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    Ding Dong the witch is dead is currently hurtling towards UK number 1 on charts. This means it has to be played on the radio (precedent was Killing in the name of christmas)

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...g-dong-1824328






    What are your thoughts on this? I know we're all thatchered out a bit so can we not let this descend into a discussion on her policies, there's loads of other threads you can go to for that. Should BBC Radio play it?

    My personal opinion on it is that we're going to be swamped in complete and utter rubbish to make Maggie seem like some sort of martyr, when regardless of her policies she's just an old lady who died. I'd rather nobody had tried to celebrate her death (especially the cabinet and their weird glorification despite making it clear they think she had bad policies) and she'd just been left to die quietly, but now that it's happening and there's the choice between letting some messed up hero worship happen or singing about it, I'm going to damn well sing.


    Update:


    It seems this song has been rising up the charts to rival the Ding Dong:




    This means we have two rival songs that will be played. One might be seen as marginally disrespectful, but as discussed below part of the wonderful perks of being prime minister is the public attention you receive and can't be avoided. I stand by my belief that all of this attention should not have happened, that the woman should have been allowed to die quietly, and that this song is also disrespectful to a time of mourning for her family. I agree that all of this should have been done when she left office.

    However, as said above I'm definitely going to support both these songs being played on the radio and think this is a fantastic portrayal of the British people being involved in politics, and given the choice between heavily biased rants for/against Maggy or a more light hearted rivalry between songs I definitely prefer the latter.
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    She was a patriot, you are a mindless dullard. Of course, you and your lefty trade unionist ilk require someone to blame for your own failings, so away you go, frothing over the death of an old woman as if it will make a difference to your worthless lives. You may sing as you wish of course, but if it inspires some to eulogize Maggie more effusively then that's okay by me.
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    Champagne socialists spending their millions on music.
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    I'm not old enough to comment on her policies or whether she was a 'great' prime minister and I don't intend to immediately research it to come to an opinion. I'm more pro-Thatcher than against however, as what she did has never been reversed and she is one of the most famous PMs we have ever had.

    Celebrating anyone's death is sickening. I wonder what the future generations will think when they look back at this period.
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    (Original post by benevansben)
    Celebrating anyone's death is sickening. I wonder what the future generations will think when they look back at this period.
    Debatable. She chose to live a public life and she has the right to be completely scrutinised. If people disagree with her as much as many in the North did, then it isn't over the top to say that they can be happy at her death.

    I don't wish to compare her to any of the recent dictators who've died and I'm not doing so, but they too were political leaders who people felt happy were dead.
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    (Original post by Hal.E.Lujah)
    This means it has to be played on the radio (precedent was Killing in the name of christmas)
    No it doesn't (precedent any number of banned songs when I was a teen)

    However, it can be played in the chart show without reference to the political issues

    Who will care really
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    We should continue to pride ourselves on basic freedoms--so if people want to celebrate, so be it, and let the others have the freedom to judge them as they please.

    I see no reason why anyone would or should censor it from radio, that would cause big political issues over freedom of media.
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    Just read she used to spend her evenings setting up arms deals for her son
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Just read she used to spend her evenings setting up arms deals for her son
    It wouldn't surprise me. Where did you read this, may I ask?
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    (Original post by Fusion)
    Just read she used to spend her evenings setting up arms deals for her son
    Can I see a source for that please?
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    (Original post by BenFranks)
    It wouldn't surprise me. Where did you read this, may I ask?
    unreliablesource.com
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    (Original post by BenFranks)
    It wouldn't surprise me. Where did you read this, may I ask?
    (Original post by Occams Chainsaw)
    Can I see a source for that please?
    John Major describes how she regularly kept him up past his bedtime:

    "I always tried to be home in time for the six o'clock news. Oh yes. But Margaret had this way of making me stay up very late while she drank three-quarters of a bottle of scotch and set up arms deals for her son, Mark. She also had a very good eye for detail. She knew Arthur Scargill's batting average to three decimal places, which impressed me no end."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2013...-lady-digested
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    (Original post by Row Z)
    Debatable. She chose to live a public life and she has the right to be completely scrutinised. If people disagree with her as much as many in the North did, then it isn't over the top to say that they can be happy at her death.

    I don't wish to compare her to any of the recent dictators who've died and I'm not doing so, but they too were political leaders who people felt happy were dead.

    That's exactly the thing, if you choose to become a prime minister you almost relinquish your right to a private life. That's not right in my opinion, but that's the way it is. Whatever way you look at it, everyone dies, and people who get all touchy about it are kidding themselves a bit.

