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HAHAH you believe that letter? ya right, they will strike again and again until they have destroyed the west and our way of life. I would rather see a sniper in the window then a bomb blast killing the president and starting ww3.
well, i rather believe what i know by fact but we have enough with ETA in spain, and people is got used to hear now and again that there's been a bomb or whatever, but i dont think they'll strike again over spain, i think the next target might be poland or uk, hopefully there will be not.
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I'm not gonna say anything about that, I'm spanish, from Madrid, as you all know something terrible happened the 11th of this month. i got my best friend nearly dead in a f**** train station and all because the stupid and now over popular party wanted to help evil Bush and thats what we get.... anyways, if you would like to hear about ETA send me a private, it might be a good one for your thing.
the terrorists will be back...your cowardice and naivety is astonishing..
Aznar we salute you.
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no, its because spain didnt pull the troops out of irak, when the socialist won, thats the first thing they did, to send them back home, and just the day after, alquaeda sent a letter saying that there will be no more terrorism in spain coming from them coz they pulled the troops out, but now i'm all worried coz i live in dublin and bush is coming in june with 700 men force, missiles "to protect himself", 3 helicopters and even a submarine, i live just beside the castle where he'll stay, and i heard that the last time when Clinton was here there were snippers all around the place, i dont think you can feel confortable watching a snipper from your window...
oh lord, oh lord...
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I don't get how people can think this. Why don't you blame the fundamentalist crazy muslims for what happened? voting the popular party out isn't going to make them go away they don't care about that they just wanna kill the "infidels". Bush may be stupid but whats worse is giving into what those terrorists want.
hey, how can u dare say such thing about muslims, i have a lot of muslim mates and beleve you me they are much beter then others. they dont steal, dont commit sex before marriage, dont oppress (like bush), dont murder (may kill the oppresses but thats about it) are trustworth, etc, i know this because i have been living with them, and yu just have to believe the media, and oh yeah, isnt it a coincidence that more then 50% of media is controlled by jew. dont that explain it all.

im not sayin that all muslims are wright, cuz id be rong in sayin that, but i do say that ISLAM is perfect and free from worng, but not every muslim follows the 100% of islam (except the prophet) ill tell you a short stort ma'am

i was on the bus wiv one of my arab mates, and another asian muslim came on and told me to take out my fone otherwise he'd kick my ars. my arab muslim mate turned around and sbacked my case but teachin that aian muslim that islam forbidds any form of theft, the asian says that im not a muslim so its okay, my mate walks up to him and says 'since when has racism been supported in islam' and that it condemn any source of racism. and since then i got to know more about islam.

hope i made my point clear.

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hey, how can u dare say such thing about muslims,
he said..."fundamentalist crazy muslims"..

dont oppress (like bush),
pardon? oppress like Bush? what on earth does that mean?

and Muslims are not oppressive? take a look at every Islamic state in existence...
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i have a lot of muslim mates and beleve you me they are much beter then others. they dont steal, dont commit sex before marriage, dont oppress (like bush), dont murder (may kill the oppresses but thats about it) are trustworth, etc, i know this because i have been living with them,
Which "others" are they better than? Take a look at crime rates in muslim countries and compare with others. Take a look at crime rates by muslims in this country. As to theft, according to the koran, muslims are entitled to booty in counties they conquer. How much oppurtunity have your friends had to "oppress"? Historically and now, muslims have been pretty keen on opprewsssing non-muslims and the wrong kinds of muslims.
and yu just have to believe the media, and oh yeah, isnt it a coincidence that more then 50% of media is controlled by jew. dont that explain it all.
Which jew controls"more then 50% of media"? I suppose the rest is controlled by freemasons.
im not sayin that all muslims are wright, cuz id be rong in sayin that, but i do say that ISLAM is perfect and free from worng, but not every muslim follows the 100% of islam
So, it would be "perfect" to stone people to death for- say- sex before marriage or marriage to the wrong person, to conquer and enslave non-muslims, to give pagans the choice of death or conversion? If islam is as perfect as you say, why don't muslims follow "the 100%"?

i was on the bus wiv one of my arab mates, and another asian muslim came on and told me to take out my fone otherwise he'd kick my ars. my arab muslim mate turned around and sbacked my case but teachin that aian muslim that islam forbidds any form of theft, the asian says that im not a muslim so its okay, my mate walks up to him and says 'since when has racism been supported in islam' and that it condemn any source of racism. and since then i got to know more about islam.
So, you think that it's OK to steal from nonmuslims, as long as you aren't racist?

hope i made my point clear.
What point?
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Which "others" are they better than? Take a look at crime rates in muslim countries and compare with others. Take a look at crime rates by muslims in this country. As to theft, according to the koran, muslims are entitled to booty in counties they conquer. How much oppurtunity have your friends had to "oppress"? Historically and now, muslims have been pretty keen on opprewsssing non-muslims and the wrong kinds of muslims. Which jew controls"more then 50% of media"? I suppose the rest is controlled by freemasons.
So, it would be "perfect" to stone people to death for- say- sex before marriage or marriage to the wrong person, to conquer and enslave non-muslims, to give pagans the choice of death or conversion? If islam is as perfect as you say, why don't muslims follow "the 100%"?

