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Are Converse appropriate shoes to wear when lifting/doing cardio on the treadmill etc., or do I need trainers with more support?

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Never wear trainers to do lifting. Wear flat-sole shoes like converse or better yet if you can train barefoot (not always possible). Running my guess is that it doesn't actually matter though the 'research' will tell you that you need cushioning etc (perhaps, but I am weary of this stuff even if these studies claim to be independent and not funded by those with interest in showing a certain result). So I don't know about running - I run in converse and trainers but I only ever lift in converse/barefoot.
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Never wear trainers to do lifting. Wear flat-sole shoes like converse or better yet if you can train barefoot (not always possible). Running my guess is that it doesn't actually matter though the 'research' will tell you that you need cushioning etc (perhaps, but I am weary of this stuff even if these studies claim to be independent and not funded by those with interest in showing a certain result). So I don't know about running - I run in converse and trainers but I only ever lift in converse/barefoot.
How come? I thought it was the opposite? Most of the guys I see in my local gym clearly lift seriously (a lot of them are powerlifters) but I don't think I've ever seen anyone in Converse
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How come? I thought it was the opposite? Most of the guys I see in my local gym clearly lift seriously (a lot of them are powerlifters) but I don't think I've ever seen anyone in Converse
Doesn't have to be that brand; but something flat without cushions. I think if you ask your powerlifting buddies they'll have boxing shoes or weightlifting shoes on. If not, well they're idiots. Having cushions and big soles and all that crap messes with your natural body mechanics. You'll not be doing the lifts the way they are meant to be done. Probably wont injure yourself but still. Think about it - say you are squatting right? You should be correctly balanced, tight and engaging your posterior chain and moving the load in the natural way your body allows you to lift it. Now if you are wearing something with padding first you start to allow a bit of unnatural bounce; but most importantly all that padding and the big heels etc will tilt your body in some or other way - in other words you'll have to compensate for that in terms of stability and following your bodies natural movement paths. Just the quick explanation, you can google it yourself and see better explanations!
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How come? I thought it was the opposite? Most of the guys I see in my local gym clearly lift seriously (a lot of them are powerlifters) but I don't think I've ever seen anyone in Converse
Heres why:

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Heres why:

Thanks How about for warming up and stuff, then - should I not run on the treadmill/use the stepper or something? (I've heard it's best to run in running shoes or at least cushioned cross-trainers).
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Never wear trainers to do lifting. Wear flat-sole shoes like converse or better yet if you can train barefoot (not always possible). Running my guess is that it doesn't actually matter though the 'research' will tell you that you need cushioning etc (perhaps, but I am weary of this stuff even if these studies claim to be independent and not funded by those with interest in showing a certain result). So I don't know about running - I run in converse and trainers but I only ever lift in converse/barefoot.
from my experience it is in fact unfortunately true my shins used to hurt loads when I ran and the problem pretty much instantly disappeared when I bought new more cushioned trainers.

if you are just looking to add some cardio to your routine rather than actually being interested in running I doubt the shoes you wear would make a difference to something like the exercise bike or cross trainer so perhaps wear shoes like this user advised and do that instead of running?
If you really want to run do it on different days to weight training? Or you could just try it, there might be different degrees of effect for different people.
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For weights, flat soles and oly shoes are the best. For impact cardio you'll want something with cushioning.

You could switch to the rowing machine if you don't want to buy new shoes.
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did anyone try vibram five fingers? i know they are "little" costy, but i wonder how useful are they (in non-running activities)
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did anyone try vibram five fingers? i know they are "little" costy, but i wonder how useful are they (in non-running activities)
I used to lift in Vibrams, but I have the benefit of good arches and no pronation in my feet. If you don't fall into this category you'll need some kind of support, whether it's a running shoe or a lifting shoe.
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My OH wears vibram 5 fingered shoes and feels self conscious wearing them. But I remind him how expensive they are and he should be proud!


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I used to wear any old trainers when it came to needing new ones I went to a specialised sports shop where they properly took into consideration my foot shape and what I was using them for. I can really notice how much different it has made my feet do not hurt and I can do more.


