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£10 MILLION publically funded funeral for Thatcher?!?!!??!

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Original post by n00
Thats the spirit. **** minorities.



Precisely. Shouting that you represent a majority viewpoint when you don't doesn't help you. Talking and reasoning does.


oh. I see what your doing. You're implying racism on my behalf fir not embracing a minority view. You cheeky socialist left wing minority you.
Original post by MatureStudent36
Most sensible people plan their funeral. It would be interesting to see what the policing bill would've been for just a private funeral with that many VIPs attending and members of the public attending. If you take that bill, from this bill I suspect you'll find that its not that much different.

I understand that she was a divisive politician, but I'm sensing these demonstrators are just alienating their cause even further. It's not until times like this that you realise they're just a vocal minority in the first place


Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the amount of money spent on the funeral. I agree also that the protestors are alienating themselves further - I am watching the funeral at the moment and during the parade this morning, someone (presumably protestors) threw something at the horses in order to disturb them. My immediate thought was: "protest if you like, but don't be idiots about it - you're not going to help your cause."

Anyway, that was slightly off point. In short, I was just pointing out that Thatcher did organise her own funeral, in case there was any confusion/suggestion that she wouldn't have wanted anything so fancy.
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Original post by loversh
Using your argument how is holding a one off big event more beneficial than keeping people in there job to spend more money .


Who pays for the salary?
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Original post by MattKneale
Who pays for the salary?


The public sector job cuts for example . Its the same thing paying how many public sector workers or paying 10 million for one person's funeral they both generate spending in the economy further according to your argument , dont see how its different .
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Original post by MatureStudent36
You're implying racism on my behalf fir not embracing a minority view.


Nar, just getting into the spirit of the occasion. **** all minorities regardless of race, especially the disabled or even better disabled children, we need that money to celebrate the life of such a wonderful lady.
Original post by rockrunride
****ing ridiculous that anyone assosciated with Labour tuned up, let alone Miliband.


I personally think it's ridiculous that so many people on this forum have reduced Margaret Thatcher to her politics. I think it's even sadder that people put those politics above anything else, such as respect for her personal achievements or mere appreciation of her character.

If you watch the funeral, you will notice that there is comparatively little about her as a politician, let alone her politics specifically. Sure, she was a well-known, controversial political figure but she was also a woman with a family and personal life. On today of all days, people should remember those facts rather than defining her solely according to her politics. I admire those who are able to do that by attending her funeral despite political differences.
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Original post by Rascacielos
I personally think it's ridiculous that so many people on this forum have reduced Margaret Thatcher to her politics. I think it's even sadder that people put those politics above anything else, such as respect for her personal achievements or mere appreciation of her character.


So we reduce it to a celebration of soft scoop icecream and psychopathy?
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I think it's weird that any person would spend any amount of money on dead people. Surely the most economical thing to do is to just burn them? I quite like the Indian ganges river funeral thing.
Original post by Scumbaggio
This is just a big send off for a Tory hero and it truly sickens me that people are trying to portray it as actually helping the country.

I'm starting to wish for serious disorder on Wednesday.


You are aware that the funeral arrangements have been in place for years, having been first been drawn up under Blair? "Tory hero" or not, the whole thing was agreed to by the Labour government. Besides, I expect the majority of the costs will be policing and security, which would be required for essentially any form of funeral, given the number of people both attending and members of the public who came either to pay respects or protest.

Anyway, money issues aside, I thought the service was very good. The military turnout was pretty much perfect (credit to Billy Mott, as always!), and I enjoyed the lesson from the Bishop of London; very nice little stories and a moving delivery.
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Original post by Bellissima
WTF!!!! I wouldn't care if it was like a normal couple grand funeral but 10 ****ing million???? what are they doing, having her stuffed with diamonds and sticking her in a solid gold show case for the british museum?!?!?!


why are we spending so much on this???? or have i got totally the wrong end of the stick? it's bloody ridiculous if it's true!


