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    is this normal? does this happen to everybody?

    i guess i've always had problems stressing and worrying about things that other people who consider 'little' or 'nonexistant' - but cause this has always been the way i've felt, it's normal to me, so im not sure whats normal and what's not. it's only been the last year or so, during which these issues have dramatically increased, that i have contemplated the possibility of needing help.

    here's a few general examples of the kind of thoughts and feelings i have on a near enough daily basis -

    if i pass somebody in the street, and gesture/smile/make a remark to them, i'll walk away and repeat that action to myself over and over, and ridicule myself because i always think i just made myself look really stupid, and that that person is probably thinking "what a weirdo"

    i live in halls at the moment, and if the door down the corridor opens in the middle of the night, my automatic thought is that its somebody with a gun or something, looking for people to kill, and then my heart starts racing and i start sweating - and yet i'm also thinking about how ridiculous it is of me to think like that.

    i'll be in a small, locked room, like the toilet or the shower, on my own, yet if there is a noise behind me, i assume that means theres somebody else in there with me, and even if there is a mirror, i have to turn around and look myself - even though the idea of somebody having gotten into the room is preposterous anyway.

    if i make any kind of mistake, be it a social one, answering a question wrong in an exam or messing up timings for transport, i cant stop thinking about it, until i have evidence/proof that nothing terrible is going to come of it.

    really, i hit my lowest point last summer, where i would lie awake all night, shaking, sweating, heart racing, because i'd be sure there were strangers in the house or there was a fire or something.

    the thing is - most of the time, i know what im thinking couldnt possibly be true, so i really have no idea why i think like that.

    TL;DR - have horrible, unrealistic paranoia and am constantly questioning the world around me - is this normal? does this happen to everybody?
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    i dont think all that is normal, sorry. you should ask for help before it gets worse.

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    (Original post by lisa96)
    I'm slightly similar i guess, im only paranoid when i have to speak in class and im worried everyones laughing at me, or i've said something wrong, or that the teachers judging me.

    Has anything ever happened in the past thats making you always worry when your at home?

    I only have similar issues when i'm completely alone in the house. However, I often do think that my parents are going to die every time they leave the house when its dark outside, so i always get prepared incase they do die... im weird.
    not really when i think back, i can see elements of this kind of stress in my childhood - things like watching the edge of the stairs from my bed when i was a kid, because i was pretty sure something was going to come up the stairs, or rehearsing even the simplest of conversations in my head over and over and still not being happy with the way i said it :/

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    i dont think all that is normal, sorry. you should ask for help before it gets worse.

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    i dont even know how i'd go about asking for help
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    not really when i think back, i can see elements of this kind of stress in my childhood - things like watching the edge of the stairs from my bed when i was a kid, because i was pretty sure something was going to come up the stairs, or rehearsing even the simplest of conversations in my head over and over and still not being happy with the way i said it :/



    i dont even know how i'd go about asking for help
    why don't you ask at your uni? they should have someone who can help you!
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    That's not normal OP

    Anxiety is a nightmare, I suffer from it really badly and it's just exhausting. The strain that it puts on your mind is just horrible, it's literally torture.

    Please, please, please go and see your GP for advice. They've heard it all before, you're probably the 5th person that day to walk in with a 'mental health issue' (I despise that term).

    The support that I got when I opened up about my issues was brilliant, and it's why I always keep an eye out for threads like this and support the OP in any way I can. There's so much help out there, you just have to reach out.

    Promise me you'll see your GP! TSR is great for support, too. Feel free to ask anyone anything, no matter how stupid it may sound.

    Big hugs x
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    basically, all you have to do is boss it out and not give a **** about what anyone else thinks about you. This is the true way to success.
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    (Original post by TeddyBasherz)
    basically, all you have to do is boss it out and not give a **** about what anyone else thinks about you. This is the true way to success.
    I really do wish treating anxiety was as easy as just that...

