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Original post by fudgemuffins
Unless it's first thing in the morning, no you can't. I certainly wouldn't.


If men can always control when they get erections, why do they moan that they get them at awkward times...?
Original post by slade p
u cant do that becoz then it wud b blatant racism which we all know u lot r wont do becoz ur atleast sensitive these days of not been seen as racists, atleast in public, the internet give u a degree of anonymity. every1 knows by now those of u who r closeted racists do it in a sutle way.


I'm sorry but if anyone in this thread is racist it is you.

People are trying to give you valid arguments and statistics but all you want to talk about is how much in your opinion British people hate Indians. Also maybe people would listen to your views more if you actually learn how to use proper words.

This thread will never lead anywhere because you are blinded by your own prejudice.
Original post by therisenmitten
I also like http://www.ihollaback.org/ which focusses on street harassment.
I've had similar things happen to me and it's sad to see that it is a regular occurrence for most people especially women. The proof that something is wrong in our society is that these attacks are just too minor and frequent to report compared with other assaults.


Street harassment is a big thing as well, at uni I only ever walk the path on the one way system if it's against the flow of traffic so I don't get curb crawled, even if it means it'll take me longer to get where I'm going. I will definitely save that into my favourites though.
It really does upset me that me and a bunch of my friends have all lost count of the amount of times something has happened to us that would fall under the definition of sexual assault. And the amount of times I've been told 'But it's not really, he only touched your boob for like 2 seconds'.
Original post by minimarshmallow
I agree with this and I do think male rape/sexual assault victims need recognising and targeted support.
However, in general (this counts for male and female victims, but I'm going to talk about it from the perspective of a female victim because that is my first hand experience), a lot of people don't even know what counts as sexual assault. When a random man in the street walked up and squeezed my boob, that was sexual assault. A guy in a club that slipped his hand up my skirt to stroke my legs, sexual assault. Guy on a train who pinched my bum, sexual assault.
I think these statistics are underestimated for both male and female victims, and that is one of the saddest things I've heard. The Everyday Sexism project really highlights it, and although they get more submissions from women than men in general, they don't ignore the men! It's really eye opening and really sad.


Of course a butt slap is nowhere near on the scale of a forcibly penetrated butt, but to belittle the minor things would be like saying "getting major stab wounds isn't nearly as bad as being murdered, therefore it isn't a problem". Nope, I absolutely agree with you, it's a problem that people don't realise that touching another person without their consent is not okay.

I've seen people talking about this all ways round - women touching women, women touching men, men touching women, men touching men... One thing that stands out is how often if the assaulter is questioned that they don't think they did anything wrong - and that's one hell of an issue.
Original post by minimarshmallow
Street harassment is a big thing as well, at uni I only ever walk the path on the one way system if it's against the flow of traffic so I don't get curb crawled, even if it means it'll take me longer to get where I'm going. I will definitely save that into my favourites though.
It really does upset me that me and a bunch of my friends have all lost count of the amount of times something has happened to us that would fall under the definition of sexual assault. And the amount of times I've been told 'But it's not really, he only touched your boob for like 2 seconds'.


Same here, twice since I've started uni I've been curb crawled to the extent where they man/men have told me to get in the car after I've ignored them and they even started to get out (at which point I ran).

It is also annoying when I'm just in the supermarket or something and a creepy guy won't leave me alone and keeps making seedy comments. That website has a good point which is that "if it makes you feel uncomfortable, you don't have to take it as a compliment".
Original post by slade p
here's for every self righteous person in u.k who wants to talk bout how bad rape is in other countries despites u.k having a higher rate of rape.

in January 2013, the Ministry of Justice (MoJ), Office for National Statistics (ONS) and Home Office released its first ever joint Official Statistics bulletin on sexual violence, entitled An Overview of Sexual Offending in England and Wales.


Approximately 85,000 women are raped on average in England and Wales every year

Over 400,000 women are sexually assaulted each year

1 in 5 women (aged 16 - 59) has experienced some form of sexual violence since the age of 16.




85,000 ****ing hell... I suppose this includes sex trafficked workers too. 400,000 seems a bit high, I'm not really sure what sexual assault means compared to rape, can anyone enlighten me on the difference?
Original post by lightburns
Of course a butt slap is nowhere near on the scale of a forcibly penetrated butt, but to belittle the minor things would be like saying "getting major stab wounds isn't nearly as bad as being murdered, therefore it isn't a problem". Nope, I absolutely agree with you, it's a problem that people don't realise that touching another person without their consent is not okay.

I've seen people talking about this all ways round - women touching women, women touching men, men touching women, men touching men... One thing that stands out is how often if the assaulter is questioned that they don't think they did anything wrong - and that's one hell of an issue.


I agree, and I think teaching people that these things are not ok could reduce the amount of more serious assaults.
Reply 87
Original post by kunoichi
For god sakes look at the difference in population when comparing India and Britain.

