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    Hi I have already picked my A levels maths, physics, chemistry and economics however I enjoy maths and after finding out I got an A* today in my maths gcse am really considering taking furthermaths. My preferred sixth form say that I can change my options up until may when next years timetable is done so I haven't got that long to decide. My exam grades which I have taken from my yr 10 results and CAs are: physics a*, Chemistry a*, biology a/a* border, economics a*, German b/a and English a/a*. I know my current results are pretty decent but I have heard stories of straight a* stundents not coping at a level and so don't want to end up like them. Also I have heard that unis don't like people with only four as subjects including furthermaths as it is not diverse enough, is this true?
    would appreciate any advice.
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    With your predicted grades you'll probably be fine... I didn't even get an A* in GCSE maths and at AS I did maths/further maths/computing/english/physics without any horrendous difficulties. If not, they'll let you drop one after a few weeks if you're struggling. It's more work than GCSE but you're not going to be up until 2am every night working.

    If you're applying for a maths-related course like physics, economics etc. (which seems likely judging by your subjects) then they won't mind you having maths and further maths with only two others at AS. 4 As looks better than 2 As and 3 Bs, after all.
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    (Original post by Randomz96)
    Hi I have already picked my A levels maths, physics, chemistry and economics however I enjoy maths and after finding out I got an A* today in my maths gcse am really considering taking furthermaths. My preferred sixth form say that I can change my options up until may when next years timetable is done so I haven't got that long to decide. My exam grades which I have taken from my yr 10 results and CAs are: physics a*, Chemistry a*, biology a/a* border, economics a*, German b/a and English a/a*. I know my current results are pretty decent but I have heard stories of straight a* stundents not coping at a level and so don't want to end up like them. Also I have heard that unis don't like people with only four as subjects including furthermaths as it is not diverse enough, is this true?
    would appreciate any advice.
    thanks
    The only place I have ever seen an additional A-Level as a desirable option is NatSci at Cambridge, but who am I to say? I do 5 myself, but many of the subjects feed into each other. The AS Further isn't as hard as it's made out to be
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    Is it also true that you do the whole maths course in yr 12 and the further course in yr 13? Would that mean I didn't miss any free periods to do hw etc?
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    (Original post by Randomz96)
    Is it also true that you do the whole maths course in yr 12 and the further course in yr 13? Would that mean I didn't miss any free periods to do hw etc?
    I have friends in further maths and while I only do normal, they do have frees. It is just an extra few hours a week.
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    You don't sound as if you will struggle with the workload, so I would do it.

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    Unis only look at the first 4, if you are planning on showing off, it won't work...
    this sounds quite subjective
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    (Original post by Randomz96)
    Is it also true that you do the whole maths course in yr 12 and the further course in yr 13? Would that mean I didn't miss any free periods to do hw etc?
    That depends on your sixth form - many do, though mine run parallel
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    I took further maths along with normal maths, physics, english lit and french, and while it meant I had far less frees throughout year 12 and it was a little bit more of a struggle to socialise, I'm really glad I took it in the end! I'm in year 13 now having dropped french, this year has been so much easier in comparison and even though it was a struggle last year, I still had enough free time for myself and came out with AS grades I was really happy with.

    I'd say apply to take it and stick with it if you feel you can handle it after a few weeks having a go at it, with your grades I'm sure you're more than capable of doing it well there are gonna be tough times but it's all worth it!


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    Getting A*'s at GCSE doesn't always necessarily predict you will do well at A-level. This is quite a big jump and you might find it overwhelming.

    Your only advantage is that your subjects work in your favour, as many are maths/scientifically based. Presuming you drop a subject at A2, you could always try to pick up the extra AS then.

    I have heard that unis don't like people with only four as subjects including furthermaths as it is not diverse enough, is this true?
    That depends on the university. However i would disagree with that comment. Why would you apply for a maths course with humanitarian A levels combined with Maths, when science subjects would be more beneficial. If you make yourself too diverse it could turn out for the worse, if you know what you want to do at university, then i personally would begin to specify in that area. Its why we have the education system we do.

