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    Another one of these paedophile gangs. It makes me sick thinking about how many other gangs are still out there right now, doing the same thing. Thought on this?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...grooming-girls
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-22438623
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-22164676


    A gang of abusers who subjected vulnerable girls in Oxford to years of rape, torture and extreme sexual violence has been convicted at the Old Bailey in one of the biggest child sexual exploitation trials in recent years.

    Seven men have been found guilty of a catalogue of offences against the girls. Two men were cleared.

    The seven men were convicted of a total of 43 charges relating to six victims.

    Mohammed Hussain, 25, who was cleared of three counts of sexual activity with a child, had insisted he thought the girl was over 16. A ninth defendant, who cannot be named, was cleared of a similar charge.

    Zeeshan Ahmed had to be removed from the dock by security staff after he punched one of the acquitted men.

    The jury of seven men and five women spent 17 hours and 46 minutes in deliberations spanning four days.

    The girls – all of whom came from backgrounds in care – were drugged, raped, sold as prostitutes and trafficked around the country while supposedly in the safekeeping of the local authority in the city.

    Years of failings by Thames Valley police and Oxford social services were exposed during the trial. Police were alerted at least six times by victims – who were aged between 11 and 15 – of the exploitation and horrors that were taking place within flats and guesthouses and in the parks and open spaces of the Cowley area of Oxford.

    Social workers spoke of knowing that some of the victims were being groomed. But no one acted to draw all the evidence together until one detective took the case on in late 2010.

    The case mirrors exploitation rings uncovered in Rochdale, Derby and Telford in that the perpetrators were from Asian backgrounds and the victims were young, vulnerable white girls.

    Police and social services have apologised to the victims – who police say could exceed 50.

    Joanna Simons, chief executive of Oxford county council, said: "We are incredibly sorry we were not able to stop it any sooner. We were up against a gang of devious criminals. The girls thought they were their friends.

    "I would like to pay tribute to the courage of the girls in giving evidence. They have been so brave.

    "We did not know the nature of what was happening – the devious nature of such depravity. We did not know we were dealing with a gang."

    Detective Chief Superintendent Rob Mason, of Thames Valley police, said the force deeply regretted that the abuse was not identified sooner. "We were too reliant on victims supporting criminal proceedings and … they suffered a terrible ordeal," he said.

    The gang of men – seven of whom are of British Pakistani descent, and two of north African descent – targeted girls as young as 11 on the streets around Cowley.

    They subjected them to acts of sexual depravity of such extreme violence that police sources said it amounted to torture.

    The men – who included two sets of brothers – denied 47 charges relating to six girls aged between 11 and 15 over eight years in the Cowley area.

    In all they faced 66 counts, which included trafficking, forcing girls into prostitution, procuring an illegal abortion, rape and physical violence. The men plied the girls with drink and drugs such as crack and heroin, to which they became addicted.

    The six girls were forced to relive the horror of what happened to them in front of an Old Bailey jury during the three-and-a-half month trial.

    Each one broke down as they revealed what had taken place between 2004 and January 2012, when they were groomed, beaten raped and sold into prostitution around the country.

    The men deliberately targeted young girls who were out of control, in care and extremely vulnerable.

    The Guardian has been told by one victim, known as Girl C, in an interview after she gave her evidence, that the men exclusively wanted white girls to abuse.

    Girl D described how she was branded by her abuser, Mohammed Karrar, and sold to other men for £600 an hour. Over five years she was repeatedly raped by groups of men in what she described as "torture sex".

    Another victim, known in court as Girl A, complained twice to police but no one was charged. She told how a care home manager refused to pay her taxi fare when she returned from her abusers in Oxford. Then 14, she was driven back to the city by the taxi driver, and back into the hands of the gang of men to be raped again.

    The member of staff at the private care home where the girls were placed by Oxfordshire county council was later sacked.

    A serious case review is being launched into the failures by social services to protect the girls. Simons said an extra £2m was being spent on more social workers and preventive measures to try to ensure nothing like this ever happened again.