India has an enormous population compared to the UK and this combined with other facts such as India's tolerance to sexual assault/rape on women being the 'norm' and an extremely low conviction rate points to a very high probability that unreported rapes will be far higher.


well we dont knw how much unreported rape there is jus like in u.k we dont knw hw much unreported rape goes on. no1 can say nething on that. uk has low conviction too.

but of the rapes which r registered, we know the rate of rape in u.k is 15 times higher then india. 28 per 100,000 in uk and 1.8 per 100,000 in india which still means india has more OVERALL numbers of rape but its better to have lower RATE of rape since that takes into account the population of a country which overall numbers dont.
Original post by lightburns
Of course a butt slap is nowhere near on the scale of a forcibly penetrated butt, but to belittle the minor things would be like saying "getting major stab wounds isn't nearly as bad as being murdered, therefore it isn't a problem". Nope, I absolutely agree with you, it's a problem that people don't realise that touching another person without their consent is not okay.

I've seen people talking about this all ways round - women touching women, women touching men, men touching women, men touching men... One thing that stands out is how often if the assaulter is questioned that they don't think they did anything wrong - and that's one hell of an issue.


I'm definitely not saying they're on the same level. They are referred to as something else and carry different sentences etc. but it is still an issue that we need to tackle. I'm a big fan of the ads that let people know that her being your girlfriend isn't consent (again going at this from a female victim perspective, but I am in no way ignoring the male victim) but I really think that they need to push more into the problems of touching. Because I've heard so often 'boys will be boys' and 'it's only a pinch on the bum, just get over it' and it is not acceptable.
I was sexually assaulted at least 3 times in my final year of high school, and only one of them was reported to senior management, and that's because it was a more serious one, he pretty much tried to remove my underwear in front of the entire IT department's teaching staff. One member of staff reported it, and it went no further than that, because he didn't actually manage to remove my underwear or anything. Sorry, how close does he have to get his fingers to my vagina before it's wrong?

I'm pretty sure I heard he raped at least one girl, and still thinks he didn't do anything wrong, I might be wrong though, it might have one of the other guys...
Reply 89
Original post by ss_s95
Either you're incredibly brain-damaged or you're possibly the most pathetic troll on this site. Not helped by the typing...

The minority of rape cases often go unreported in Britain, whilst this is a majority in India. As I said, it's the culture and (what Kunoichi said about attitudes towards rape). And it's also a matter of how effective law enforcement is - Indian law enforcement is incredibly corrupt, so a sizeable bribe would make the case "disappear".

We know rapes are unreported because NGO's and other agencies speak to those from lower-income backgrounds, such as those in deprived areas of cities, as well as villages. Women from those backgrounds do speak out - but police's ineffectiveness to even register the damn cases mean that women have nowhere else to turn to and suffer in silence. Unless you have the means or the support, there's little that gets done. At least in Britain the attitude towards such incidents is much better

You still haven't answered my question - why are you setting a different standard for the UK compared to other countries?

I call troll


i answered you incase ur too dumb to realise. which is no1 knws how under reported rapes are, but my point incase u missed it is that under reported n low conviction also happened in u.k.

u said minority in u.k in under reported lolll. how do u knw that? did u jus pull that empty statement out of thin air? becoz u cnt prove can u?

all ur doing is guessing about stuff, u have no facts thats y u dont have any factual statistics. ur jus making blanket statements.
Original post by therisenmitten
Same here, twice since I've started uni I've been curb crawled to the extent where they man/men have told me to get in the car after I've ignored them and they even started to get out (at which point I ran).


I've had one so bad that they curb crawled the girl in front of me who was with her boyfriend, then when he told them to get lost they stopped and waited till I was next to the car and started whistling at me and asking me if I wanted to get in. I phoned security there and then and gave them their registration and I don't think they've been seen since, at least not in that car.
I've had a taxi driver both curb crawling me to a disgusting level, but also not looking where he was going and then almost hitting a pedestrian on a crossing.

It is also annoying when I'm just in the supermarket or something and a creepy guy won't leave me alone and keeps making seedy comments. That website has a good point which is that "if it makes you feel uncomfortable, you don't have to take it as a compliment".


There's a guy that lives in the flat opposite me who keeps complimenting me, but not on my hair or something innocent like that, but on my tits and my ass. I've said if it happens in the presence of someone else who'll vouch for me, I'm letting security know about that as well.
Original post by slade p
i answered you incase ur too dumb to realise. which is no1 knws how under reported rapes are, but my point incase u missed it is that under reported n low conviction also happened in u.k.

u said minority in u.k in under reported lolll. how do u knw that? did u jus pull that empty statement out of thin air? becoz u cnt prove can u?

all ur doing is guessing about stuff, u have no facts thats y u dont have any factual statistics. ur jus making blanket statements.


