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I know plenty of successful people who don't have degrees. If you are ambitious and driven enough you will succeed whatever.
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(Original post by Pencil Queen)
Yup

Bumming around aimlessly (possibly claiming benefit in between temping assignments) for three years while trying to figure out what you want to do would be better?
Ha Ha, not quite what I had in mind. A-Levels are still perfectly respectable qualifications, people should know what they want to do very early on so this problem never presents itself.
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(Original post by Gimp)
I know plenty of successful people who don't have degrees. If you are ambitious and driven enough you will succeed whatever.
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(Original post by piginapoke)
This is true, but the opportunities are fewer for non-graduates in industry; its easier to 'get your foot in the door' with a degree. Its definitely possible to have a fantastic career without having a degree, one of the best engineers I know is unqualified, started out as a technician and worked his way up. A degree makes it much easier to get into top-flight work in the first instance, a lot of companies won't even look at you without one.
True for some jobs, however (and I am speaking from the industry I want to get into by the way - the aviation one) I have a PPL (that is a Private Pilot Licence) and I am doing 3 A-Levels, I will probably stand a much better chance of getting in that anyone with a degree and limited real-world experience of work.

However, for some jobs it is true that a degree is an absolute must.
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Is a degree worth it - in terms of employment prospects when compared with the amount a degree costs, I would say in some cases no a degree isnt worth the expense. However i would say its definitely worth it in terms of life experience etc.
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Its just added security though with a degree you can be more flexible in your career path so if you end up loosing your job it should be easier to get another one.

However if you did a degree in Popular Culture at TVU and got a 3rd then quite clearly in most cases the degree would not help your career at all.

To me my degree is worth it just for sake of learning and achieving somthing that not everybody gets the chance to.
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(Original post by amazingtrade)
Its just added security though with a degree you can be more flexible in your career path so if you end up loosing your job it should be easier to get another one.

However if you did a degree in Popular Culture at TVU and got a 3rd then quite clearly in most cases the degree would not help your career at all.

To me my degree is worth it just for sake of learning and achieving somthing that not everybody gets the chance to.
You seem like you have a deep burning hate for TVU!
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I've found that in some jobs a degree can count against you especially in small firms a boss doesnt want to employ someone who is potentially smarter than them. oh well thats life I guess.
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You seem like you have a deep burning hate for TVU!
I use UKL because I know I can get away with it, if I said Greenwhich then a few people may be offended at that. TVU was listed the worst University in the Sunday Times and considering only 23% of their students are doing degree level or higher qualifcations I am god smacked that place can be called a university.

I am sure their cookery degree is of a very high standard though offering courses for world class McDonalds assistants.
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(Original post by amazingtrade)
I use UKL because I know I can get away with it, if I said Greenwhich then a few people may be offended at that. TVU was listed the worst University in the Sunday Times and considering only 23% of their students are doing degree level or higher qualifcations I am god smacked that place can be called a university.

I am sure their cookery degree is of a very high standard though offering courses for world class McDonalds assistants.
Intellectual arrogance leads you down a well-trodden path.
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The usefulness of a degree depends on what degree it is surely.
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I think you miss understood my point. I have no problems with places like Bolton that offer degrees, it may not be high standard but there main aim is to offer degrees, TVU is in a mainly in the FE sector so should be a college rather than a university regardless of its size.
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(Original post by amazingtrade)
I think you miss understood my point. I have no problems with places like Bolton that offer degrees, it may not be high standard but there main aim is to offer degrees, TVU is in a mainly in the FE sector so should be a college rather than a university regardless of its size.
I was referring to your last sentence, but judging by some of my threads on universities, I can't really argue the qualities of TVU
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Yes I am sorry about that, maybe the McDonald's thing was a tad low. However it probably isn't much different to reality. I have a cousin who serves in McDonald's who has a degree, ok a 2.2 from a bad university but thats not the point I guess (the university was in Liecester but not sure of the name).
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people should know what they want to do very early on so this problem never presents itself.
You make it seems so easy and matter-of-fact like people can just wake up one morning and decide "Hey, today I'll know for sure what I want to do for the rest of my life!"... it's not that easy. I'm sure the vast majority of people would love to figure out very early on what they want to do but the reality is that it's very tough for many of us, and lots of people end up going to university, getting a degree and still not sure afterwards of what they really want to do!
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(Original post by amazingtrade)
Yes I am sorry about that, maybe the McDonald's thing was a tad low. However it probably isn't much different to reality. I have a cousin who serves in McDonald's who has a degree, ok a 2.2 from a bad university but thats not the point I guess (the university was in Liecester but not sure of the name).
My ex-girlfriend has a degree from oxford and she's working at Pizza Hut (and yes, she was 5 years older than me)! I suppose that's out of choice as opposed to anything else, god knows why though.
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I still don't know what I want to do, I know I want to do somthing in technology and internet but there are so many different jobs within that field.

I probably want to be database driven web developer specialising in accesability designing sites to meet discrinamationary laws or maybe go into teaching.
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A friend of mine had a first class law degree from one of the london unis and spent 2 years working in a supermarket.
I think fair enough to say TVU shouldnt be a uni, but it isnt fair to deride the people who do degrees there and say that they have the prospect of working in McDonalds. I hate certain degrees which I think are easy options but my annoyance rests with the government who allows the courses and the institutions which run them not the individual students.
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University should be more about education, and less about getting a job.
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(Original post by DRS)
True for some jobs, however (and I am speaking from the industry I want to get into by the way - the aviation one) I have a PPL (that is a Private Pilot Licence) and I am doing 3 A-Levels, I will probably stand a much better chance of getting in that anyone with a degree and limited real-world experience of work.

However, for some jobs it is true that a degree is an absolute must.
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