    Not quite sure your advice is best, but hey ho.
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    why don't you ask at your uni? they should have someone who can help you!
    hadn't thought about them - but i have seen them before, as i needed to talk about exam requirements incase i have a panic attack in an exam, like i did during my a levels

    i know they have counsellors, but i dunno whether those are for people with diagnosed conditions or not... might send them an email some time.

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    That's not normal OP

    Anxiety is a nightmare, I suffer from it really badly and it's just exhausting. The strain that it puts on your mind is just horrible, it's literally torture.

    Please, please, please go and see your GP for advice. They've heard it all before, you're probably the 5th person that day to walk in with a 'mental health issue' (I despise that term).

    The support that I got when I opened up about my issues was brilliant, and it's why I always keep an eye out for threads like this and support the OP in any way I can. There's so much help out there, you just have to reach out.

    Promise me you'll see your GP! TSR is great for support, too. Feel free to ask anyone anything, no matter how stupid it may sound.

    Big hugs x
    last night i got like, 3 hours of broken sleep

    i might do what the other person says, and go see a uni counsellor first? cause something that scares me is going to the GP, explaining what i can to them (i have no idea how i'd word it) only to find out theres not much wrong with me/they wont do anything/they think ive wasted their time

    part of me wants help, if only to let me sleep, but part of me is holding back because i'm scared to have to admit theres something wrong with me/i dont want to see their reaction when i describe what is normal for me :/

    can i ask how you got diagnosed or how you're managing it at the moment?
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    last night i got like, 3 hours of broken sleep

    i might do what the other person says, and go see a uni counsellor first? cause something that scares me is going to the GP, explaining what i can to them (i have no idea how i'd word it) only to find out theres not much wrong with me/they wont do anything/they think ive wasted their time

    part of me wants help, if only to let me sleep, but part of me is holding back because i'm scared to have to admit theres something wrong with me/i dont want to see their reaction when i describe what is normal for me :/

    can i ask how you got diagnosed or how you're managing it at the moment?
    Sure!

    My mum passed away in 2007 and I really struggled after that. I held it in for years and I just became a state, very bad anxiety and clinically depressed. It took years to tell anyone and I mustered up the courage to see my GP in 2010.

    I was so fearful of what to say but I was just honest. I just said my life's a mess I don't know what I'm doing, I don't feel I have a purpose, I don't sleep, I'm a nervous wreck, I can't control myself and I'm terrified. My life is broken and I need help.

    He was so understanding and I walked out of there with such a weight off of my shoulders. I was given some beta-blockers (40mg Propranolol) to help with the anxiety and referred to counseling, which I did, and went for a review with my GP 4 weeks later.

    The counseling didn't work so well and we tried a few different medications to help me. I was referred to a Psychiatrist who was obviously much more specialised than my GP. I learned so much from him about myself, what I was experiencing and why I was experiencing it. He tweaked my medication to:

    300mg Venlafaxine
    150mg Pregabalin
    80mg Propranolol

    After 3 months I completely stabalised. That was 2 years back and I've never had a problem since. I just keep taking my medication and once I've finished my masters I'll look to stop taking it, but I just don't want to try withdrawing whilst I'm still studying, just in case it goes tits up.

    My best advice for you would be to see a GP first because they can connect you with the best local mental health workers/services and can also give you something to help you sleep (such as Zopiclone which I take occasionally) and for anxiety (like diazepam/valium which I also take occasionally) etc...

    Also if you're worried about it opening up to your GP, just write it on paper and give it to them Just write down exactly how you feel, just like you have done here. They can then take the time to read it, understand you, understand your problems and give you help.

    It means that you're able to let them know exactly what's wrong without putting the pressure on yourself to open up about everything right away. That's what I did when I was referred to my Psychiatrist and I think it helped a lot. There was so much I wanted to say but I knew I wouldn't be able to get it all out because I was just terribly anxious.