Her family are partially paying but yes the state has funded a good chunk of it and even some supporters of Thatcher are against this. It may not be much money in state terms but to those who have faced huge 'unavoidable' cuts it's quite a smack in the face and an insult really.
Original post by HumanSupremacist
Rather, it's more like one's account balancing being -£10,000 (in overdraft) and spending an additional £100 (thereby making that account balance -£10,100).


Out of proportion by about two orders of magnitude - but of course you were obviously going to do that to highlightgrossly exaggerate your point. Actually it's more like spending £1, not £100, hence why anyone who takes the UK budget seriously doesn't give two ****s.
Original post by Rascacielos
I personally think it's ridiculous that so many people on this forum have reduced Margaret Thatcher to her politics. I think it's even sadder that people put those politics above anything else, such as respect for her personal achievements or mere appreciation of her character.

If you watch the funeral, you will notice that there is comparatively little about her as a politician, let alone her politics specifically. Sure, she was a well-known, controversial political figure but she was also a woman with a family and personal life. On today of all days, people should remember those facts rather than defining her solely according to her politics. I admire those who are able to do that by attending her funeral despite political differences.


When so many lives and livelihoods have been reduced to nothing as a result of her politics, I'm afraid it's difficult to respond in anything other than kind.

Margaret Thatcher is being afforded a publicly-funded funeral because she was a politician with far-reaching influence. The proceedings and content are neither here nor there. I'm a man with a family and a personal life and I also have a job.

I can't say I feel much admiration for anyone on the Left attending her funeral; they are the very people who claimed to represent those whose lives she ruined. There comes a point where the influence of a person becomes so devastating that it is hard to put differences aside.
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The disgusting idiots with there banners lining the sreets. What a disgrace, I am glad that they were the significant minority.

You only have to look at the photos to see those with the banners etc. are complete and utter losers.
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Original post by Hackett
The disgusting idiots with there banners lining the sreets. What a disgrace, I am glad that they were the significant minority.

You only have to look at the photos to see those with the banners etc. are complete and utter losers.


I personally think that Miliband's a loser for turning up today, but each to their own, eh?
Original post by rockrunride
I personally think that Miliband's a loser for turning up today, but each to their own, eh?


Miliband is a loser regardless of whether he shows up. Absolute half-wit. :wink:
Original post by loversh
The public sector job cuts for example . Its the same thing paying how many public sector workers or paying 10 million for one person's funeral they both generate spending in the economy further according to your argument , dont see how its different .


Public sector workers might spend their salary they've earned but the effect is limited to them. Spending £10m on a funeral attracts thousands of people who will each spend more money. How can that not make sense?
The right wingers "It's only £10m" response is hilarious. I wonder how many of them read the daily mail and are appalled and disguised when one person gets £50,000 in benefits, "its only £50,000 guys".
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Original post by Bellissima
WTF!!!! I wouldn't care if it was like a normal couple grand funeral but 10 ****ing million???? what are they doing, having her stuffed with diamonds and sticking her in a solid gold show case for the british museum?!?!?!


why are we spending so much on this???? or have i got totally the wrong end of the stick? it's bloody ridiculous if it's true!



This made my day :biggrin:
Original post by MattKneale
Public sector workers might spend their salary they've earned but the effect is limited to them. Spending £10m on a funeral attracts thousands of people who will each spend more money. How can that not make sense?


The effect is not limited to only them, your economic knowledge is poor.
Original post by DaveSmith99
The effect is not limited to only them, your economic knowledge is poor.


You misunderstood my point; your ability to comprehend English is poor.

Giving several workers a salary means they will go out and spend such money. You cannot know how they will spend it, it could ultimately go to paying off debt. It could be spend on goods and help the economy, and some will likely go back to the Government through taxation.

Holding an event in which thousands attend, and visit businesses for food and drink, buying souvenirs etc. will contribute directly to the economy. Since there are more people, the effect is greater than even all of those employed public service workers spending their money on goods.

Does that make sense? More people spending money = more money contributing to the economy.

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