    The ring was only exposed when a police officer proactively built evidence against the men in late 2010.

    Simon Morton, then detective chief inspector, put the men under surveillance, traced their phones, pulled every social services record of missing girls in Oxford who he thought were victims and built the case against the gang meticulously.

    He said: "All the girls are really pleased and proud that they have given evidence. What this was an organised criminal gang who effectively owned these girls. They isolated them and turned them against everyone: adults, carers, loved ones, social services, the police. The girls were completely brainwashed.

    "These men managed to hide their activities for a considerable time and it takes a different mindset to understand what was going on.

    "This was happening in Oxford – the city of dreaming spires. If it was happening there, the ramifications for all cities are huge."

    The gang included two sets of brothers, Akhtar Dogar, 32, and Anjum Dogar, 31, and Bassam Karrar, 33, and Mohammed Karrar, 38. The other men were Kamar Jamil, 27, Zeeshan Ahmed, 27 and Assad Hussain, 32. All lived in Oxford.

    Mohammed Hussain and another man who cannot be named were cleared of all charges against them.
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    Vile. of course bad people come in all shapes, colours and sizes.

    However the fact the all the convicted were of pakistani origin, that all the victims were white and that all the 'customers' of these gangs were muslim . Is deeply disturbing as it alludes to ugly cultural and ethnic divisions being exposed within our society. We are no longer culturally cohesive, enjoy the results.
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    please block the names of the convicted and we can all try and guess them - i going to take a wild punt the names have a certin arab-semtic origin- "mohammed azam, abdul mohammed, hussain iqbal?"
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    (Original post by flyingarmbarman)
    please block the names of the convicted and we can all try and guess them - i going to take a wild punt the names have a certin arab-semtic origin- "mohammed azam, abdul mohammed, hussain iqbal?"

    Why? Unless there has been a radical shift aren't white middle aged males the most likely to commit such acts - according to crime figures.
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    (Original post by Thriftworks)
    Vile. of course bad people come in all shapes, colours and sizes. However the fact the all the convicted were of pakistani origin, that all the victims were white and that all the 'customers' of these gangs were asian. Is deeply disturbing as it alludes to ugly cultural and ethnic divisions being exposed within our society. We are no longer culturally cohesive, enjoy the results.
    actually other 'asians' dont indulge in such practices so frequently, so id take exception to your assertion, certainly not all asians are muslims either. if the case is a paedephillia one in the news, chances are far higher of them being either muslim or middle aged white man
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    Oh i thought its a reference to the uni but when i saw them faces it suggested otherwise
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    (Original post by Thriftworks)
    Why? Unless there has been a radical shift aren't white middle aged males the most likely to commit such acts - according to crime figures.
    i guarantee you i ddint even read the article, i randomly came up with those names- amazing eh?
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    (Original post by flyingarmbarman)
    actually other 'asians' dont indulge in such practices so frequently, so id take exception to your assertion, certainly not all asians are muslims either. if the case is a paedephillia one in the news, chances are far higher of them being either muslim or middle aged white man
    I was just repeating from the report I heard on BBC news, who described the customers as being of Asian origin.
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    (Original post by Thriftworks)
    I was just repeating from the report I heard on BBC news, who described the customers as being of Asian origin.
    actually bbc say they were not all asian, two were noth african (which is a differnt continent btw) they all were muslim however, so that would be a more accurate collective description
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    Why do they have to be brown. For goodness sake. Life is hard enough being a brownie.
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    (Original post by flyingarmbarman)
    actually bbc say they were not all asian, two were noth african (which is a differnt continent btw) they all were muslim however, so that would be a more accurate collective description
    Right sorry, I misheard, they may of said mostly. Or muslim idk, I was slightly distracted at the time.
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    (Original post by Thriftworks)
    Vile. of course bad people come in all shapes, colours and sizes.