So, you think that it's OK to steal from nonmuslims, as long as you aren't racist?

What point?
hehe, well done weejimmie!!
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the answers to ur ill interpretation

Which "others" are they better than?
non-muslims

Take a look at crime rates in muslim countries and compare with others. Take a look at crime rates by muslims in this country.
ummm, let me think... 0% in saudi, i dont think so mate.

As to theft, according to the koran, muslims are entitled to booty in counties they conquer.
muslims are entitiled to spread the word of islam, so wen they come to conquer they first ask whether the country will become islamic, if not they ask them to pay the gizhah (similar to tax) and if they dont, then they go into war. if for the benfit of the country.

How much oppurtunity have your friends had to "oppress"?
if it wasnt for islam stoping them they would be like the west, shooting and killing and raping just for a little wealth and pleasure

Historically and now, muslims have been pretty keen on opprewsssing non-muslims and the wrong kinds of muslims.
your comment is a lie, if you study history like most of the historias will tell you, that the time wen the muslims ruled is the time where peace and tranquility was spead out the most. so u chatin aload of rubbish mate.

Which jew controls"more then 50% of media"? I suppose the rest is controlled by freemasons.
if u study media, i dont think you will be arguing with me mate, so get ur facts rite.

So, it would be "perfect" to stone people to death for- say- sex before marriage or marriage to the wrong person
you can only stione a person to death if they commit adultery (i.e. in sex in marriage to sum1 other then ur wife), not fornication (please no the difference). and you also have to have 4 witnesses or else you'll get wiped all the time. now let us be serious mate, were are you going to find 4 witnesses other then if they done it in public and to show off which is codemened by all UNDERSTANDING HUMANS - not only the muslims

, to conquer and enslave non-muslims, to give pagans the choice of death or conversion?

If islam is as perfect as you say, why don't muslims follow "the 100%"?
cuz muslims aint perfect, you can not say a father is a strong father if he does not bring up his childern, so he is called a weak father. same with islam.

So, you think that it's OK to steal from nonmuslims, as long as you aren't racist?

i didnt say that u hero, i said that he stoped the person from theif because the guy was ignorant (same as you unfortuantly)


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figure it out, u av got a brain havnt ya
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firstly please sort out your tags:
put
what they said that you want to quote
since it makes it so much easier to read.

Ignoring your points on the various situations since they dont particularly interest me:
(Original post by maximusmak)
if u study media, i dont think you will be arguing with me mate, so get ur facts rite.
what sort of arguement is that? Jewish people do no control 50% of the worlds media and as Weejimmie asked? how controls the rest, i am reiterating this since you havent answered it
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cuz muslims aint perfect, you can not say a father is a strong father if he does not bring up his childern, so he is called a weak father. same with islam.
so islam is a weak religion, that is exactly the point Weejimmie was making, so again you have failed to answer it.

and to suggest that Weejimmie and Vienna dont have brains i find rather ironic
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you people are funny, to answer your question ma'am, i did not say that islam was a weak religion, (as it might be sa regards to christainity and jewdaism) but i said muslims are weak, they do not follow their religion in the way that they used to, if they did, then they would be ruling this world. fullstop.

can u answer me a question lady, but please answer it logically and sensiblly.
Why is islam the fastest growing religion in the world????????????
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ok next week i have to debate the differences between terrorists and freedom fighters. if you think they are the same then that doesnt help since i only want differences in order to win the debate. if you know of any famously freedom fighters/terrorists i would like to hear about them or if you know of a good definition of either term, or think you can distingust between the two. i will give rep to anyone who makes the effort to provide serioous help!
I would reckon that a terrorist uses drastic measures against innocents to acheive a goal, or simply to cause fear and panic. There are many examples of terrorists, from the IRA to bin ladin.

