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    I'm definitely not a Thatcher fan, don't get me wrong, but the scenes of celebration of Thatcher's death, call it a protest at Thatcher's legacy if you want but it was a disgusting party celebrating her death, Trafalgar Square tonight seriously made me hate this country. Thatcher wasn't bloody Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini or Kim-Jon-Un. She was a politician, she made millions of people unemployed in the 1980s but that was an economic policy that most people now respect and wasn't actually entirely down to her. The wonderful unions supposedly out to protect their workers but leaving them on constant strike and holding the country to ransom probably didn't help their cause too much there.

    But I'm whilst I'm not exactly agreeing with those celebrating Thatcher's death I hold some respect for those who actually lived through and suffered directly because of her policies I retain a bit of respect for them they at least have some reason to celebrate Thatcher's death and remember the Thatcher years although for the man, and many like him, was quoted the other day as saying "Thatcher made me employed 30 years ago, I'm going to have a beer for every year I've been employed now Thatcher's dead. She ruined my life bla bla" is a sick individual and the words of Brian Blessed on Have I got News for You sum up my feelings on him "You've been unemployed for 30 years. What have you been doing you lazy *******?". The decision for you to be unemployed for that long wasn't made by Thatcher you moronic dimwitted tosser but by you - you've had 30 years to apply for jobs and even enough time to retrain yourself. That decision was made by you and your lazy attitude and conscious decision to depend on unemployment provided by the rest of society.

    The country isn't in the state is today purely because of Thatcher and even if it was celebrating her death is just plain immoral. Which brings me onto the next point I was going to make. Why was trafalgar square full of young twenty-something students who would be barely old enough to walk or maybe not even born when Thatcher left office celebrating her death. Surely there is people who your "protest" would be better aimed at. Shall we start with the Labour Party who didn't repeal a lot of the pro-Greed legislation Thatcher brought in an instead focussed on social liberal policies to keep the growing middle classes happy as well as failing to reduce unemployment to anything sensible and even creating that recession that made a lot of people unemployed. The fact are society has degenerated to the level where a former Prime Minister's death is marked by jubilant parties is sickening.

    Find something worth protesting about, rather than holding a party because an old women is dead.
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    I'm against it, obviously.

    But leave them to it, if they've been so badly affected by this and feel the need to vent their anger, then so be it. Who're we to stop them? Freedom of speech and all.
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    I couldn't agree more. I disagree with the vast majority of her policies, but to celebrate at anyone's death (save that of someone like Hitler) is disgusting and speaks more about the person doing it than whoever's actually died. Most of the people I know doing that couldn't actually name three things she did: they're merely jumping on the bandwagon. It's shameful.
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    She beat Communism and as the left have seemingly been purged of every noble value this country once stood for they react like this. I bet you can't find Tories behaving like this at the death of an adversary.
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    To comment on the younger people protesting/celebrating, the ones I know fall into 3 catagories really.

    First there's your very Left, very 'active' political types, that view her legacy as the worst possible thing to happen to Britain, that she was the anti-christ of their beliefs etc. Typically the people that define themselves as Socialists and will comment about the need for a revolution, that the bankers should all be put on trial, there should be a 95% tax rate if you earn over X etc

    The second group has some overlap with the first, and these were the hipster Left types. Who are too cool for the 'system', and will tell you the woes of the world, but aren't really active enough or informed enough to fall into the first group. Instead they'll read the Guardian in their yellow cable knit sweater while they talk about a band you've probably never heard of.

    And the final group were the uninformed spawn of the previous anti-Thatcher generation. The people that couldn't tell you 5 things she did in her time in office and the ones that couldn't tell you who Ed Balls or George Osbourne are.


    And let me reiterate, these were the people activley celebrating her death, posting jokes as soon as the knew etc. I know plenty of Left-leaning people who didn't feel the need to, despite what their private thoughts may have been, so I'm not saying all of you on that side of things fit into one of the 3 above groups. Unless you did celebrate and laugh about her death, in which case you probably do fall into one of them and I hope you're suitably offended
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    I agree too its disgraceful celebrating her death, especially as for her family this is obviously a very tragic time. Hearing Carol Thatcher on the radio i think it must be really hard to remain so defiant in the fact of people celebrating her mother's death - especially as her past few years have been riddled with illness and Alzheimers.

    At the end of the day, Thatcher did the things that previous governments hadnt had the balls enough to do (take on the trade unions, for instance) and made the changes that eventually future governments would have had to do. The mines were an ailing industry, somebody would have had to close them, albeit she did it in a harsh way but actually when faced with someone like Arthur Scargill? Unlikely you'd show any mercy.

    I dont deny that she did a lot of things wrong but its just ridiculously the way people talk about her and have celebrated her death. Its so disrespectful to the family and i cant think of anything worse than having to go through that if i was in their position.
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    Anyone who turns up are more than welcome to have a party and dance or whatever (in my opinion - although I find it disrespectful), and it seems the Police are quite happy to let them.

    However, the Police have also said that they will not tolerate any illegal behaviour. So if I'm wrong, and the various anarchist/UAF/UK Uncut groups haven't infiltrated and don't end up hijacking the party, there should be no damage, no arrests and no injuries and I will quite happily apologise for besmirching their good name.

    Here's how I see it unfolding - peaceful demonstrators (party-goers?) have a good time in Trafalgar Square, all very good-natured but the drinks flow. Slowly, the party becomes infiltrated with thugs, some with megaphones whipping up the crowd, most of the (sober) peaceful revellers drift away, but the thugs then go on to provoke the Police into a reaction (or kick off when they're not allowed in), and it all kicks off. Various other leftie scumbag mobs head for pre-arranged destinations in London and begin smashing up shops, buildings, fencing, throwing missiles at the Police and intimidating innocent people. Added to that, there's a strong rumour that several right-wing groups will also be heading for London for a punchup with the lefties.

    Possibly the "trouble" will be sporadic earlier, so that it hits the early evening news and encourages others to come along and join in, or maybe even in other cities. Police will contain it eventually, Indymedia will be full of tearful fat pink-haired lesbians and malnourished soya-****ers called "Stegs" whining about Police brutality. Some TSR users will use this opportunity to blame Thatcher and the Police for the rioting, Thatcher will be cremated next week and life will go on.

    But I could be wrong.
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    I agree. And the whole 'ding dong the witch is dead' thing disgusts me. At the same time though, I do think it should still be allowed to be played, because we should never start controlling the press for political reasons; we don't want to start going down that road...
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    Thatcher fought so hard to bring down communism and spread freedom. It'd do her an injustice to stop people being ***** in her name.
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    (Original post by tc92)
    Thatcher fought so hard to bring down communism and spread freedom. It'd do her an injustice to stop people being ***** in her name.
    You'll not I never said the party should be banned, just felt the need to express my disgust at it.
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    (Original post by The Mad Dog)
    You'll not I never said the party should be banned, just felt the need to express my disgust at it.
    Sure, not saying you were. But there've been plenty in the press advocating banning protests & that song.

    Let these morons have their moment of glory before slumping back off to doing nothing useful.
 
 
 
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