Hi, I've been doing a few questions from the text book and I'm not sure how to complete them. If someone could offer some help, that would be very much appreciated! In the images attached, I have written the question on the top of the page, and my working at the bottom part.
With Q20, I have checked the expansion with the answers and it is correct. However I am not sure what to do to find dy/dx. I can't see the relationship between what I found with dy/dx.
With Q27, the first part is correct. However to find the area R, you need the limits in terms of x right? However, we are given x = 4 and y= 1. I'm finding it difficult to convert this back into x? And I can't do part iii) as it relies on my finding the limits for the volume of revolution.
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The second, sub y = 1 into the equation given and solve for x 
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 13052013 19:46
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For the first q, note that all but the second term, when differentiated term by term will be 0.
The second, sub y = 1 into the equation given and solve for x
For 2, so that means I have to do 1 = 2/[(x1)(x3)] ? Wouldn't I get a quadratic equation? Which means there would be several answers? 
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 13052013 20:01
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For Q1, to clarify something, but the expansion (2 + 1/2x  3/4x^2 + 17/8x^3) is essentially equal to y right? So you would just differentiate it as per usual?
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For 2, so that means I have to do 1 = 2/[(x1)(x3)] ? Wouldn't I get a quadratic equation? Which means there would be several answers? 
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 13052013 20:08
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In essence, yues  sub in x=0 and all the terms of the expansion (except one) will be equal 0 too.
It would help if I could see the region R  I'm assuming that there are some limitations imposed upon it? 
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 13052013 20:15
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For the second question, I've written out all of the information that I am given. Unfortunately there isn't a graph to accompany it! So no limitations either.
Also on your part c) you need to check your  signs 
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 13052013 20:23
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There are two points where y=1. However there is an asymptote between one of the points where y =1, so we see that for there to be a defined integral.
Also on your part c) you need to check your  signs
I'm a bit confused as I didn't get x = 2 square root 3 for either solution :/ 
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 13052013 20:26
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When you do 1/4 = 2/(x1)(x3), don't you get x^2  4x  5 = 0 when simplified? So when you factorise, you get x = 5 or x = 1? I'm assuming we take x = 1 as it is the lower bound, but why can't you use the other value?
I'm a bit confused as I didn't get x = 2 square root 3 for either solution :/
Allow me to refer you to wolfram. 
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In this case, x=5 or 1. 
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Oops, I just realised that I copied down the question wrong. The line is suppose to say, "The finite region bounded by the curve with equation y=... and the lines x=4 and y=1/4 is denoted by R". Sorry!
In this case, x=5 or 1.
So the solution x = 5 must be the other limit 
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In which case there are two asymptotes present between 4 and 1.
So the solution x = 5 must be the other limit 
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 13052013 20:41
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How do you know that there is an asymptote present in the graph? And how did you deduce that there are two asymptotes between 4 and 1?
Inspect the function, and see where x causes you to divide by 0. 
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You cannot divide by zero.
Inspect the function, and see where x causes you to divide by 0.
Would you mind taking a look at these two questions? (They're the last two I promise!)
With Q11, I'm really not sure what to do, I guess I see that when x = 10 then x^4 + 4 = 10004. But I don't really understand the question.
With Q18, what does it mean by 'when x is large'? I've always been confused when they say things like this, like in binomial expansion questions, they sometimes say, 'when x is small find the expansion...' what does this mean? So back to this question, I don't really understand what to do for part b
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First q, you guessed corrctly, you just need to factorise the quartic, sub in x=10
Second q, consider what happens to
when x gets very large 
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 13052013 21:03
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No problem
First q, you guessed corrctly, you just need to factorise the quartic, sub in x=10
Second q, consider what happens to
when x gets very large
ln2  ln4  (ln1  ln3) = ln1.5? Whereas in the question it says show that the area of R is ln3/2  1/4? Where does the 1/4 come from?
For 11, when you say factorise the quartic, do you mean x^4 + 4 = (x^2 + 2x + 2)(x^2  2x + 2)? Surely that's the same as subbing in x=10 into the quartic?
For 18. I think I understand it now, as when x is very large, then 2x3 / x^2+x+1 tends to infinity. As a result, the graph is equal to x^2  3x + 2?
One final thing, in binomial expansions, they sometimes say, "If x is small compared to a, expand ...", what does the "if x is small" bit mean? 
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 13052013 21:11
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Er back to 27 (I just tried the integration), so I integrated 1/(x3)  1/(x1) with limits of 5 and 4. So I ended up with [lnx3  lnx1]5 and 4 so...
ln2  ln4  (ln1  ln3) = ln1.5? Whereas in the question it says show that the area of R is ln3/2  1/4? Where does the 1/4 come from?
For 11, when you say factorise the quartic, do you mean x^4 + 4 = (x^2 + 2x + 2)(x^2  2x + 2)? Surely that's the same as subbing in x=10 into the quartic?
For 18. I think I understand it now, as when x is very large, then 2x3 / x^2+x+1 tends to infinity. As a result, the graph is equal to x^2  3x + 2?
One final thing, in binomial expansions, they sometimes say, "If x is small compared to a, expand ...", what does the "if x is small" bit mean?Spoiler:Showy=1, yet you integrated the whole area down to y=0
11) In essence yes, I hadn't checked to see if it factorised further.
18) Not quite, the added bit tends to 0.
For the expansion to be justified:
I think that's basically what they're saying. 
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27) You need to subtract can you see why?Spoiler:Showy=1, yet you integrated the whole area down to y=0
11) In essence yes, I hadn't checked to see if it factorised further.
18) Not quite, the added bit tends to 0.
For the expansion to be justified:
I think that's basically what they're saying.
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Okay thanks, I understand 11/18/binomial bit now. 
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 13052013 21:34
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For the first one, I basically found R + 1/4 as the difference is 1/4 (in y) and 1 in x. So I subtract 1/4 to get R? ...This question is full of tricks! However, how do you know that the 'extra bit' is 1/4? What if the graph looks like this? :
Personally, I think it's mean to set a question like this, but it should be obvious that it's underneath, as the function is positive here, so the area must be too.
Spoiler:ShowThe area of a rectangle with height 1/4 as y=1/4 and width of the integral. 
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It doesn't look like that, it looks like this.
Personally, I think it's mean to set a question like this, but it should be obvious that it's underneath, as the function is positive here, so the area must be too.
Spoiler:ShowThe area of a rectangle with height 1/4 as y=1/4 and width of the integral.
I'm having a bit of trouble with part c. So with this, it is just a typical volume of revolution question, so you do pi multiplied by the integral of y^2? When it says rotated by 2pi radians about the xaxis, is this basically saying rotation by 360o? So I shouldn't need to factor that in my working?
Here's my working, I'm not sure where I have gone wrong...as the answer is supposed to be pi(25/48  ln3/2)
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(I was just drawing a random curve by the way!) That makes much more sense now, I suppose if I can do these harder questions, then I should be able to tackle the harder exam questions!
I'm having a bit of trouble with part c. So with this, it is just a typical volume of revolution question, so you do pi multiplied by the integral of y^2? When it says rotated by 2pi radians about the xaxis, is this basically saying rotation by 360o? So I shouldn't need to factor that in my working?
Here's my working, I'm not sure where I have gone wrong...as the answer is supposed to be pi(25/48  ln3/2)
and yes to the bold, you have to the underlined.Last edited by joostan; 13052013 at 22:23.
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