    However the fact the all the convicted were of pakistani origin, that all the victims were white and that all the 'customers' of these gangs were asian. Is deeply disturbing as it alludes to ugly cultural and ethnic divisions being exposed within our society. We are no longer culturally cohesive, enjoy the results.
    No, it doesn't "allude to ugly cultural and ethnic divisions being exposed within our society." It alludes to ugly criminal activity by a group of grotesque men who im pretty sure every pakistani is ashamed to share the same "identity" with.

    These rapists are the scum of this society and ultimately the problem is with lack of education within these communities. They are backward and unable to see beyond their own filthy desires. To make it a cultural problem (when I can ASSURE you it certainly is not) is simplistic and their actions are out of kilter with the vast majority of humane muslims.
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    Poor girls, to think they weren't even believed by the Police or by Social services good riddance to bad rubbish.
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    (Original post by flyingarmbarman)
    actually bbc say they were not all asian, two were noth african (which is a differnt continent btw) they all were muslim however, so that would be a more accurate collective description
    So should we also collectively describe other paedophiles, armed robbers etc as Christians, jews, hindus or Sikhs??

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    (Original post by flyingarmbarman)
    if the case is a paedephillia one in the news, chances are far higher of them being either muslim or middle aged white man
    Where are your statistics?



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    (Original post by Extricated)
    No, it doesn't "allude to ugly cultural and ethnic divisions being exposed within our society." It alludes to ugly criminal activity by a group of grotesque men who im pretty sure every pakistani is ashamed to share the same "identity" with.

    These rapists are the scum of this society and ultimately the problem is with lack of education within these communities. They are backward and unable to see beyond their own filthy desires. To make it a cultural problem (when I can ASSURE you it certainly is not) is simplistic and unrepresentative of the vast majority of humane muslims.

    So you would put this down to con-incidence, ( the fact that all the victims were white, all the crimals of pakistani orgin).

    Would you not also accept that civic distrubance in northen towns by groups such as the EDL were due to cultural divisions.

    Of course no-one is saying that the vast majority of x culture does this to y culture. But when x does something repeatedly to y and y does things repeatedly to x to the extent where we have civl unrest in northern towns I think that we have a wider problem here and that to put it down to co-incidence is to ignore the wider issue. We have failed to make some people feel welcome within our society, leading to them feeling like outsiders.
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    (Original post by /fit/)
    Another one of these paedophile gangs. It makes me sick thinking about how many other gangs are still out there right now, doing the same thing. Thought on this?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/ma...grooming-girls
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-22438623
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-22164676


    So these are the people that the police service, social services covered up for over 10 years in the subsequent investigations last year. So privledged they're even allowed to rape children.

    Liberals eh British Police & Social services are scum for allowing this to happen. Goes to show the diseased way of thinking PC has on posh, white ***** who live in their own world.
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    These men should be hanged..

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    (Original post by Umar1)
    So should we also collectively describe other paedophiles, armed robbers etc as Christians, jews, hindus or Sikhs??Posted from TSR Mobile
    if that floats your boatbut in the case of this , Thriftwork incorrectly 'collectively' described these as asian, when two were african. They were all however muslim, so that is a more accurate description was the point. Also the point was that some rather simple minded people automatically equate muslim=asian , which it does not, there are far more non-muslim asians on the planet, islam is a middle eastern religion, like christianity, not an asian one.
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    (Original post by Thriftworks)
    So you would put this down to con-incidence, ( the fact that all the victims were white, all the crimals of pakistani orgin).

    Would you not also accept that civic distrubance in northen towns by groups such as the EDL were due to cultural divisions.

    Of course no-one is saying that the vast majority of x culture does this to y culture. But when x does something repeatedly to y and y does things repeatedly to x to the extent where we have civl unrest in northern towns I think that we have a wider problem here and that to put it down to co-incidence is to ignore the wider issue. We have failed to make some people feel welcome within our society, leading to them feeling like outsiders.
    They were targeted them because white, non-Muslim girls are seen as 'less' of value in their communities.

    I live in London and have seen this type of hostile, aggressive and degrading attitude toward white women. Although these were not women, they're were 12 year old kids. Just abusing the unclean infidels as they saw it.
 
 
 
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