    I hope this helps - I'm doing coursework all night so I'll keep tabs on TSR if you want a chat, I'll be here
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    is this normal? does this happen to everybody?

    i guess i've always had problems stressing and worrying about things that other people who consider 'little' or 'nonexistant' - but cause this has always been the way i've felt, it's normal to me, so im not sure whats normal and what's not. it's only been the last year or so, during which these issues have dramatically increased, that i have contemplated the possibility of needing help.

    here's a few general examples of the kind of thoughts and feelings i have on a near enough daily basis -

    if i pass somebody in the street, and gesture/smile/make a remark to them, i'll walk away and repeat that action to myself over and over, and ridicule myself because i always think i just made myself look really stupid, and that that person is probably thinking "what a weirdo"

    i live in halls at the moment, and if the door down the corridor opens in the middle of the night, my automatic thought is that its somebody with a gun or something, looking for people to kill, and then my heart starts racing and i start sweating - and yet i'm also thinking about how ridiculous it is of me to think like that.

    i'll be in a small, locked room, like the toilet or the shower, on my own, yet if there is a noise behind me, i assume that means theres somebody else in there with me, and even if there is a mirror, i have to turn around and look myself - even though the idea of somebody having gotten into the room is preposterous anyway.

    if i make any kind of mistake, be it a social one, answering a question wrong in an exam or messing up timings for transport, i cant stop thinking about it, until i have evidence/proof that nothing terrible is going to come of it.

    really, i hit my lowest point last summer, where i would lie awake all night, shaking, sweating, heart racing, because i'd be sure there were strangers in the house or there was a fire or something.

    the thing is - most of the time, i know what im thinking couldnt possibly be true, so i really have no idea why i think like that.

    TL;DR - have horrible, unrealistic paranoia and am constantly questioning the world around me - is this normal? does this happen to everybody?
    my mind does things I don't want it too!!! all these crazy thoughts drive me crazy all the time but it has gotten better for me with time, though I don't recommend not seeing a GP, please do...but listen to this, as long as you know what you are thinking/feeling/doing is wrong there is hope


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    Sure!

    My mum passed away in 2007 and I really struggled after that. I held it in for years and I just became a state, very bad anxiety and clinically depressed. It took years to tell anyone and I mustered up the courage to see my GP in 2010.

    I was so fearful of what to say but I was just honest. I just said my life's a mess I don't know what I'm doing, I don't feel I have a purpose, I don't sleep, I'm a nervous wreck, I can't control myself and I'm terrified. My life is broken and I need help.

    He was so understanding and I walked out of there with such a weight off of my shoulders. I was given some beta-blockers (40mg Propranolol) to help with the anxiety and referred to counseling, which I did, and went for a review with my GP 4 weeks later.

    The counseling didn't work so well and we tried a few different medications to help me. I was referred to a Psychiatrist who was obviously much more specialised than my GP. I learned so much from him about myself, what I was experiencing and why I was experiencing it. He tweaked my medication to:

    300mg Venlafaxine
    150mg Pregabalin
    80mg Propranolol

    After 3 months I completely stabalised. That was 2 years back and I've never had a problem since. I just keep taking my medication and once I've finished my masters I'll look to stop taking it, but I just don't want to try withdrawing whilst I'm still studying, just in case it goes tits up.

    My best advice for you would be to see a GP first because they can connect you with the best local mental health workers/services and can also give you something to help you sleep (such as Zopiclone which I take occasionally) and for anxiety (like diazepam/valium which I also take occasionally) etc...

    Also if you're worried about it opening up to your GP, just write it on paper and give it to them Just write down exactly how you feel, just like you have done here. They can then take the time to read it, understand you, understand your problems and give you help.

    It means that you're able to let them know exactly what's wrong without putting the pressure on yourself to open up about everything right away. That's what I did when I was referred to my Psychiatrist and I think it helped a lot. There was so much I wanted to say but I knew I wouldn't be able to get it all out because I was just terribly anxious.

