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    So we take an island and give it the basics for living - shelter, resources for farming/fishing, tools, etc.

    We would then transport criminals (probably the most serious) there and leave them to fend for themselves with no chance of escaping. They could either construct a cohesive society and use the tools to stay alive or die through their own violence, failure to farm the land, etc.

    They would have the freedom to live how they wanted on the island, but would obviously not be subject to the protection of the state from other criminals or their own failure to sustain themselves.

    It is a silly hypothetical scenario and a bit Hunger Games-like, but what are your thoughts?
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    Whats going to stop friends and family to get a boat and go and bring these people back?
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    Actually think that's a mint idea. Long as they don't team up and take over the world. xD

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    (Original post by College_Dropout)
    Whats going to stop friends and family to get a boat and go and bring these people back?
    By 'no escape' I mean there would be proper things in place to stop them escaping (perimeters which alert a warship in the area or whatever).
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    For people like paedophiles, serial rapists and murderers etc then that wouldnt be a bad idea.

    However what if someone is wrongly convicted?
    What would families say about this?

    There would be a danger of it starting out with serious criminals then turning into a 'convenient place to remove anyone who's trouble'
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    So basically Arkham City?

    Might as well just cut out the middle man and have the death penalty...
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    What do you do with the inevitable 'Apex Criminal' who kills/enslaves all the others?

    "We're sorry Mrs Jones. The man who killed your children now sits atop a throne of skulls on a hospitable island, his needs covered by the state"

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    (Original post by HouseLannister)
    So we take an island and give it the basics for living - shelter, resources for farming/fishing, tools, etc.

    We would then transport criminals (probably the most serious) there and leave them to fend for themselves with no chance of escaping. They could either construct a cohesive society and use the tools to stay alive or die through their own violence, failure to farm the land, etc.

    They would have the freedom to live how they wanted on the island, but would obviously not be subject to the protection of the state from other criminals or their own failure to sustain themselves.

    It is a silly hypothetical scenario and a bit Hunger Games-like, but what are your thoughts?
    Last time someone did that it boomed into a country now known as Australia.

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    Only downsides I see are that the kingpins would hardly be being punished, getting to rule a society by their rules would be a wet dream for some of them.

    Obviously this could never happen, but if it could and there were proper regulations for who gets sent there and that sort of thing, why not? Put some cameras and crap up there and it could finance itself as a reality TV show and psych experiment, and if the criminals start behaving too badly we could just refuse to give them any aid and they'll die anyway.
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    Didn't Britain have something like that during the British empire days, they used to use Australia as a place to send those people and others as well.

    They also forced people to join the army and fight, but also rehabilitate them as well through army discipline and shock of combat across the world.
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    (Original post by kunoichi)
    For people like paedophiles, serial rapists and murderers etc then that wouldnt be a bad idea.

    However what if someone is wrongly convicted?
    What would families say about this?

    There would be a danger of it starting out with serious criminals then turning into a 'convenient place to remove anyone who's trouble'
    Harsh - but it wouldn't directly be the state's fault if the person died because they could not fend for or protect themselves.
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    Long as there's beer and sunshine its all good fellas

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    (Original post by Steevee)
    Only downsides I see are that the kingpins would hardly be being punished, getting to rule a society by their rules would be a wet dream for some of them.
    Going from being a gangmaster in Hackney to gangmaster on a primitive island wouldn't really be a wet dream I imagine!
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    (Original post by HouseLannister)
    Harsh - but it wouldn't directly be the state's fault if the person died because they could not fend for or protect themselves.
    No but if someone was innocent subjecting them such a brutal way of life would be wrong.
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    (Original post by HouseLannister)
    Going from being a gangmaster in Hackney to gangmaster on a primitive island wouldn't really be a wet dream I imagine!
    Really? In Hackney there would still be people to answer too, bills to pay, Police to fear. There it would be your society if you ruled it, free from the worries and judgement of wider society.

    Obviously it wouldn't be for everyone, but for some it would be perfect. That's not too much of a worry for me though, as long as their leader keeps them in check.
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    (Original post by kunoichi)
    No but if someone was innocent subjecting them such a brutal way of life would be wrong.
    Not too dissimilar to prison! Granted, a more extreme example but for many prison can be a brutal way of life.
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    I suppose it worked for Australia.

    I am a fan of the Panopticon myself.
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    (Original post by HouseLannister)
    Not too dissimilar to prison! Granted, a more extreme example but for many prison can be a brutal way of life.
    If you chuck them all together on an island you have no control over any torture, violence or rape that may happen. Worse than prison.
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    Hopefully they'd turn it into a reality tv show, with the christmas special being "Criminals vs The Cast of Towie vs The Cast of Geordie Shore".
 
 
 
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