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    WE are close to breaking and then the xxxx will hit the fan, some truly shocking figures

    1 in 4 of international migrants come to the UK

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...t-workers.html

    Britain the biggest magnet for immigrants= EU immigration levels went up 10% now double that of Germany

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

    Estimated in the article that 700,000 will come from Romania and Bulgaria sounds more likely than the BBC and Government ridiculously low estimates

    It has to stop
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    It has to stop
    Why?
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    (Original post by Ace123)
    WE are close to breaking and then the xxxx will hit the fan

    It has to stop
    First, how?

    Second, why?
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    Remember what Labour did: sent out search parties for immigrants to come here to work and live.
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    Why?
    :ditto:

    We have an aging population, without immigrants we're completely screwed. And our economy is doing bad enough as it is, imagine how much worse it'll get if we suddenly lost millions of workers?
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    Why?
    Here is one reason why it has to stop:

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    The population is growing by 1% per year!

    The NHS Budget is fixed in real terms. It is £100bn per year but this year it will need £1bn extra, next year £2bn extra etc...

    According to the UN about 50% of childhood poverty in the UK is the result of immigration: UNICEF Working paper:THE SITUATION OF CHILDREN IN IMMIGRANT FAMILIES IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

    And so on....

    The last generation, the ex-hippies and socialists, loved to play Lady Bountiful and give everything away but never has a generation hated its own children so much.
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    Why?
    You'll find out when you (a) try to find and then (b) try to afford your first independent accommodation.
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    (Original post by Ace123)
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    BBC surveys in each country, both of more than 1,000 people, suggest most would move only with a firm work offer.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    :ditto:

    We have an aging population, without immigrants we're completely screwed. And our economy is doing bad enough as it is, imagine how much worse it'll get if we suddenly lost millions of workers?
    Wonderful, what happens when the millions of immigrants get old too? I suppose their children and grand children will be calling for tens of millions more immigrants. A human Ponzi scheme if ever there was one, from a generation which can't see past its own nose.
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    (Original post by newpersonage)
    Here is one reason why it has to stop:

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    The population is growing by 1% per year!

    The NHS Budget is fixed in real terms. It is £100bn per year but this year it will need £1bn extra, next year £2bn extra etc...

    According to the UN about 50% of childhood poverty in the UK is the result of immigration: UNICEF Working paper:THE SITUATION OF CHILDREN IN IMMIGRANT FAMILIES IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

    And so on....

    The last generation, the ex-hippies and socialists, loved to play Lady Bountiful and give everything away but never has a generation hated its own children so much.
    The way I see it is that we need more Polish people to come over and build houses to saturate the market

    Also, the problem with housing is predominantly because rich older people hold on to houses they don't need, or have built up property empires, meaning that the number of houses actually in the market are fewer than the available homes. If people rent out 3 homes, that's 3 homes that aren't in the market for selling.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    We have an aging population, without immigrants we're completely screwed. And our economy is doing bad enough as it is, imagine how much worse it'll get if we suddenly lost millions of workers?
    And who is going to pay for these immigrants and their children when they get old? You can't solve the problem of an ageing population by endlessly importing young people and swelling the population. Eventually there will be a generation that has to pay the price.

    The trouble with friends of baby boomers is that they want their children or grandchildren to pay the price.
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    (Original post by thesabbath)
    Wonderful, what happens when the millions of immigrants get old too? I suppose their children and grand children will be calling for tens of millions more immigrants. A human Ponzi scheme if ever there was one, from a generation which can't see past its own nose.
    Immigrants have more children than average, so their children will help provide for them.
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    (Original post by newpersonage)
    Here is one reason why it has to stop:

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    The population is growing by 1% per year!
    First houses prices rising are a good thing. Secondly population statistics would show that give around 50 years or so, our population should start declining

    (Original post by newpersonage)
    The NHS Budget is fixed in real terms. It is £100bn per year but this year it will need £1bn extra, next year £2bn extra etc...
    Well obviously. There is such a thing as inflation

    (Original post by newpersonage)
    According to the UN about 50% of childhood poverty in the UK is the result of immigration: UNICEF Working paper:THE SITUATION OF CHILDREN IN IMMIGRANT FAMILIES IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

    And so on....
    Which page? I tried to "find" 50% and 50 percent. Nothing came up

    (Original post by newpersonage)
    The last generation, the ex-hippies and socialists, loved to play Lady Bountiful and give everything away but never has a generation hated its own children so much.
    Awww. Did Mummy and Daddy not love you?

    (Original post by Good bloke)
    You'll find out when you (a) try to find and then (b) try to afford your first independent accommodation.
    As much as it would annoy me getting my own house, house prices rising are a good thing, not a bad thing. That being said, I guess there's also selfish reasons for it being a good thing, due to my parents owning a house, and my grand dad owning some houses.

    (Original post by PythianLegume)

    Also, the problem with housing is predominantly because rich older people hold on to houses they don't need, or have built up property empires, meaning that the number of houses actually in the market are fewer than the available homes. If people rent out 3 homes, that's 3 homes that aren't in the market for selling.
    Welcome to capitalism. And just because you do happen to own more than one house, it doesn't by any definition mean you are rich
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    The way I see it is that we need more Polish people to come over and build houses to saturate the market

    Also, the problem with housing is predominantly because rich older people hold on to houses they don't need, or have built up property empires, meaning that the number of houses actually in the market are fewer than the available homes. If people rent out 3 homes, that's 3 homes that aren't in the market for selling.
    Cheap housing will just be yet another draw for immigrants. You will end up building over the whole country.

    The reason British housing is expensive is that British people do not want the whole country to be built over, everything destroyed. It is our last, small protest at being consumed by socialists and corporatists who care nothing for anything.
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    (Original post by Dez)
    :ditto:

    We have an aging population, without immigrants we're completely screwed. And our economy is doing bad enough as it is, imagine how much worse it'll get if we suddenly lost millions of workers?
    Economic growth predicated on importing more labour is doomed to failure eventually. Either the economy must grow through selling higher value products using the same labour (i.e. better productivity) or it must level off and not have the country ruined by the pursuit of an impossible dream of endless growth.
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    (Original post by newpersonage)
    Cheap housing will just be yet another draw for immigrants. You will end up building over the whole country.

    The reason British housing is expensive is that British people do not want the whole country to be built over, everything destroyed. It is our last, small protest at being consumed by socialists and corporatists who care nothing for anything.
    You complain about expensive housing, and then say it's bad because it draws immigrants?

    The reason British housing is expensive is because a few wealthy people in the suburbs don't want other people ruining their rural idyll. The way I see it, this is a problem with British people, not immigrants.
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    (Original post by de_monies)
    houses prices rising are a good thing.
    On what basis do you think that? Property price inflation exacerbates class divides, puts a brake on both social and physical mobility and makes life more difficult for the young and the poor.
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    (Original post by PythianLegume)
    The reason British housing is expensive is because a few wealthy people in the suburbs don't want other people ruining their rural idyll.
    People who live in the suburbs aren't living in a rural idyll. They may be living in idyllic surroundings (to them) but it isn't, by definition, rural; it is urban.
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    (Original post by Good bloke)
    On what basis do you think that? Property price inflation exacerbates class divides, puts a brake on both social and physical mobility and makes life more difficult for the young and the poor.
    So social mobility of the young and poor is good, but letting poor, young immigrants come over for jobs is bad?
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    Seriously, who cares? We have far more important things to worry about than a few immigrants. :rolleyes:
 
 
 
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