Homosexual Parenting

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet and I don't have time to read through...

Every single child parented by a gay couple is wanted and fought and planned for. Whether through IVF, surrogates, adoption etc (apart from couples where one partner has had a child in a heterosexual relationship before forming a homosexual one.)

So many hetero couples get pregnant by accident, not in a stable relationship, not in a healthy environment, not financially stable etc.

Just one point of many for gay parenting.

The laughs never stop with you. You cite lifesitenews as a credible source of information. Whatever next? Pravda? High Times?

Thank you for the copy and paste job. Now you can get started on explaining why gender in respect of marriage is a "relevant characteristic" (in the Hartian sense) for public policy, and race is not?



Your ideas are ignorance-based, but you don't hear me whining about it.

You say that my idea's are ignorant yet accuse me of copy and pasting? Typical Ad Hominum.

You certainly present a case for enforcing some restrictions on who can and cannot procreate but Western civilization

This has nothing to do with the rights of the child. Everything you said is to do with the rights of the homosexual couple: eg 'They' are committed parents ==> 'They' should be allowed to adopt

It is wrong for the rights of homosexuals to be placed above those of innocent children.

You certainly present a case for enforcing some restrictions on who can and cannot procreate but Western civilization is not in the mood for that argument at present, I would guess.

This has nothing to do with the rights of the child. Everything you said is to do with the rights of the homosexual couple: eg 'They' are committed parents ==> 'They' should be allowed to adopt

It is wrong for the rights of homosexuals to be placed above those of innocent children.

You certainly present a case for enforcing some restrictions on who can and cannot procreate but Western civilization is not in the mood for that argument at present, I would guess.

Wow. So you're freely admitting to holding eugenicist views?

I mean, that's fine. But please stop representing yourself as some kind of miffed, common-sense Essex Man when you're clearly far, far out on the treasonous fringe of what is already a bizarre and insane minority of bigots.

Wow. So you're freely admitting to holding eugenicist views?

I mean, that's fine. But please stop representing yourself as some kind of miffed, common-sense Essex Man when you're clearly far, far out on the treasonous fringe of what is already a bizarre and insane minority of bigots.

Wow. So you're freely admitting to holding eugenicist views?

I mean, that's fine. But please stop representing yourself as some kind of miffed, common-sense Essex Man when you're clearly far, far out on the treasonous fringe of what is already a bizarre and insane minority of bigots.

Every child has the right to a loving, safe and nurturing home. Whether they get it or not is entirely up to chance. However, having a homosexual or heterosexual couple parenting them makes no difference to this. A homosexual parenting couple can provide just as good an environment as any, and the child has the added plus of being genuinely wanted and fought for. I think logically this gives the child the best chance of having the perfect environment in which to grow physically and emotionally. Therefore, it is directly to do with the child's rights, right? And as for what I highlighted in bold, I believe it is you that is wrong. An "innocent child" will not have its innocence revoked through having a gay couple parenting them. A homosexual parenting couple has just as much chance of giving a child a perfect home as a heterosexual one. I don't see how anyone's rights are being infringed here.

There are definitely some homosexual couples that could parent a child better then a heterosexual couple.....be interesting to see if there are any changes as a result of this....

You haven't demonstrated that "having a homosexual or heterosexual couple parenting them makes no difference to this.", this is just an emotional appeal which corresponds with what you choose to believe. Therein lies the rub.

What annoys me is all this talk of "right to adopt" Nobody has a "right" to adopt a child. Adopting a child isn't a human right. It's a privilage.

And there are probably orangutans that might make better parents than some heterosexual couples.

What annoys me is all this talk of "right to adopt" Nobody has a "right" to adopt a child. Adopting a child isn't a human right. It's a privilage.

Most Indonesians are good Muslims, so it would make sense for the authorities to pass these regulations.

I didn't think I needed to break it down quite that far.

How do you believe having a homosexual couple as parents is detrimental to the child? Perhaps if you explain this I might be able to clarify what I meant in a way you'll understand.

If we lived in the utopia that homosexual activists seem to want, where the traditional family unit is displaced by communes of various assorted combinations of adults (males, females, others on the so-called gender scale) loosely defined as "in a relationship" who collectively looked after children and brought them up to believe in all manner of sexual expression, and this was somehow not going against the natural inclinations of each successive generation, who would thus accept it, then I would have some sympathy for this.

We don't live in that society however, and I find it doubtful that we will choose to do so or be able to any time soon. Consequently, since I don't have an agenda to push under the guise of "gay rights", I'm not able to support what I believe is psychologically damaging to children.

If you link me to some studies showing otherwise then I'll read them later on. I sometimes overstretch my arguments for the sake of testing my beliefs, of course, and am always open to reasoned persuasion, but that's debate, and we don't usually get much of that from the homosexual activists.

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