How do you know it's not true?
You don't have data on unreported rapes either.

Since there is no data the guy was using cultural differences as a valid argument.

p.s your writing is still god awful
Original post by minimarshmallow
I'm definitely not saying they're on the same level. They are referred to as something else and carry different sentences etc. but it is still an issue that we need to tackle. I'm a big fan of the ads that let people know that her being your girlfriend isn't consent (again going at this from a female victim perspective, but I am in no way ignoring the male victim) but I really think that they need to push more into the problems of touching. Because I've heard so often 'boys will be boys' and 'it's only a pinch on the bum, just get over it' and it is not acceptable.
I was sexually assaulted at least 3 times in my final year of high school, and only one of them was reported to senior management, and that's because it was a more serious one, he pretty much tried to remove my underwear in front of the entire IT department's teaching staff. One member of staff reported it, and it went no further than that, because he didn't actually manage to remove my underwear or anything. Sorry, how close does he have to get his fingers to my vagina before it's wrong?

I'm pretty sure I heard he raped at least one girl, and still thinks he didn't do anything wrong, I might be wrong though, it might have one of the other guys...


Oh I know you're not saying that, it's just that that's the most likely thing to be said against it. I was pre-empting other people's replies - as you put it, "it's only a pinch on the bum, just get over it".

Nothing happened after it being reported? I'm pretty sure that the people (two people, on different occasions) who touched me in a minor way non-consensually at the fetish/sex club I go to were banned, as I saw them being talked to and never saw them there again, and I never even made a complaint. Your school needs to upgrade to the sexual morality of a sex club.
Reply 93
I thought it would be like 100 not 85,000

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Reply 94
Original post by therisenmitten
People don't often "suspect" rape at all.
Of course victims of false accusation deserve support, but the facts are that there just aren't that many of them as actual rapists (and certainly not ones who get prosecuted).

The attitude that there are many false accusations leads to people not believing the stories of genuine victims leaving them scared to report being raped in case they are accused of lying.


Actually, the number of false rape allegations are likely to be much higher. But I can't reach my statistics as I'm on my blackberry so disregard that point. Personally I believe that the notion of many false rape allegations just leads to cases being more scrutinised leading towards better and fairer trials.
Original post by lightburns
Oh I know you're not saying that, it's just that that's the most likely thing to be said against it. I was pre-empting other people's replies - as you put it, "it's only a pinch on the bum, just get over it".

Nothing happened after it being reported? I'm pretty sure that the people (two people, on different occasions) who touched me in a minor way non-consensually at the fetish/sex club I go to were banned, as I saw them being talked to and never saw them there again, and I never even made a complaint. Your school needs to upgrade to the sexual morality of a sex club.


Yeah, I was making it clear that I agreed with you :smile:

Oh yeah, my school was terrible. Out of all of the IT teaching staff, only my IT teacher that I was pretty close with because I was a member of her extra-curricular IT club actually reported it, and then I never heard anything. Senior management never contacted me, she never mentioned if they'd contacted her and he was still in school as normal, not even a detention.
They've sharpened up since. Someone pinched the bum of a teacher about 2 years later and they were out the door before she made it up the stairs to the staff room.
Reply 96
Original post by slade p
i answered you incase ur too dumb to realise. which is no1 knws how under reported rapes are, but my point incase u missed it is that under reported n low conviction also happened in u.k.

u said minority in u.k in under reported lolll. how do u knw that? did u jus pull that empty statement out of thin air? becoz u cnt prove can u?

all ur doing is guessing about stuff, u have no facts thats y u dont have any factual statistics. ur jus making blanket statements.


You probably didn't see the question. Let me make it more accessible to you.


FAM, y u got difrant standard fr da uk n difrant standrd 4 evrywer els?

Beyond that, I'm not arguing with you anymore. You're setting double standards and relying on inaccurate statistics. Bye
Original post by slade p
these statistics shows how bad the situation in the u.k in for women. 1 in 5 woman(aged 16-59) in u.k have experienced sexual violence.

does any1 even care? nooooooooo they donttt

ppl in this hypocritcal country are more concerned bout rapes in other countries then in their own. and its not even genuine n sincere. most of these kind of ppl like "some random guy" only do it to bash other countries becoz there closeted racists, who need to be exposedd. no suprise hes from bristol, a city where the bbc made a documentary on racism there.


Actually I know plenty of people who care, I know I do. My best friend is a proactive campaigner.
Reply 98
Don't forget boys and men.
Original post by deathhead
85,000 ****ing hell... I suppose this includes sex trafficked workers too. 400,000 seems a bit high, I'm not really sure what sexual assault means compared to rape, can anyone enlighten me on the difference?


Sexual assault can be such as forcing a person to watch pornographic images, masturbate etc according to the training I've just done at work.

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