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    Im looking to get a used car in 2 weeks or so. I debating weather to get the BMW 1 series 5 door 1.6 OR the vauxhall astra 3 door 1.6 sxi (sports hatch version not the new 5 door). i have around £7000 and want to keep the vehicle for about 2-3 years. I want the BMW (badge) but afraid the running costs will have me regretting choosing it as 1 run flat type is around £160 and service and parts may be pricey, on the other hand the astra looks good and is cheaper to insure, more on road tax but depreciates much faster than the BMW.
    What do you guys think in terms of fuel eco, servicing, reliability (2-3 years with minimal hiccups) ?????

    (P.S i have read every review possible for both cars, watched every youtube video)
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    (Original post by big1wun)
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    Im looking to get a used car in 2 weeks or so. I debating weather to get the BMW 1 series 5 door 1.6 OR the vauxhall astra 3 door 1.6 sxi (sports hatch version not the new 5 door). i have around £7000 and want to keep the vehicle for about 2-3 years. I want the BMW (badge) but afraid the running costs will have me regretting choosing it as 1 run flat type is around £160 and service and parts may be pricey, on the other hand the astra looks good and is cheaper to insure, more on road tax but depreciates much faster than the BMW.
    What do you guys think in terms of fuel eco, servicing, reliability (2-3 with minimal hiccups) ?????

    (P.S i have read every review possible for both cars, watched every youtube video)
    the astra will cost you an arm and a leg in feul though. the 1 series are more fuel eco diesels.

    personally i'd go for the one series.
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    I've got a 1.6 Astra and it uses a fair bit of fuel....and that's with my relatively boring mummy driving!

    Remember, there is more to the cost of a vehicle than simply the running costs. It doesn't sound like you have pots of money to burn to honestly, I wouldn't get either.
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    BMW.

    £160 for a tyre is quite reasonable anyway... besides when did you last have a puncture? I've had 2. Ever.
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    (Original post by big1wun)
    Hi
    Im looking to get a used car in 2 weeks or so. I debating weather to get the BMW 1 series 5 door 1.6 OR the vauxhall astra 3 door 1.6 sxi (sports hatch version not the new 5 door). i have around £7000 and want to keep the vehicle for about 2-3 years. I want the BMW (badge) but afraid the running costs will have me regretting choosing it as 1 run flat type is around £160 and service and parts may be pricey, on the other hand the astra looks good and is cheaper to insure, more on road tax but depreciates much faster than the BMW.
    What do you guys think in terms of fuel eco, servicing, reliability (2-3 with minimal hiccups) ?????

    (P.S i have read every review possible for both cars, watched every youtube video)
    servicing and possible repairs will cost quite a bit for a BMW compared to a Astra, but you could cut cost going to a reliable independent garage.

    Overall, if you could find a good reliable independent garage with a good rate...........BMW 1 series, far more comfortable to drive in, good amount of space, feels quite luxurious compared to competitors, also make sure to get a nice model with the nice extras
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    BMW is a German car, all German cars have a great reputation for their build quality.
    Even though the standard of other cars has improved vastly, imo you can't beat the quality of a German car. Second to none

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    (Original post by JamesHockey24)
    BMW is a German car, all German cars have a great reputation for their build quality.
    Even though the standard of other cars has improved vastly, imo you can't beat the quality of a German car. Second to none

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    You forgot the Japanese with Honda, Toyota, etc
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    (Original post by JamesHockey24)
    BMW is a German car, all German cars have a great reputation for their build quality.
    Even though the standard of other cars has improved vastly, imo you can't beat the quality of a German car. Second to none

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    The astra is also a German car, yet they break down all the time.
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    BMW's generally have solid reliability as most German makes are - they say if you buy a Vauxhall you'd get to know your local garage quite well...in fact most minicab drivers in my area got rid of their Zafiras and Vectras in favour of VW tourans, Passats, etc etc

    If you do go and buy an astra for that much, I'd suggest you look at the new shape (2011-present) as they've generally had a good reputation since their launch.

    Parts for the BMW are expensive, but with Vauxhalls you'd probably end up spending more, over the time you have the car as reliability records haven't been so rosy.

    I'd say buy the BMW - if you're willing to pay higher insurance premiums. You'd also save on fuel as others have mentioned and because of the badge, it's more likely to retain its value for the time you keep it.

    Good luck with your choice!

    P.s ah yes the Japanese! They've got some decent hatches, my favourite being the Civic - it looks damn good! Or if you're looking for something a bit more modest, the Toyota Auris is also good. Both are respectable brands and you'd probably pay less in running costs AND insurance compared to a Beamer
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    (Original post by JamesHockey24)
    BMW is a German car, all German cars have a great reputation for their build quality.
    Even though the standard of other cars has improved vastly, imo you can't beat the quality of a German car. Second to none

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    I agree with the previous comments that German-made cars are of virtually perfect build. You won't be able to find anything wrong with a fine German product.
    My dad bought me a BMW 320d recently; for passing my driving test to be precise, and I absolutely love it.