A freedom fighter is someone who will, by definition, fight for freedom. Poeple who instigate coups or civil wars to depose a dictator could be a freedom fighter. most cubans think that Fidel casto was a freedom fighter, for deposing the previous militry dictator and, although some countries, including america, view fidel castro as a dangerous dictator, most think he is harmless.
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you people are funny, to answer your question ma'am, i did not say that islam was a weak religion, (as it might be sa regards to christainity and jewdaism) but i said muslims are weak, they do not follow their religion in the way that they used to, if they did, then they would be ruling this world.
can u answer me a question lady, but please answer it logically and sensiblly.
Why is islam the fastest growing religion in the world????????????
http://www.doesgodexist.org/JanFeb04...ionIsNone.html
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-myth...st-growing.htm

seriously case doubt on your claim, even if these sites are talking bollacks fastest growing is still a load of bollacks, consider this a religion which has 2 followers and increase to 4 over a year is faster growing over that time period than a religion of 4 billion going to 5billion yet which is more significant?
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you people are funny, to answer your question ma'am, i did not say that islam was a weak religion, (as it might be sa regards to christainity and jewdaism) but i said muslims are weak, they do not follow their religion in the way that they used to, if they did, then they would be ruling this world. fullstop.

can u answer me a question lady, but please answer it logically and sensiblly.
Why is islam the fastest growing religion in the world????????????
Its the fastest growing religion because third world countries don't understand the concept of birth control. It is so obvious that you are a muslim and that you are making fun of the west. Well i like to look at it like this. Islam is newer then Christianity. I look back on history and see how barbaric we were in the past and realize that the islamic countries are about 300 years behind the rest of us. Maybe in a couple of centuries you will become more secular and realize that not everyone is out to destroy your religion.
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Which "others" are they better than?
non-muslims
How are they better? Unless merely being muslim is ipso facto better than not.

Take a look at crime rates in muslim countries and compare with others. Take a look at crime rates by muslims in this country.
ummm, let me think... 0% in saudi, i dont think so mate.
If there is 0% crime rate in Saudi Arabia, what do they publicly execute people for?

As to theft, according to the koran, muslims are entitled to booty in counties they conquer.
muslims are entitiled to spread the word of islam, so wen they come to conquer they first ask whether the country will become islamic, if not they ask them to pay the gizhah (similar to tax) and if they dont, then they go into war. if for the benfit of the country.
In short, they steal the country and run a protection racket.

How much oppurtunity have your friends had to "oppress"?
if it wasnt for islam stoping them they would be like the west, shooting and killing and raping just for a little wealth and pleasure
You didn't answer my question.

Historically and now, muslims have been pretty keen on oppressing non-muslims and the wrong kinds of muslims.
your comment is a lie, if you study history like most of the historias will tell you, that the time wen the muslims ruled is the time where peace and tranquility was spead out the most. so u chatin aload of rubbish mate.
Which "historias"? Where and when was this "tranquility"? Certainly the non-muslims ruled by muslims didn't appreciate it.

Which jew controls"more then 50% of media"? I suppose the rest is controlled by freemasons.
if u study media, i dont think you will be arguing with me mate, so get ur facts rite.
Again, please answer my question or supply the "right facts".

So, it would be "perfect" to stone people to death for- say- sex before marriage or marriage to the wrong person
you can only stione a person to death if they commit adultery (i.e. in sex in marriage to sum1 other then ur wife), not fornication (please no the difference). and you also have to have 4 witnesses or else you'll get wiped all the time. now let us be serious mate, were are you going to find 4 witnesses other then if they done it in public and to show off which is codemened by all UNDERSTANDING HUMANS - not only the muslims
Er, no, adultery is the usual English translation for all "illegal sexual intercourse", including fornication- except, of course, by muslim men with female slaves. Women can be convicted of adultery if they become pregnant outside marriage- obvious evidence. However, men avade this by denial because "you need four witnesses". That is why women can be raped and convicted of "adultery", while the rapists can get away with it. Sex in public is no more to my taste than yours. Killing people for "showing off" seems a little drastic though.

, to conquer and enslave non-muslims, to give pagans the choice of death or conversion?
Presumably this is quite all right.

If islam is as perfect as you say, why don't muslims follow "the 100%"?
cuz muslims aint perfect, you can not say a father is a strong father if he does not bring up his childern, so he is called a weak father. same with islam.
I see, so islam is " a weak father" and "doesn't bring up his children".

So, you think that it's OK to steal from nonmuslims, as long as you aren't racist?

i didnt say that u hero, i said that he stoped the person from theif because the guy was ignorant (same as you unfortuantly)
What was he ignorant of? The difference between "theif" and "booty"?


