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    (Original post by Harry Potter)
    I bet it requires a lot of discipline to study something as boring as law for 3 years .
    Not really, everything is hard if you don't make an effort in studying it or either show no interests in it.

    It really ain't that hard either.
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    (Original post by Harry Potter)
    I bet it requires a lot of discipline to study something as boring as law for 3 years .
    I would find some other subjects much more boring than law! But saying that I'm really not finding contract that interesting at the minute, I much prefer tort. Like all things it depends on the individual. Just because some of law is reading old and dusty books doesn't necessarily mean it is boring. Although some of the books are best used as doorstops for all the use I get out of reading them.
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    medicine in general attract a much higher calibre of student than law. A lot of people want to do law because they want a 'successful career' and want the lifestyle and 'respect' of a high earning lawyer which is such a crap incentive to do it coz you spend so much time doing something you hate just to be rich! and this is probably the only incentive to do law. The application is easier than medicine since work experience isn't really required and uni's seem to pick the more socially active candidate. With medicine, candidates are expected to have given full thought to the implications of the career and are all interviewed. The career itself is much more challenging in my opinion since doctors are under great stress not to make mistakes with dosages, treatments and especially surgery. Like lawyers they are faced with ethical dilemas e.g euthanasia, genetics etc. But then again I suppose law, like sciences, requires a lot of reasoning and logic e.g should a law be changed? Was that technically legal? The main challenge with law is being able to remember all the legislations,trying to see if something is right (and often twisting the truth making them evil!) and trying to work up and is really competitive. I think doctors are on the whole more well-rounded professionals who have a much more interesting and rewarding job. There are probably more challenges with being a doctor too. And can you think of one lawyer who's legislative work made a difference to the world?Coz i can't
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    (Original post by phil1988)
    Generally, which is the more difficult degree to a) get into and b) do, law or medicine?

    *when all are one and one is all, to be a rock and not to roll*
    Well my partner is a practicing barrister. I start med school in September - is 5 years too long to wait for a full answer?

    I think at entry level (ie degree) medicine is more difficult than law. But post graduate stuff, then med is clearly easier by a mile. The only profession where you're guarenteed a job if you qualify.....

    With law you have great competition to get ontot he relevant courses for the bar or to be a solicitor. Then for the bar, passing the BVC is no guarentee of pupillage....
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    (Original post by calamity jane)
    And can you think of one lawyer who's legislative work made a difference to the world?Coz i can't
    Several!

    Bentham is the main one that springs to mind. Where would international or human rights law be without him?
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    (Original post by house badger)
    However there is no hard and fast comparison between top law+medicine departments.
    Hi! Just out of interest, which are the top medicine departments?
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    1 Oxford
    2= Cambridge
    2= Glasgow
    4 Liverpool
    5 Newcastle
    6= Aberdeen
    6= Manchester
    8 Edinburgh
    9 Southampton
    10 St George's Hospital Medical School
    11 Leicester
    12 Imperial College
    13 Dundee
    14 Wales College of Medecine
    15 King's College London
    16 University College London
    17 Queens, Belfast
    18 Nottingham
    19 Bristol
    20 Queen Mary
    21 Sheffield
    22 Leeds
    23 Birmingham
    24 St Andrews

    That's what the Times have it down as but I had always heared that Leicester was top?! Oh well.
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    (Original post by calamity jane)
    And can you think of one lawyer who's legislative work made a difference to the world?Coz i can't
    That's probably because lawyers don't really legislate do they? :rolleyes:
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    (Original post by calamity jane)
    I think doctors are on the whole more well-rounded professionals who have a much more interesting and rewarding job. There are probably more challenges with being a doctor too. And can you think of one lawyer who's legislative work made a difference to the world?Coz i can't
    Not necessarily. With a law degree, or as a qualified solicitor, you can do very interesting and rewarding jobs. Its not obligitary to become a paper-pushing City lawyer once you qualify. I'm personally hoping to specialise in employment, immigration, or public international law which, although doesnt pay as much as a City job, is one hell of a lot more interesting and rewarding. There is also always work on the legal teams of NGO's such as Oxfam or Amnesy, which is not only rewarding but allows for much international work. Furthermore the government or other supra-national organisations such as the EU or UN employ lawyers to help them draft legislation. And you cant exactly say the UN doesnt 'make a difference to the world'!!
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    (Original post by kingslaw)
    Not necessarily. With a law degree, or as a qualified solicitor, you can do very interesting and rewarding jobs. Its not obligitary to become a paper-pushing City lawyer once you qualify. I'm personally hoping to specialise in employment, immigration, or public international law which, although doesnt pay as much as a City job, is one hell of a lot more interesting and rewarding. There is also always work on the legal teams of NGO's such as Oxfam or Amnesy, which is not only rewarding but allows for much international work. Furthermore the government or other supra-national organisations such as the EU or UN employ lawyers to help them draft legislation. And you cant exactly say the UN doesnt 'make a difference to the world'!!
    you should look into pro bono stuff Kingslaw, if you haven't already... will make the types of things you've described more accessible... My boyf did some PB stuff for Amnesty.
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    Its impossible to choose between medicine and law in terms of difficulty, - they're completely different subjects. I don't know anyone one who has done both to give an accurate comparison!
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    (Original post by Bitewing)
    Its impossible to choose between medicine and law in terms of difficulty, - they're completely different subjects. I don't know anyone one who has done both to give an accurate comparison!
    The current BMA Medical Students Committee Chair, Leigh Bissett, has a law degree and has completed the BVC... He's at UEA...
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    (Original post by Fluffy)
    The current BMA Medical Students Committee Chair, Leigh Bissett, has a law degree and has completed the BVC... He's at UEA...
    Really? I guess he's the best person to ask then!
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    (Original post by Fluffy)
    you should look into pro bono stuff Kingslaw, if you haven't already... will make the types of things you've described more accessible... My boyf did some PB stuff for Amnesty.
    Thanks for that Fluffy. I just went on the website and it looks really interesting and will probably join next year. It'll make a nice antidote to all the money-grabbing City lawyer wannabes that'll be studying law at Kings next year!
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    Happy to discuss either medicine or law with prospectuve students.

