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Both ethanol and water contain hydrogen bonds. By considering the hydrogen bonding on these 2 solvents, suggest why 2-chlorobutane is more soluble in ethanol than water


any ideas? :smile: thanks :redface:
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Original post by madfish
Both ethanol and water contain hydrogen bonds. By considering the hydrogen bonding on these 2 solvents, suggest why 2-chlorobutane is more soluble in ethanol than water


any ideas? :smile: thanks :redface:


why is NaCl soluble in water but not in non-polar solvents like benzene or toluene?
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Original post by shengoc
why is NaCl soluble in water but not in non-polar solvents like benzene or toluene?


I am not sure
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Another way to phrase the question would be: Why is the attraction between 2-chlorobutane and ethanol greater than the attraction between 2-chlorobutane and water?
Original post by Doppel
Another way to phrase the question would be: Why is the attraction between 2-chlorobutane and ethanol greater than the attraction between 2-chlorobutane and water?


I am not sure
why is it?
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Original post by upthegunners
I am not sure
why is it?


It has to do with electrostatic attractions (polarity). 3-chlorobutane is rather non-polar and would most likely form Van der Waals' bonds to other molecules.

Water, on the other han, is very polar because it's such a small molecule and has two dominant polar sides, caused by the difference in electronegativity between the oxygen atom and the hydrogen atoms (this is why hydrogen bonds are strong). Since 3-chlorobutane is non-polar, it won't be attracted to the water. You can think of it as a charged molecule trying to bind electrostatically to a neutral one.

Although ethanol also has a hydrogen bond, it is a much longer molecule than water and the CH-chain is relatively non-polar. Because of that, the polarity of ethanol is a lot less than that of water. This means that ethanol would also form Van der Waals' bonds to other molecules. Hence, the attraction between the ethanol and the 3-chlorobutane would be greater than the attraction between water and the 3-chlorobutane, since ethanol and 3-chlorobutane can form Van der Waals' forces with each other. Consequently, it dissolves more in ethanol.

This is usually summarized as:

Polar molecules dissolve polar molecules.
Non-polar molecules dissolve non-polar molecules.

Note: you might be more familiar with the term (London) Dispersion Forces than Van der Waals' forces, but it's the thing.
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Original post by Doppel
It has to do with electrostatic attractions (polarity). 3-chlorobutane is rather non-polar and would most likely form Van der Waals' bonds to other molecules.

Water, on the other han, is very polar because it's such a small molecule and has two dominant polar sides, caused by the difference in electronegativity between the oxygen atom and the hydrogen atoms (this is why hydrogen bonds are strong). Since 3-chlorobutane is non-polar, it won't be attracted to the water. You can think of it as a charged molecule trying to bind electrostatically to a neutral one.

Although ethanol also has a hydrogen bond, it is a much longer molecule than water and the CH-chain is relatively non-polar. Because of that, the polarity of ethanol is a lot less than that of water. This means that ethanol would also form Van der Waals' bonds to other molecules. Hence, the attraction between the ethanol and the 3-chlorobutane would be greater than the attraction between water and the 3-chlorobutane, since ethanol and 3-chlorobutane can form Van der Waals' forces with each other. Consequently, it dissolves more in ethanol.

This is usually summarized as:

Polar molecules dissolve polar molecules.
Non-polar molecules dissolve non-polar molecules.

Note: you might be more familiar with the term (London) Dispersion Forces than Van der Waals' forces, but it's the thing.

yes however the question was asking about hydrogen bonds not polarity

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