    Year 7 - 9 = Normally all subjects
    Year 10 - 11 = GCSE's (less subjects)
    Year 12 = AS (Less subjects, normally 4 but can be 3 or 5)
    Year 13 = A2 (normally same as AS but with one dropped)
    University = Specific course

    Its ultimately up to you though, nobody can predict how you will cope at AS.
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    (Original post by Randomz96)
    Is it also true that you do the whole maths course in yr 12 and the further course in yr 13? Would that mean I didn't miss any free periods to do hw etc?
    It depends on the sixth form, my school doesn't do that. Further Maths doesn't take up as many periods as a normal A Level slot so whilst you'll have fewer free periods than those doing 4, you'll still have some.
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    I did bio, chem, phys, maths and further maths AS and although I hated the m1 module we did, somehow managed to get A's in all of them. I would say that it is a big commitment - the hmks are stressful and you get less frees then everyone, but, if you're organised and like maths then go for it. The class sizes are also smaller than other subjects (we had 7 in out class!). Unfortunately, I'm not that big a fan of maths so didn't enjoy it at all, but I'm proud I stuck with it.
    My school lets you drop out at any time and you can also do only a couple of modules if you want to. Unis don't use it, most just count it at maths because everyone does different module, but, if you carry it on for A2, they can include it in your offer. My friend's doing economics and Cambridge gave her an offer including an A in further maths.
    So, I would say, if you enjoy maths, go for it. If you don't, it could be a bad decision, although, some of my friends didn't do it at AS and now they're doing the AS in year 13 for various reasons and wish they'd done it a year ago. If you're really not sure, sign up for it and trial it for a couple of weeks before you decide whether to stick with it.
    Hope that helps!
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    (Original post by Randomz96)
    Hi I have already picked my A levels maths, physics, chemistry and economics however I enjoy maths and after finding out I got an A* today in my maths gcse am really considering taking furthermaths. My preferred sixth form say that I can change my options up until may when next years timetable is done so I haven't got that long to decide. My exam grades which I have taken from my yr 10 results and CAs are: physics a*, Chemistry a*, biology a/a* border, economics a*, German b/a and English a/a*. I know my current results are pretty decent but I have heard stories of straight a* stundents not coping at a level and so don't want to end up like them. Also I have heard that unis don't like people with only four as subjects including furthermaths as it is not diverse enough, is this true?
    would appreciate any advice.
    thanks
    It really depends on what you want to do at University. If you are pretty sure that you want to study Maths, Computer Science Engineering, Physics or another very Maths/ Science-y subject - then I would highly recommend taking further maths as it will really help your application (Universities love Further Maths if it is relevant or helpful to the course you want to do). If you are thinking of studying Economics at Uni then Further Maths would also help there.

    If you are thinking more along the lines of Biology, Medicine, Pharmacy, or doing an Arts or Social Sciences degree then there really isn't any need to have Further Maths. For those subjects, Universities will only really be looking at your other 4 choices.

    Alternatively, you could just take 5 AS levels. People have done it before and coped. People have done it before and struggled. It's hard to say what category you may slot into, and the people who would know the best are probably your current teachers.
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    Thanks for all the responses. Really helped I think I will do all 5 as levels and will drop the one I enjoy least if it becomes too difficult. At my sixth form I have to carry further maths and maths through to a2 level so am thinking I will drop chemistry for yr 13 leaving me only 4 a2 levels which should be manageable
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    (Original post by Randomz96)
    Hi I have already picked my A levels maths, physics, chemistry and economics however I enjoy maths and after finding out I got an A* today in my maths gcse am really considering taking furthermaths. My preferred sixth form say that I can change my options up until may when next years timetable is done so I haven't got that long to decide. My exam grades which I have taken from my yr 10 results and CAs are: physics a*, Chemistry a*, biology a/a* border, economics a*, German b/a and English a/a*. I know my current results are pretty decent but I have heard stories of straight a* stundents not coping at a level and so don't want to end up like them. Also I have heard that unis don't like people with only four as subjects including furthermaths as it is not diverse enough, is this true?
    would appreciate any advice.
    thanks
    5 AS Levels is TOO MUCH. BELIEVE ME.

    I did this two years ago, and it really impacted my grades.

    By doing 4 AS Levels, instead of 5, you will be less stressed; less tired; and will even have a better chance of success. It doesn't matter how many AS's you take. You only need a minimum of 3 A-Levels, and in all honesty, 3 is quite a lot.

    By taking 5 AS Levels, not only did I 'flop' but it also had an impact on my UCAS application. My teachers did give me a high prediction for A2, and after realizing my failure and my second chance, I absolutely worked my socks off. I really miss year 13

    My advice to you is to just stick to four. In the end, A2 is what matters, but AS is the main stepping stone to everything. To UCAS applications and for your A2 as a whole.

    Please give me positive reputation, as I am new to the forum and don't have positive reputation. I would really appreciate that.
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    So how did your AS levels go? Did it go good, were 5 really hard?
 
 
 
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