    My email address is [email protected]

    Warmest wishes.
    Leigh Bissett
    Chairman
    Medical Students Committee
    British Medical Association
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    LOL! I thought of you when this thread first popped up...
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    Medicine is solid as rock !

    Law doesnt even compare to it !

    For a start 5 years to 3 years !

    Then 5 years mean 5 years hardly any summer holidays as you go on !
    Exams after exams tons of books to read ! Law seems to be a doss !
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    (Original post by calamity jane)
    medicine in general attract a much higher calibre of student than law.
    It dosnt attract a MUCH higher calibre than law.
    In fact if it attracts higher calibre students, the it will be by a miniscule amount (one person with an extra A in 50 say...)

    A lot of people want to do law because they want a 'successful career' and want the lifestyle and 'respect' of a high earning lawyer which is such a crap incentive to do it coz you spend so much time doing something you hate just to be rich! and this is probably the only incentive to do law.
    Hypocrite. A lot of people want to do medicine because they view it as a decent profession that their parents will respect i.e. 90% of asians in my year.
    I agree with the point about doing it just for the money.
    But it is far from the ONLY incentive. How about doing a job that is challenging and rewarding. But remember, at least a quarter of law graduates go into a different field. Doing a law degree is an intellectually stimulating and very relevant course to take (medicine does not havethe same impact on EVERYONE's lives...although of course, the question never was "Which is better..?" and such question is futile anyway!)

    The application is easier than medicine since work experience isn't really required and uni's seem to pick the more socially active candidate. With medicine, candidates are expected to have given full thought to the implications of the career and are all interviewed.
    The application is no easier. The LNAT isas challeging as the BMAT. And to get into top unis you need AAA for both degrees.
    Work experience isnt REQUIRED, but you do need to demonstrate an active interest in the law, and most candidates will have work experience. Failing that they will have visited a local court...


    The career itself is much more challenging in my opinion since doctors are under great stress not to make mistakes with dosages, treatments and especially surgery. Like lawyers they are faced with ethical dilemas e.g euthanasia, genetics etc. But then again I suppose law, like sciences, requires a lot of reasoning and logic e.g should a law be changed? Was that technically legal? The main challenge with law is being able to remember all the legislations,trying to see if something is right (and often twisting the truth making them evil!) and trying to work up and is really competitive. I think doctors are on the whole more well-rounded professionals who have a much more interesting and rewarding job. There are probably more challenges with being a doctor too. And can you think of one lawyer who's legislative work made a difference to the world?Coz i can't
    Much of this is right, but you do not need to remember much law as a practicing lawyer.
    Being a lawyer is just as stressful. Although the element of life and death rarely comes into it, try telling a lawyer in the City that his job isn't stressful! The hours are also comparable in both professions.
    As to your last question...how about EVERY law lord?
    How about every judge?
    They have freedom and the very fabric of society in their hands (especially in a system where we have precedent).

    Well done on being a moron.

    :cool:
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    (Original post by pete77)
    Medicine is solid as rock !

    Law doesnt even compare to it !

    For a start 5 years to 3 years !

    Then 5 years mean 5 years hardly any summer holidays as you go on !
    Exams after exams tons of books to read ! Law seems to be a doss !
    Yes...law is a doss...join calamity Jane in the "Im-a-conceited-medic" clan.
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    I cannot believe you actually dignified Jane's inane and ludicrous post with a decent reply. Well done, Phonicsdude.
 
 
 
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