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    How can we help the working class within our country prosper. I come from a family in which my dad's side is very rich( executive director), whilst my mum and my step-dad earn meager wages, she is a social worker and he a cook. So after experiencing startling different lifestyle when they split, I've come to ask how can we help the working class in our country. I don't mean handouts, I mean championing aspiration and hard work.
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    How can we help the working class within our country prosper. I come from a family in which my dad's side is very rich( executive director), whilst my mum and my step-dad earn meager wages, she is a social worker and he a cook. So after experiencing startling different lifestyle when they split, I've come to ask how can we help the working class in our country. I don't mean handouts, I mean championing aspiration and hard work.
    How about a society in which the earth's resources, or at least the productive benefits of the earth's resources, were equitably distributed? Capitalism reduces social and economic success, survival even, to a competition, a competition of winners and losers in which those with more capital easily win over those with less, those with some over those with none.
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    Maybe for starters don't patronise them by saying they're in need of help.
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    Well create jobs in industries that have a future.

    Fund apprenticeships in IT and Engineering. Create a private company that can cater to the international market.

    It is well known that the reason Germans do so well is their engineering prowess; if we were to invest heavily we could also tap into that or a similar market.
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    Create jobs, provide decent levels of education and healthcare. Make sure there is a safety net but not one that creates a welfare trap.
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    There are two main ways of doing what you are suggesting, as far as I'm aware (and this is obviously simplistic);

    1. Become a more socialist society - tax the rich heavily, try to standardise wages etc. Personally I do not like the idea of this.
    2. Artificially inject things into out current fairly capitalist society in an attempt to make it change by itself. This could mean;
    - Incentives for small business owners, to encourage entrepreneurialship and more jobs, so wages go up.
    - Incentives for people to train for less obvious professions, so that supply and demand even out.
    - Outreach projects to underperforming schools to encourage social mobility.
    - Higher education funding for everyone.
    etc.

    Most of the things in 2. already exist. The state of the 'working class' is far better now than it was even fifty years ago - it might not compare to the lifestyle of an executive director, but for most employed people it is bearable, and the opportunities and safety nets are there.

    Some people think 1. is a good idea. I don't, but that's a matter of your own political leanings, and since I've never been financially independent myself I won't go into it here.
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    The funny thing is, capitalists and a lot of Tories resent the idea of the working class receiving government support to help ensure a standard quality of life for those on lower wages. But they also resent income distribution, they don't believe the working class deserve to earn more than they do because they 'didn't work hard enough'. So what can you do?

    Vote Labour or join the party.
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    (Original post by Thriftworks)
    How can we help the working class within our country prosper. I come from a family in which my dad's side is very rich( executive director), whilst my mum and my step-dad earn meager wages, she is a social worker and he a cook. So after experiencing startling different lifestyle when they split, I've come to ask how can we help the working class in our country. I don't mean handouts, I mean championing aspiration and hard work.
    'The Working Class are not aspirational and don't want to work hard'.

    That is your implication.

    It betrays that you are conservative at heart, and ignorant in mind
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    The best way in the long term is to support grammar schools - traditionally these were always the working classes way into the elite professions.
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    (Original post by Oswy)
    How about a society in which the earth's resources, or at least the productive benefits of the earth's resources, were equitably distributed? Capitalism reduces social and economic success, survival even, to a competition, a competition of winners and losers in which those with more capital easily win over those with less, those with some over those with none.
    Spot on. Locke will be turning in his grave at the monopolies on land and produce that exist today.
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    I think being able to identify them would be a start.
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    (Original post by HistoryHistory)
    'The Working Class are not aspirational and don't want to work hard'.

    That is your implication.

    It betrays that you are conservative at heart, and ignorant in mind
    You can't champion something without it being present. Christ
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    (Original post by pandabird)
    The funny thing is, capitalists and a lot of Tories resent the idea of the working class receiving government support to help ensure a standard quality of life for those on lower wages. But they also resent income distribution, they don't believe the working class deseruve to earn more than they do because they 'didn't work hard enough'. So what can you do?

    Vote Labour or join the party.
    I support government support, but when you go to far with measures such as income distribution you can have negative effects on the supply side of the economy and can fun up a national deficit. So whilst we should have progressive taxation etc, you need to take into account the wider implications and negatives of over genourous welfare or taxation that is too harsh
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    (Original post by Oswy)
    How about a society in which the earth's resources, or at least the productive benefits of the earth's resources, were equitably distributed? Capitalism reduces social and economic success, survival even, to a competition, a competition of winners and losers in which those with more capital easily win over those with less, those with some over those with none.
    How do you generate the productive benefits without incentive for them to be generated? If we simply redistributed wealth wholly equally you would deincentivise wealth creation as you could rely on others to create wealth and yet you would still receive as much as them.
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    (Original post by Oswy)
    How about a society in which the earth's resources, or at least the productive benefits of the earth's resources, were equitably distributed? Capitalism reduces social and economic success, survival even, to a competition, a competition of winners and losers in which those with more capital easily win over those with less, those with some over those with none.
    Do you really think sharing capital equally amoung everyone will be beneficial?

    If everyone earned an equal wage, what would the be the point in achieving higher grades than someone else, when both will obtain the same wage for their future careers. Also, there would be arguments like should a doctor be on the same wage as a shop assistant? Resources/money being equally distributed would never ever work.

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    (Original post by Kiss)
    Maybe for starters don't patronise them by saying they're in need of help.
    We need to strive for a more equal society and the only logical way of doing so is to help those at the bottom to reduce the range of wealth inequality.
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    The working class get enough help from the government ... The rest is upto them
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    Top tips to help the working class thrive

    1) Increase minimum wage
    2) Provide sufficient education and training
    3) Eliminate competition from foreign workforces by preventing jobs leaving the UK and restricting foreign individuals from entering the UK.
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    (Original post by freeurmind)
    The working class get enough help from the government ... The rest is upto them
    No they don't, how does a working class entrepreneur gain capital to start a business in our economy, the banks won't lend to them. A missed opportunity for new business and further growth.
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    We need to build more factories for people to work in. Chopping wood and whatnot.
 
 
 
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