What qualifies as a mediocre school (For A level, our school is around 350th/approx 900 in the Times League table...)?
I think what most people mean by a mediocre comprehensive would be one with about 30% of people with 5 A*-C at GCSE. My comp was one of the better ones in the LEA, with 50% in my year, so I have nothing to complain about, but a fair few people on these boards acheive their grades in places which would hinder them.
Not sure if this would always be the case as % A*-C is not always a very good indicator. For example at my school last year 70% gained 5A*-C in all GCSE/GNVQ subjects. This suggests the school is way above average (~56% I think). However when specified that the results include English and Maths GCSE the difference is dramatic - just 33%. This is quite a bit below the national average of 44%. The huge difference is also reflected in year on year comparisons - while results in my school had slowly been rising by one or two percentage points each year up until 2003, approaching 35%, in 2004 there was a sudden jump to 52% followed by the next jump to 70%. These jumps are not really anything to do with better teaching etc. which is reflected more in the previous gradual increase, but instead as they coincide with the introduction of vocational qualifications worth several GCSEs in my school - for example GNVQ ICT worth 4 GCSEs in itself. The overall effect of this is that my school now appears anomalously high in terms of 5A*-C rate (though as last year itself had anomalously high results (i.e. KS3 results much higher than previous and following years - 195 compared to 165 and 169) the GCSE rate is likely to fall next year bringing it a bit closer to what might be expected). Sorry for the over-detail but basically what I'm trying to say is in response to the original question it would be better to look at a range of indicators to assess your school! As far as I know Cambridge at least assess schools in terms of their average point score at GCSE (certain amount of points assigned to each grade e.g. A* 52 A 46 ... then average total for each student) which therefore might be a better indicator to look at, it also less susceptible(although not fully unaffected) to the affect of GNVQs etc.
My teacher told me that successful Cambridge applicants usually have 270+ UMS scores in all their AS subjects. Did anyone get in with less than 270 UMS in at least 2 of their AS subjects?
^ I only got above 270 in RS and General Studies, and General Studies isn't counted anyway. English Literature, Psychology and German I had less than 270. I expect I'm not the only one.
Not sure if this would always be the case as % A*-C is not always a very good indicator. For example at my school last year 70% gained 5A*-C in all GCSE/GNVQ subjects. This suggests the school is way above average (~56% I think). However when specified that the results include English and Maths GCSE the difference is dramatic - just 33%. This is quite a bit below the national average of 44%. The huge difference is also reflected in year on year comparisons - while results in my school had slowly been rising by one or two percentage points each year up until 2003, approaching 35%, in 2004 there was a sudden jump to 52% followed by the next jump to 70%. These jumps are not really anything to do with better teaching etc. which is reflected more in the previous gradual increase, but instead as they coincide with the introduction of vocational qualifications worth several GCSEs in my school - for example GNVQ ICT worth 4 GCSEs in itself. The overall effect of this is that my school now appears anomalously high in terms of 5A*-C rate (though as last year itself had anomalously high results (i.e. KS3 results much higher than previous and following years - 195 compared to 165 and 169) the GCSE rate is likely to fall next year bringing it a bit closer to what might be expected). Sorry for the over-detail but basically what I'm trying to say is in response to the original question it would be better to look at a range of indicators to assess your school! As far as I know Cambridge at least assess schools in terms of their average point score at GCSE (certain amount of points assigned to each grade e.g. A* 52 A 46 ... then average total for each student) which therefore might be a better indicator to look at, it also less susceptible(although not fully unaffected) to the affect of GNVQs etc.
Yeah, you're right about that. My school boasted about a 50% pass rate ("the highest ever!") in my GCSE year and they were rated the best school that wasn't a girls school and didn't have a catchment area which exclusively drew on middle-class pupils in nicer areas of my borough. However, after that new system came out it turned out the pass rate was only 30% - shameful in comparison. I think schools are getting far too over-reliant on GNVQs, which don't seem to teach you anything useful. If GNVQs were made more difficult and there was a greater practical side (how can a vocational course involve writing long-arse reports that really don't mean anything?) then I would respect them as a meritable qualification.
My teacher told me that successful Cambridge applicants usually have 270+ UMS scores in all their AS subjects. Did anyone get in with less than 270 UMS in at least 2 of their AS subjects?
not cambridge but oxford i got +270 in 2 subjects and <270 in 2 (although they were in the 260s.
My teacher told me that successful Cambridge applicants usually have 270+ UMS scores in all their AS subjects. Did anyone get in with less than 270 UMS in at least 2 of their AS subjects?
I had Bs in 2 of my ASs, so obviously they weren't 270+ although the others were 300 and 290. As usual with Oxbridge, just because the majority of applicants have x grades and y marks, that doesn't mean you don't stand a chance without them.
My teacher told me that successful Cambridge applicants usually have 270+ UMS scores in all their AS subjects. Did anyone get in with less than 270 UMS in at least 2 of their AS subjects?
I got below 270 UMS in all of mine and still got in
Meh this is embarrasing really but ill do anything to help because i know what its like, could say its partly down to school but mainly because i wasnt working at AS.
GCSE: 6A* 2A 2B AS: aabb (didnt declare one of the b because it was down to one really dodgy module while both other modules were A so it was just in the UMS form you need to fill out, with a tick next to it in the Resit box, Now aaab after resit) A2 (prediction): AAA
Offer: AAA (Natsci bio)
Catholic school with AVERAGE gcse's but some of the worst A-level results in the borough. (it got an E in the last Ofstead inspection)
Ums average in all apart from Biology which i got two 100/100 and one 94/100 in.
Meh this is embarrasing really but ill do anything to help because i know what its like, could say its partly down to school but mainly because i wasnt working at AS.
GCSE: 6A* 2A 2B AS: aabb (didnt declare one of the b because it was down to one really dodgy module while both other modules were A so it was just in the UMS form you need to fill out, with a tick next to it in the Resit box, Now aaab after resit) A2 (prediction): AAA
Offer: AAA (Natsci bio)
Catholic school with AVERAGE gcse's but some of the worst A-level results in the borough. (it got an E in the last Ofstead inspection)
Ums average in all apart from Biology which i got two 100/100 and one 94/100 in.
Which college did you apply to? If you indicate that you will resit a module, do you still have to put down your result before resit?
If you indicate that you will resit a module, do you still have to put down your result before resit?
For Cambridge, I think you have to put down results before resits for all colleges, but Oxford don't ask for UMS marks anyway, so they'll just get AS grades if you cash them in.
course: english gcse: 10A* 1A (A in chemistry) as: A (english), A (history), A (french), A (art), A (gen studies), C (critical thinking woop woop) a2: A (english), A (history), A (french), A (gen studies) school: mixed state grammar school