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    (Original post by arnishiseni)
    I agree with the previous comments that German-made cars are of virtually perfect build. You won't be able to find anything wrong with a fine German product.
    My dad bought me a BMW 320d recently; for passing my driving test to be precise, and I absolutely love it.


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    You're 17. And your dad bought you a BMW to drive straight after passing? Good luck finding insurance, even if the engine's the smallest available, insurers see 17 year olds + BMW's as a recipe for disaster...I was thinking of one for myself tbh,

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    when I'm 21, having graduated from university, found a stable, permanent, decently-paid job, and found a decent place to live.
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    (Original post by james1211)
    The astra is also a German car, yet they break down all the time.
    Vauxhall is general motors, which is amercian owned

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    Thanks guys,
    Im now more confident in going for the BMW. The insurance will be a bit more but road tax is slightly cheaper and from what all of you are saying it will be more fuel efficient and wont need to meet as many mechanics as the Astra plus holds its value come resale.

    I just saw the back of my Fiat Punto, which is now someones else's problem now and just want this next car to be trouble free ,so I'm thinking about taking out a 3 year warranty costing £750 because BMW repairs can be monstrous (if I'm unlucky enough to get a problematic 1 series) but more for the piece of mind that if something does come up, its covered or is this wasted money because BMW quality is 'tip top' ?
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    One further point...
    Given you're buying used, make sure it's had the inspection 2.
    That's the dearer one.

    If it hasn't had it then you'll be forking out £400 at a dealer. On the plus side, it might get you a car a fair bit cheaper when it comes to negotiating!
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    I'd personally never get a vauxhall again. The drink the petrol and they continuously break down. The past 6 months I have spent about £1500 getting it repaired. I have had the car since it was new so I know previous owners were not uncaring towards the car if that makes sense.

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    (Original post by ss_s95)
    You're 17. And your dad bought you a BMW to drive straight after passing? Good luck finding insurance, even if the engine's the smallest available, insurers see 17 year olds + BMW's as a recipe for disaster...I was thinking of one for myself tbh,

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    when I'm 21, having graduated from university, found a stable, permanent, decently-paid job, and found a decent place to live.
    You're right, and yes; insurance for me whilst I had my provisional was cheaper 😂 - and now it's virtually impossible - how about driving without insurance...?


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    (Original post by Vouge)
    I'd personally never get a vauxhall again. The drink the petrol and they continuously break down. The past 6 months I have spent about £1500 getting it repaired. I have had the car since it was new so I know previous owners were not uncaring towards the car if that makes sense.
    woow really, I always thought having a car from new would mean it would be solid for at least 3 years. thanks

    Vauxhall are not sounding to reliable atm and reliability is my number one priority....Next to 'The Badge'.
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    (Original post by big1wun)
    woow really, I always thought having a car from new would mean it would be solid for at least 3 years. thanks

    Vauxhall are not sounding to reliable atm and reliability is my number one priority....Next to 'The Badge'.
    Water pump went on our 2 year old Citroen C3 Picasso that's only done 16000 miles. That part usually lasts over 10 years.

    French cars aye.
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    Get the BMW, but at least buy a 118i instead. The 116i has to work quite hard (as does the 1.6 Astra) so actually uses more fuel.

    Running costs are pretty much the same - BMWs are very reliable cars and if you get it serviced / MOTd at an independent specialist rather than at the dealership then that will save you a fortune.

    Ditch the run flat tyres - most people do anyway, as they totally ruin the ride. Normal tyres on 16 inch alloys will cost you less than £100 per corner for good ones. I was £260 for a full matching brand new set of Michelin Primacy tyres on my 3 series with 16s, obviously if you get larger alloys then the price of tyres goes up.

    Buy on condition and history, not mileage. With cars like that it really doesn't matter so long as the service history is there.
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    Another couple of points that's crossed my mind... - the "savings" you make on maintaining a vauxhall will more than be negated by what you'll get back when you sell the car.
    A 10 year old vauxhall isn't worth a carrot. A similar BMW will be worth a fair bit more.

    There's a reason why it was dearer to have a vectra on finance than a 3 series back when they still made the vectras... your monthly finance bill is basically covering the cost of the depriciation - it doesn't take a genius to work out that the hateful tin boxes that vauxhall stamp out will depriciate like a stone!

    Also, try and find a car with leather. They are out there. It's SO much better. BMW cloth interiors are awful. I test drove a 116i with leather and a sunroof a few weeks back for a pal and for what it was it was a really nice little car. It wouldn't meet *my* needs, but if I were shopping for a car in that sector I'd buy one like a shot. Although as has been mentioned, I think i'd be looking at either a 118i or a 120D as a minimum really. The smaller petrol and diesel engines are indeed quite thirsty for what they offer.
 
 
 
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