    I hope this helps - I'm doing coursework all night so I'll keep tabs on TSR if you want a chat, I'll be here
    thank you for so much support! honestly didnt expect this level of advice when i made the thread

    see, that's one of the things that also confuses me or puts me off to some extent is that i haven't had anything happen in my life that i could say was the cause of all this... i dunno, i feel like i need some sort of reason for all this :/

    i actually take propanolol during exams - not for anxiety though, for shaky hands, because my whole body shakes like a leaf. i dont think i take it for long enough to notice any mood difference though.

    this is definitely food for thought. sorry if i seem resistant to help somewhat, part of me really really wants it, so i know why sometimes i feel an impending sense of doom, and part of me is really scared
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    thank you for so much support! honestly didnt expect this level of advice when i made the thread

    see, that's one of the things that also confuses me or puts me off to some extent is that i haven't had anything happen in my life that i could say was the cause of all this... i dunno, i feel like i need some sort of reason for all this :/

    i actually take propanolol during exams - not for anxiety though, for shaky hands, because my whole body shakes like a leaf. i dont think i take it for long enough to notice any mood difference though.

    this is definitely food for thought. sorry if i seem resistant to help somewhat, part of me really really wants it, so i know why sometimes i feel an impending sense of doom, and part of me is really scared
    I can assure you 100% that you don't need to pinpoint it on anything! That's the worst thing you can try to do, and don't let anyone tell you it's something if you don't think it is! It's perfectly normal for anxiety and depression to be a physiological issue with chemicals/synapses/whatever in your brain/body that are just not working properly and need a little help. There's absolutely no reason for it to be based on an event, something you did, something you didn't do etc..!

    How much Propranolol do you take when you take it? It covers the physiological symptoms of anxiety well, like as you say, shaking, and also sweating, jaw jittering etc... But it doesn't cover the mental aspect. Physically you'll improve but mental you'll still be suffering. That's why I don't rate it much as an anti anxiolytic. It can help, but its use is quite limited.


    Can I ask what your thoughts on medication are? I know it can seem a bit of a scary thought. Some people are terrified of the thought, and some (like me) are quite opening to trying a medication if it will help me. And it has... I'd honestly still be shaking like a leaf 24/7 if it wasn't for medication. I don't think it should be the first line of 'defense' but it's something to consider. I tried a lot of different types of counseling a lot of times with a lot of people and it honestly didn't help a single bit. If anything it made me very frustrated and angry, I often lost my patience and threw the towel in.
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    I can assure you 100% that you don't need to pinpoint it on anything! That's the worst thing you can try to do, and don't let anyone tell you it's something if you don't think it is! It's perfectly normal for anxiety and depression to be a physiological issue with chemicals/synapses/whatever in your brain/body that are just not working properly and need a little help. There's absolutely no reason for it to be based on an event, something you did, something you didn't do etc..!

    How much Propranolol do you take when you take it? It covers the physiological symptoms of anxiety well, like as you say, shaking, and also sweating, jaw jittering etc... But it doesn't cover the mental aspect. Physically you'll improve but mental you'll still be suffering. That's why I don't rate it much as an anti anxiolytic. It can help, but its use is quite limited.


    Can I ask what your thoughts on medication are? I know it can seem a bit of a scary thought. Some people are terrified of the thought, and some (like me) are quite opening to trying a medication if it will help me. And it has... I'd honestly still be shaking like a leaf 24/7 if it wasn't for medication. I don't think it should be the first line of 'defense' but it's something to consider. I tried a lot of different types of counseling a lot of times with a lot of people and it honestly didn't help a single bit. If anything it made me very frustrated and angry, I often lost my patience and threw the towel in.
    i take 40mg just before the exam, if i can remember correctly yeah, the first time i took it, it felt really weird, like everything in my body (i normally have palpitation type events before exams) was lessened and slowed down, kinda like i'd been filled with cotton wool, but my mind was still racing

    on the one hand, i'm very open to it - i'm a med student so i think am naturally more open to medicating things, in my opinion, and i think if it's set at the right dose, it can work wonders. but i also know that certain types of medication can play with your moods and can make you feel worse, which i think could be quite dangerous for me as i already get really low points - and also i'd be wary of starting something that could do that just before exams and stuff
 
 
 
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