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Clinical Course in UK for current non-UK student??

Hi everyone!!
Next year I'll probably be starting an English spoken pre-clinical course in Medicine in the Netherlands... Unfortunately they don't offer any English clinical courses... So I'm already looking whether there are UK universities that offer a clinical course in which non-UK students are also allowed to apply... Does anyone know such a university??
Reply 1
Original post by Esstthheer
Hi everyone!!
Next year I'll probably be starting an English spoken pre-clinical course in Medicine in the Netherlands... Unfortunately they don't offer any English clinical courses... So I'm already looking whether there are UK universities that offer a clinical course in which non-UK students are also allowed to apply... Does anyone know such a university??


I haven't heard of such a thing and I don't think it would be possible unfortunately. Outside of Oxbridge-London and St Andrews, clinical school transfers are not a done thing here.

Won't you be taught Dutch in addition to your pre-clinical studies though?
Reply 2
Original post by Democracy
I haven't heard of such a thing and I don't think it would be possible unfortunately. Outside of Oxbridge-London and St Andrews, clinical school transfers are not a done thing here.

Won't you be taught Dutch in addition to your pre-clinical studies though?


The thing is: I am Dutch, but I've always been more interested in studying in the UK, but my parents don't allow me to go to a UK university quite yet, however for the clinical they don't really mind...
Reply 3
Original post by Esstthheer
The thing is: I am Dutch, but I've always been more interested in studying in the UK, but my parents don't allow me to go to a UK university quite yet, however for the clinical they don't really mind...


Ahh I understand.

Well as I say, transfers between UK medical schools are actually pretty rare, let alone ones from a non-UK medical school.

You could always do an elective placement here? And after you've qualified you could come and work here for a period since you'll have an EU medical degree :smile:
Reply 4
you're right.. that might be a better consideration! :smile: thanks for the advice!!
Does your pre-clinical course lead to the equivalent of a bachelors degree? I'm wondering if you might be eligible to apply for graduate entry medicine programs here.
Reply 6
Original post by Becca-Sarah
Does your pre-clinical course lead to the equivalent of a bachelors degree? I'm wondering if you might be eligible to apply for graduate entry medicine programs here.


Yeah, it leads to a Bsc, but I find it a bit strange as a student who already did pre-clinical to enroll in a programme that is meant for every Bsc.. I would be eligible, but I'm not sure whether I'd prefer that over finishing my studies in the Netherlands and then trying to get a working permit for the UK...
Original post by Esstthheer
Yeah, it leads to a Bsc, but I find it a bit strange as a student who already did pre-clinical to enroll in a programme that is meant for every Bsc.. I would be eligible, but I'm not sure whether I'd prefer that over finishing my studies in the Netherlands and then trying to get a working permit for the UK...


Fair enough :smile: I was just thinking that if your pre-clin course was pretty much equiv to a Medical Sciences BSc, then you'd be on a similar footing as any other biomed-type grad entering a 4yr GEP here. Staying in the Netherlands and graduating fully does seem like a more sensible option though.
Reply 8
Hi, I started a course in the UK (I was not studying medicine), dropped out, then started Medical School in Italy and emailed the same uni as well as other unis asking if I could transfer and all of them said that EU med students can't transfer to UK medical schools, most of them said I couldn't even re-apply for 1st year entry as they wouldn't accept students who already started a course in another medical school!
It's annoying but the positive side is that studying in Italy is much cheaper and maybe it's the same in your country :smile:
Original post by Esstthheer
Yeah, it leads to a Bsc, but I find it a bit strange as a student who already did pre-clinical to enroll in a programme that is meant for every Bsc.. I would be eligible, but I'm not sure whether I'd prefer that over finishing my studies in the Netherlands and then trying to get a working permit for the UK...


You don't need a work permit to work in the UK if you're Dutch. I wouldn't advise you to try and switch countries after pre-clinical. It's difficult (impossible if you exclude GEM) and you will spend more years studying than necessary.

Moreover, isn't university nearly free in the Netherlands? A 5 year medical course in the UK will set you back 42000 GBP in tuition fees alone.
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Original post by AnonymousPenguin
You don't need a work permit to work in the UK if you're Dutch. I wouldn't advise you to try and switch countries after pre-clinical. It's difficult (impossible if you exclude GEM) and you will spend more years studying than necessary.

Moreover, isn't university nearly free in the Netherlands? A 5 year medical course in the UK will set you back 42000 GBP in tuition fees alone.


Where are you getting the £42k figure from?
Original post by Becca-Sarah
Where are you getting the £42k figure from?


It's 4x9k and then for the final year it's the NHS bursary of 3k and an extra 6k from the SLC, no?

Also, as far as I know the EU health stats. Dutch consultants are better paid (GPs aren't), live in a lower cost country (albeit one with a high debt burden, since interest is tax-deductible) with bigger houses. The health system is more sustainable (hybrid insurance model) and better funded, with better outcomes.
(edited 10 years ago)
Original post by AnonymousPenguin
It's 4x9k and then for the final year it's the NHS bursary of 3k and an extra 6k from the SLC, no?

Also, as far as I know the EU health stats. Dutch consultants are better paid (GPs aren't), live in a lower cost country (albeit one with a high debt burden, since interest is tax-deductible) with bigger houses. The health system is more sustainable (hybrid insurance model) and better funded, with better outcomes.


Ah, I see. I'd forgotten the NHS bursary only partly contributed now - I'm on the old fee system so they pay it all.
Original post by Esstthheer
Yeah, it leads to a Bsc, but I find it a bit strange as a student who already did pre-clinical to enroll in a programme that is meant for every Bsc.. I would be eligible, but I'm not sure whether I'd prefer that over finishing my studies in the Netherlands and then trying to get a working permit for the UK...


If you are a Dutch Citizen you won;t need a work permit for the UK - unless UKIP magically get elected and get us out the EU

a Dutch Medical degree would make you eligible for GMC registration
Reply 14
Thanks for all the advice guys! Indeed, it is cheaper to study in the Netherlands, that was also one of the initial setbacks for my parents (6 years in NL pays for 1 year in England/Wales (tuition in Scotland would have been free for me..)).. I thought it was harder to switch countries, as they demand a certain Dutch course before working in the Netherlands as a specialist (or before clinical in my case)..

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