    (Original post by thesabbath)
    She was a patriot, you are a mindless dullard. Of course, you and your lefty trade unionist ilk require someone to blame for your own failings, so away you go, frothing over the death of an old woman as if it will make a difference to your worthless lives. You may sing as you wish of course, but if it inspires some to eulogize Maggie more effusively then that's okay by me.


    :lolwut: Fair enough. People have been preparing for her death to celebrate for a long time now, and quite frankly as much damage as is done to her image as possible can only be a good thing. To paraphase Glenda Jackson, it's a tragedy that the first female prime minister was such an inept cow, ignoring everything else she set our society back culturally nearly a hundred years.

    Every problem that YOU complain about good sir, was caused directly from her term. You might want to think about that next time you say any of the following:

    Spoiler:
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    I'll therefore be voting at every opportunity for the only party engaging with the British public at large and offering policy solutions to their concerns, moreover the only party who will bring the UK out of the European Union and put an end to mass open door immigration, the UKIP.
    (Original post by thesabbath)
    "It doesn't matter who you vote for, the Government always gets in"

    Moot point whilst the EU is dictating UK policy anyway.
    (Original post by thesabbath)
    There should have been a referendum for each successive treaty that has signed away further powers. In particular: Maastricht, Amsterdam, Nice and Lisbon.
    It is shameful (treachery) that governments have forced these through without the consent of the people.
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    Unemployment among ethnic minorities costs the economy almost £8.6 billion a year in benefits and lost revenue from taxes. Half of Muslim men and three quarters of Muslim women are unemployed.
    - from this 2010 Telegraph article:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ing-point.html
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    Cut down on benefit fraud and tax evasion - a 10p tax rate for the poorest 20% would be fair and remove child benefit for all but the poorest in society
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    As a more cost effective solution, why does the council not pay for every transwtf to have a catheter and/or colostomy bag fitted? Then they won't need to suffer the perceived indignities/risks of using a public bathroom ever again.
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    Overcrowded Britain
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    This isn't about "teaching", this is about indoctrination. Does this really look okay to you all?

    "Gay Marriage in Primary Schools - the Impact of Redefining Marriage on Education" http://c4m.org.uk/downloads/schools.pdf


    It seems to me that you should despise old Maggy. In UKIP terms, she was as unpatriotic as it could possibly get. You might want to learn to speak without insults, try it in your inevitable response. I might read it then

    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    No it doesn't (precedent any number of banned songs when I was a teen)

    However, it can be played in the chart show without reference to the political issues

    Who will care really

    The only time an official song hasn't been played was Sex Pistols God Save the Queen actually, and the BBC later apologised and played it extensively. During that statement they made it clear that they wished to remain an accurate historical reflection without bias, and this is the first real test of that.


    (Original post by benevansben)
    I'm more pro-Thatcher than against however, as what she did has never been reversed and she is one of the most famous PMs we have ever had.
    Actually, every single piece of policy passed by her has been reversed, with the exception of private purchase, which has screwed the country over a bit because she plain old forgot to let the moneys go to the council as planned, meaning the houses ran out and we have an immigration/homeless problem. That's sourced from the official Conservative party website. She was a character, but everything she stood for was a terrible role model to anyone.
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    It was going to be The Guardian wasn't it? :L Haha.

    Interesting piece though, and good healthy debate in the comments.
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    (Original post by Hal.E.Lujah)
    The only time an official song hasn't been played was Sex Pistols God Save the Queen actually, and the BBC later apologised and played it extensively. During that statement they made it clear that they wished to remain an accurate historical reflection without bias, and this is the first real test of that.
    Must have been imagining Relax then



    I still think it can be played ... free speech and all that ... oppressors could always pick their own song to buy if they want to stop it ... re-buy those Military Wives
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    I'm not touchy about her death, like some are, and I'm not protesting against anyone's right to celebrate. I just don't see what it would achieve, she's been out of office for over twenty years.
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    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    Must have been imagining Relax then



    I still think it can be played ... free speech and all that ... oppressors could always pick their own song to buy if they want to stop it ... re-buy those Military Wives

    Good point, I stand corrected :five:

    If I'm honest I didn't realise you were old enough to have been a teen in 1984 :lol:
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    (Original post by Hal.E.Lujah)
    Good point, I stand corrected :five:

    If I'm honest I didn't realise you were that old :lol:
    Yeah ... I type Young

    I am one of the few people on here who actually lived through the Thatcher years

    [My views may best be expressed by pointing out that I spent my formative years living in a mining village in South Yorkshire]

    Having seen the edit in your post
    I was post-teen in 1984
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    Absolutely disgusting-for anyone's death. She was a remarkable lady and of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however the actions/words of some of these left wing people towards her death is disgraceful.
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    Let the vermin on the left have their fun. At least by their actions we can see how hypocritical the animals are.
 
 
 
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