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Never wear trainers to do lifting. Wear flat-sole shoes like converse or better yet if you can train barefoot (not always possible). Running my guess is that it doesn't actually matter though the 'research' will tell you that you need cushioning etc (perhaps, but I am weary of this stuff even if these studies claim to be independent and not funded by those with interest in showing a certain result). So I don't know about running - I run in converse and trainers but I only ever lift in converse/barefoot.
One of the stupidest things I've read in a while.
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One of the stupidest things I've read in a while.
Lol'd. Okay buddy. Good luck with your lifting goals/spine and knee goals in cushioned up nikes. As for me I'll stick with common sense, tried and tested methods from bodybuilders and powerlifters and the opinion of the medical community.
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I wear converse and they are excellent. As others have said, use bikes or other machines that are not treadmills if running in converse is a problem. They are cheap, look good when they are all messed up, reasonably breathable and you can wear them to walk there or just about, unlike specialist shoes which you probably don't want to walk around in.
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wear whatever you want.
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Lol'd. Okay buddy. Good luck with your lifting goals/spine and knee goals in cushioned up nikes. As for me I'll stick with common sense, tried and tested methods from bodybuilders and powerlifters and the opinion of the medical community.
I've lifted for years and I've never had any problems whatsoever from wearing trainers. Common sense? They're trainers for goodness sake. Trainers are designed for sports. The majority of bodybuilders I know wear trainers for lifting.
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I've lifted for years and I've never had any problems whatsoever from wearing trainers. Common sense? They're trainers for goodness sake. Trainers are designed for sports. The majority of bodybuilders I know wear trainers for lifting.
Ok that settles it. You wear them, and the majority of people taking cell tech wear them so it must be good. I have converted! Trainers were not designed for people doing heavy loads as one does in squats deads presses etc. Yes, you probably could get through life using trainers without injury, but that's not the point. It's safer not to wear them, and perhaps more importantly for impatient people you'll make better progress wearing flat soled shoes because you'll actually be using the correct muscles efficiently. Instead of leaning all over the place and squatting using the balls of the front part of the foot, you can squat engaging the posterior chain as it's meant to be done and you can use the correct stabilizers. Have you ever seen footage from the 70's and 80's of BB'ers? They're usually barefoot, in converse or army boots. There's a reason for that. If Jay Cutler wears trainers, that's great, he could wear bananas on his feet and it wouldn't matter with the amount of cell-tech he's taking.

Ag, who cares. Yeah trainers are the best because they're called 'trainers' it means they must be good. Please buy and support my line of shoes called "bodybuilders" which will be like trainers except for bodybuilders. They'll have spring-loaded action and be completely unnatural - you know, to 'keep the muscles guessing'. Strong common sense. Good grief.

brb common sense to not wear flat shoes to be as natural as possible when putting strain on the back and trying to efficiently move a load. brb brb.

Good day sir.
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Wear flat-sole shoes like converse or better yet if you can train barefoot (not always possible).
I'd say weightlifting shoes are ok as well. Solid sole and a heel that makes it easier to squat nicely. As would squat shoes like those sold by SAFE or Inzer but those are fairly niche.
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Ok that settles it. You wear them, and the majority of people taking cell tech wear them so it must be good. I have converted! Trainers were not designed for people doing heavy loads as one does in squats deads presses etc. Yes, you probably could get through life using trainers without injury, but that's not the point. It's safer not to wear them, and perhaps more importantly for impatient people you'll make better progress wearing flat soled shoes because you'll actually be using the correct muscles efficiently. Instead of leaning all over the place and squatting using the balls of the front part of the foot, you can squat engaging the posterior chain as it's meant to be done and you can use the correct stabilizers. Have you ever seen footage from the 70's and 80's of BB'ers? They're usually barefoot, in converse or army boots. There's a reason for that. If Jay Cutler wears trainers, that's great, he could wear bananas on his feet and it wouldn't matter with the amount of cell-tech he's taking.

Ag, who cares. Yeah trainers are the best because they're called 'trainers' it means they must be good. Please buy and support my line of shoes called "bodybuilders" which will be like trainers except for bodybuilders. They'll have spring-loaded action and be completely unnatural - you know, to 'keep the muscles guessing'. Strong common sense. Good grief.

brb common sense to not wear flat shoes to be as natural as possible when putting strain on the back and trying to efficiently move a load. brb brb.

Good day sir.
'Never wear trainers to do lifting' is exactly what you said, which is ****ing stupid. It's not unsafe so stop spewing crap please. Especially considering you're not a professional. Seeing as you clearly have the time to write nonsense, I'm sure you will have the time to watch the following two videos where dozens of professionals are lifting in trainers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKI-J11lGqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKBMBTU57A0

And here we have two top rugby nations performing intense lifts in trainers, with the supervision of top sports coaches and physiotherapists.

So let me reiterate. You said

Never wear trainers to do lifting
And I'm saying that is stupid. I never said it's wrong to wear flat shoes. But you're saying trainers shouldn't be used for lifting, which is utter, utter crap.

Boom you just got lawyered. Go home son.
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