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ok next week i have to debate the differences between terrorists and freedom fighters. if you think they are the same then that doesnt help since i only want differences in order to win the debate. if you know of any famously freedom fighters/terrorists i would like to hear about them or if you know of a good definition of either term, or think you can distingust between the two. i will give rep to anyone who makes the effort to provide serioous help!

I think it all depends on history. Whoever wins the war gets to tell the story. or something like that

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It's not because you supported the war its because spain isnt a muslim country
Someone gave me negative rep for this post, thus I am going to call them a stupid sob. Just because you don't want to face the truth of the matter and realize that there is an east vs. west conflict doesn't mean you can call me naive. I point to recent events to prove my points.

1) The terrorist plans that were thwarted in london, the leader of that group was arrested in Ottawa, Canada... I told you we let everyone in.

2) American contractors were killed, burned, mutilated, dragged and then hung on bridges in Iraq.

Who is the naive one, fundamentalist muslims and going to ruin the world if they are not stopped.
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Be objective for once. Armed Iraqis mutilated 4 American CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS in Iraq who were working to restore Iraqi infrastructure and the like. Any generalization such that Muslims are non-violent is complete ****. When they embark on aggressive campaigns like in Madrid and NY killing civilians, they prove to the world how backward they truly are. Unfortunately, there are many who do not recognize this and prefer to appease rather than stand up for what is right. Such cowardice is pathetic, and will ultimately prove naive as we begin to let fundamentalist muslims control more and more of our politics with their bombs.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._mi_ea/iraq_18
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Be objective for once. Armed Iraqis mutilated 4 American CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS in Iraq who were working to restore Iraqi infrastructure and the like. Any generalization such that Muslims are non-violent is complete ****. When they embark on aggressive campaigns like in Madrid and NY killing civilians, they prove to the world how backward they truly are. Unfortunately, there are many who do not recognize this and prefer to appease rather than stand up for what is right. Such cowardice is pathetic, and will ultimately prove naive as we begin to let fundamentalist muslims control more and more of our politics with their bombs.
So true, and i get negative rep from little ****s that think I am naive because I think Madrid was attakced because its not in a Muslim Country.
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So true, and i get negative rep from little ****s that think I am naive because I think Madrid was attakced because its not in a Muslim Country.
I think Neg. rep is a bit harsh, but it is a stupid thing to say.
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Dr.Tarig Al Swaidan discovered some verses in the

Holy Qur'an

That mention one thing is equal to another,

i.e. men are equal to women.

Although this makes sense grammatically,

the astonishing fact is that the number of

times the word man appears in

the Holy Qur'an

is 24 and number of times the word

woman appears is also 24,

therefore not only is this phrase correct in

the grammatical sense but also true mathematically,

i.e. 24 = 24.

Upon further analysis of various verses,

he discovered that this is consistent throughout the whole

Holy Qur'an

where it says one thing is like another.

See below for astonishing result of

the words mentioned number of times in Arabic

Holy Qur'an

Dunia (one name for life) 115.

Aakhirat (one name for the life after this world) 115

Malaika (Angels) 88 . Shayteen (Satan) 88

Life 145 .... Death 145

Benefit 50 . Corrupt 50

People 50 .. Messengers 50

Eblees (king of devils) 11 . Seek refuge from Eblees 11

Museebah (calamity) 75 . Thanks 75

Spending (Sadaqah) 73 . Satisfaction 73

People who are mislead 17 . Dead people 17

Muslimeen 41 . Jihad 41

Gold 8 . Easy life 8

Magic 60 . Fitnah (dissuasion, misleading) 60

Zakat (Taxes Muslims pay to the poor) 32 .

Barakah (Increasing or blessings of wealth) 32

Mind 49 . Noor 49

Tongue 25 . Sermon 25

Desite 8 . Fear 8

Speaking publicly 18 . Publicising 18

Hardship 114 .... Patience 114

Muhammed 4 . Sharee'ah (Muhammed's teachings) 4

Man 24. Woman 24

And amazingly enough have a look how many times

the following words appear:

Salat 5, Month 12, Day 365,

Sea 32, Land 13

Sea + land = 32+13= 45

Sea = 32/45*100q.11111111%

Land = 13/45*100 = 28.88888889%

Sea + land 0.00%

Modern science has only recently proven that the water covers

71.111% of the

earth, while the land covers 28.889%.

Is this a coincidence? Question is that

Who taught Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) all this?

Reply automatically comes in mind that

ALMIGHTY ALLAH

taught him.

This as the

Holy Qur'an

also tells us this.
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