he flee? I can already see his life ending the same way as Saddam Hussein's - on the end of a rope. He oversees a regime which contains horrors the outside world seldom hears about.

    Read about Camp 22 for example:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_22
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    (Original post by spiral87)
    Why would he flee? I can already see his life ending the same way as Saddam Hussein's - on the end of a rope. He oversees a regime which contains horrors the outside world seldom hears about.

    Read about Camp 22 for example:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_22
    Because maybe he's not in control at all? Maybe he's being coerced? Maybe he's being forced to be a poster child?
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    Some analysts say that he is more a poster child and that it's really his aunt and uncle who hold control behind the scenes, but that his father handed him the leadership because of how much he looked like Kim Il-Sung.

    But what if Kim Jong-Un didn't/doesn't even want the leadership that was handed to him?

    What if Kim fled to, say Switzerland or even the UK and explained that he was never in control and was only a poster child?

    Would he be welcomed? Given asylum?
    Probably. We have this knack of putting up with nutcases from all over the world.

    Even if they want to blow us up.
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    McDonald's would welcome him with open arms
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    Because maybe he's not in control at all? Maybe he's being coerced? Maybe he's being forced to be a poster child?
    Anything's possible. However to outsiders, the Kim Jongs are seemingly given almost divine status, that they have the power of the Gods. It's all propaganda and bull****. Just like all the rhetoric from the last few weeks.

    Kim Jong's view of the outside world is probably so twisted, they know nothing about us at all. It was all a test to see how we would react. It's the same sort of bullying tactics you saw on the playground at school. We raised a fist, but we're not gonna throw the first punch.
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    (Original post by HumanSupremacist)
    Because maybe he's not in control at all? Maybe he's being coerced? Maybe he's being forced to be a poster child?
    It is utterly ethnocentric to immediately be surprised that he is not closer to the West. Just because he was educated in Switzerland does not mean it should be the case. All evidence indicates he was with like-minded individuals the whole time, and kept a very low profile.

    Of course the Kim dynasty has been famed for succumbing to all sorts of 'Western' things, i.e. Jong-Il had a penchant for Hennessy and other alcohol. He was especially known to adore film; in fact he even kidnapped an actor and actress from Japan, just because he was such a huge fan.
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    He would be welcomed, and given a room free of charge at The Hague.
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    (Original post by spiral87)
    Anything's possible. However to outsiders, the Kim Jongs are seemingly given almost divine status, that they have the power of the Gods. It's all propaganda and bull****. Just like all the rhetoric from the last few weeks.

    Kim Jong's view of the outside world is probably so twisted, they know nothing about us at all. It was all a test to see how we would react. It's the same sort of bullying tactics you saw on the playground at school. We raised a fist, but we're not gonna throw the first punch.
    The Kim's dont know about us at all? How exactly do you think they have managed to stay in power for over sixty years? Nuclear brinkmanship has actually been immensely successful for the Kims - they have not been removed from power.
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    If he was genuine and if he was prepared to give intelligence about NK then I think he would probably be given political protection.
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    (Original post by Chadya)
    He would be welcomed, and given a room free of charge at The Hague.
    What charges would be brought to Kim as of now?
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    (Original post by jamesrobbo1)
    It is utterly ethnocentric to immediately be surprised that he is not closer to the West. Just because he was educated in Switzerland does not mean it should be the case. All evidence indicates he was with like-minded individuals the whole time, and kept a very low profile.

    Of course the Kim dynasty has been famed for succumbing to all sorts of 'Western' things, i.e. Jong-Il had a penchant for Hennessy and other alcohol. He was especially known to adore film; in fact he even kidnapped an actor and actress from Japan, just because he was such a huge fan.
    Also, in conclusion to our previous discussion, to close off that discussion:

    Sure, it's certainly the case that on average white women would prefer white males to all others - a number of factors come into attractiveness and relationships and one would go for those who are most similar to them (e.g. black with black, asian with asian etc etc).

    However, it is not the case that black and Asian females would prefer white males over all others - see the previous sentence above; one would go for those who are most similar to them/have more in common with.

    That should clear it up and we should not come to a consensus. That would seem to be a sensible rounding off, no?
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    (Original post by jamesrobbo1)
    What charges would be brought to Kim as of now?
    You can argue all you want that his aunt and uncle are at the reins of power, but that it unproven. The fact remains that he is the head of state in an autocratic, totalitarian regime with human rights abuses unparalleled elsewhere; abuses that he has done nothing to curtail.
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    (Original post by jamesrobbo1)
    The Kim's dont know about us at all? How exactly do you think they have managed to stay in power for over sixty years? Nuclear brinkmanship has actually been immensely successful for the Kims - they have not been removed from power.
    They have kept themselves to themselves, they're a very secretive nation. Yeah, they've threatened the outside world from time to time, but what goes on in NK stays in NK. And no I don't believe they understand us at all. They have a country where the majority of people live in comparative poverty, healthcare, technology etc. is far behind the western world...they'd be better off joining us rather than being against us.
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    (Original post by spiral87)
    Anything's possible. However to outsiders, the Kim Jongs are seemingly given almost divine status, that they have the power of the Gods. It's all propaganda and bull****. Just like all the rhetoric from the last few weeks.

    Kim Jong's view of the outside world is probably so twisted, they know nothing about us at all. It was all a test to see how we would react. It's the same sort of bullying tactics you saw on the playground at school. We raised a fist, but we're not gonna throw the first punch.
    He was educated for some time in switzerland, so he's not ignorant of western lifestyle.
 
 
 
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