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    Speaker's remark: This is not my work, I am simply posting this on behalf of the TSR Socialist Party, I have no affiliation with them, I had no involvement in the production of this motion and it does not represent my own beliefs; so please refrain from negging me, thanks

    M156- Thatcher Funeral Motion, TSR Socialist Party
    This House condemns the decision to host what is in all but name a state funeral for Margaret Thatcher at the taxpayer's expense. It recognises that as Prime Minister, Thatcher created unprecedented levels of conflict and division within the United Kingdom, with continued attacks on vast swathes of the population, including trade unionists and the LGBT community. Given this and her continued attempts to reduce the role of the state in society, a funeral funded by all taxpayers and organised by the state is not only unnecessary and likely to cause further conflict with those groups attacked by Thatcher's government, but also fails to be a fitting memoir to her politics. Additionally, this House condemns the decision of the BBC to censor the track "Ding Dong! The Witch is Dead" in the official chart show, and again believes this is contrary to the free market views espoused by Thatcher.
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    If this was purely opposed to the taxpayer-funded funeral, I'd vote for this motion. However, I don't agree with the anti-Thatcher rant contained within so it's a no from me.
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    Am I right in saying that free marketism and censorship are 2 different things?

    Reluctantly Aye, not because of her policies but I think a private ceremony would be more apt.
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    I agree with this motion.
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    I reject the entire spirit of this motion focusing not on the positives of her tenure but solely on the negatives, a very negative attitude indeed. I also believe that as a Prime Minister who provoked a seismic shift in British politics that she is entirely deserving of this funeral (to which the Thatcher family are contributing).

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    I agree with Birchington I don't support the state spending £10 million on funerals but this motion has turned into an attack against Thatcher. There is nothing to be gained by attacking political decisions that took place this long ago. I do not agree with censorship and the song should have been played.
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    What Birchington said.

    It comes across as a mad rant rather than a serious motion, so a Nay from me.

    In any case I don't think not playing the full length of a joke music track, which didn't get to that position in the chart because it's a good song is wrong, nor was it censorship.
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    :ditto:

    It's a no from me.

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    Why should the taxpayer be forced to pay out for this when she completely divided the country. Hardly seems appropriate that we're shelling out £10 million when our services are in dire need of funding. A definite aye from me.
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    How does it make any sense to denigrate the policies of Thatcher but then criticise the BBC for not adhering to Thatcherite economics? Absurd. I don't much like the way the motion is commenting on RL politics either, as if MHoC has become a foreign country in some RL MUN. These are special circumstances, I suppose.

    Having said that, I agree with the principle of the motion. Thatcher was an enormous figure in British politics, but then so were Attlee and Wilson, both of which didn't have a state funeralite. Nothing more than a very costly PR exercise at a time of austerity for the common man.
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    Thatchers funeral should be sold because it isn't profitable, allowing competitive companies to charge an entrance fee and profit. That's what she would have wanted.

    So that's a YES vote
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    Hear hear. One wonders why some are so eager to condemn those who celebrated her death, yet do not in the same breath condemn Thatcher's systematic destruction of the nation's empathy. This funeral is far too ironic in far too many ways at far too much cost for me to give anything but an emphatic yes to this motion.
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    Absolute Aye from me.
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    I am 100% against this, this is merely an aimless rant that appears to attack everyone and everything, you also seem to think that the free market does not have censorship when in-fact it does thus it is not against the free market views Thatcher stood for.
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    (Original post by Krack)
    I am 100% against this, this is merely an aimless rant that appears to attack everyone and everything, you also seem to think that the free market does not have censorship when in-fact it does thus it is not against the free market views Thatcher stood for.
    Interesting position from a Labour MP. I wonder how much your colleagues will agree with you.

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    (Original post by Krack)
    I am 100% against this, this is merely an aimless rant that appears to attack everyone and everything, you also seem to think that the free market does not have censorship when in-fact it does thus it is not against the free market views Thatcher stood for.
    Very well said.
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    (Original post by Tuerin)
    Interesting position from a Labour MP. I wonder how much your colleagues will agree with you.
    It isn't that interesting, this is a poorly thought out motion and if it were purely about the state paying for the funeral then I'd agree however it is an aimless rant.
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    (Original post by Krack)
    It isn't that interesting, this is a poorly thought out motion and if it were purely about the state paying for the funeral then I'd agree however it is an aimless rant.
    The aim of the criticism of her divisiveness is presumably to explain why a very costly, taxpayer-funded funeral is inappropriate.

    It's an interesting position to take since most Labour MPs will probably support the motion.
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    (Original post by Birchington)
    If this was purely opposed to the taxpayer-funded funeral, I'd vote for this motion. However, I don't agree with the anti-Thatcher rant contained within so it's a no from me.
    Then I take it you don't agree with the Ad-Hoc article I submitted?


    Anyway - aye: Atlee and Wilson were enormous figures in UK politics and didn't get a state funeral, while it is not the position of the bbc to censor the charts - regardless of the intent behind the mass-buying, it reached the position it did out of merit and should not be subject to censorship.
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    Absolutely not because of the reasons already mentioned above—a typical attempt to make an anti-Thatcher attack sound reasonable. Disregarding that, I would oppose anyone's £10 million funeral. People spend far too much on ceremonies, especially those that are funded by the taxpayers.
 
 
 
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