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Stalking and identity change
-anonymous because someone may somehow link me and the person involved.
If my friend were to get a name change because she was being stalked by someone but they werent violent or anything but shes scared they may turn out to be, would this be legal?
She's 16 in a few months but the person "stalking" her is someone who apparantly traced the websites she went on using a cookie tracker (or similar) and has found out quite a lot of info about her and has been posting on her myspace and threatened to give her telephone number and photos (which she has apparantly) to men who will call her up and harrass her, which if her parents find out will ruin her trust with her parents (long story) so she took her myspace down and everything off the internet that could give the stalker (whos a girl) any info about her. She keeps telling me she wants a name change because her name is quite unique and so therefore any people trying to find information about her will find it easily and she is part of many online communities, but she has tried to edit all her profiles which has her first name.
Her parents dont know what she gets up to online, that is they dont know she has online friends and are part of forums and things so she cant tell her parents about this and also her parents had some argument with her and her sister about meeting up with some friends from the internet (long story again) so she just wants to change her first name so that she feels safer and she doesn't really like her current name anyway, so it's doing 2 favours.
Sorry for the long post, if anyone can give any words of help that would be great, and the other problem is that she doesnt know how to go about changing her name and convincing her parents that she is serious because her parents are probably going to think its a teenage "phase".
Thanks for listening
If my friend were to get a name change because she was being stalked by someone but they werent violent or anything but shes scared they may turn out to be, would this be legal?
She's 16 in a few months but the person "stalking" her is someone who apparantly traced the websites she went on using a cookie tracker (or similar) and has found out quite a lot of info about her and has been posting on her myspace and threatened to give her telephone number and photos (which she has apparantly) to men who will call her up and harrass her, which if her parents find out will ruin her trust with her parents (long story) so she took her myspace down and everything off the internet that could give the stalker (whos a girl) any info about her. She keeps telling me she wants a name change because her name is quite unique and so therefore any people trying to find information about her will find it easily and she is part of many online communities, but she has tried to edit all her profiles which has her first name.
Her parents dont know what she gets up to online, that is they dont know she has online friends and are part of forums and things so she cant tell her parents about this and also her parents had some argument with her and her sister about meeting up with some friends from the internet (long story again) so she just wants to change her first name so that she feels safer and she doesn't really like her current name anyway, so it's doing 2 favours.
Sorry for the long post, if anyone can give any words of help that would be great, and the other problem is that she doesnt know how to go about changing her name and convincing her parents that she is serious because her parents are probably going to think its a teenage "phase".
Thanks for listening
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according to this website though that I found they say you don't need a solicitor at all and you can do it online, even pay by pay pal http://www.ukdps.co.uk/
It also says you can do it at 16+
What will she say to the police? The police are also bound to tell her parents if anything serious ever did happen
It also says you can do it at 16+
What will she say to the police? The police are also bound to tell her parents if anything serious ever did happen
Should she tell her parents about the online thing that will bring up loads of arguments and stuff or should she just keep quiet about it and hope they will go away? They already made a fake myspace about her and some blogs and said some mean stuff because she tried to ignore them but they don't stop until she complained to them and that's when they made more threats so it goes around in circles and theres nothing she can do
OK so should I tell her to bring any messenger conversations and emails that she has against them? Will this be necessary and what will the police do after that? Also if her parents ask the police for information about if she made a complaint or not will the police tell her or do they have to keep it confidential?
Thanks for your advice
Thanks for your advice
Sorry to sound ignorant but what/who are CAB?
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according to this website though that I found they say you don't need a solicitor at all and you can do it online, even pay by pay pal http://www.ukdps.co.uk/
It also says you can do it at 16+
What will she say to the police? The police are also bound to tell her parents if anything serious ever did happen
It also says you can do it at 16+
What will she say to the police? The police are also bound to tell her parents if anything serious ever did happen
You know, it's actually FREE to change your name
"Because it is my name! Because I cannot have another in my life! Because I lie and sign myself to lies! Because I am not worth the dust on the feet of them that hang! How may I live without my name? I have given you my soul; leave me my name!"
^^ Go to the Police, don't bother faffing around with name changes. She should show this 'stalker' she means business.
^^ Go to the Police, don't bother faffing around with name changes. She should show this 'stalker' she means business.
thanks, its just that I think shes paranoid about it and the fact that someone could have so much information about them. Is what the other girls doing illegal? If they were somehow proved to have sent those messages and traced, could they be fined or something? Whats the law against those sorts of things?
Thanks
Thanks
kizer
That website does at least include suggestions:
We have issued Deed Polls for fun names such as Jellyfish McSaveloy, Toasted T Cake, Nineteen Sixty-Eight, Hong Kong Phooey, Father Christmas, Ed Kase, Ting A Ling, Huggy Bear, Donald Duck, Save Barnsley FC and James Bond.
We have issued Deed Polls for fun names such as Jellyfish McSaveloy, Toasted T Cake, Nineteen Sixty-Eight, Hong Kong Phooey, Father Christmas, Ed Kase, Ting A Ling, Huggy Bear, Donald Duck, Save Barnsley FC and James Bond.
umm yeah does look a bit dodgy
I'd take the conversations as proof, and if worried parents will find out make that the first question. "Will my parents find out?" If the Police say yes, then don't make the complaint. OR alternatively, make the complaint then deal with the consequences. If the person is threatening her, her parents might be the lesser of 2 evils.
Nobody should have to change their name, or themselves due to stalking.
But surely if she did it online, such as over that website, the 'stalker' would be able to trace her new name anyway?
I think, if it's bothering your friend that much, she should go to the police. She's done nothing wrong, and if she's 16 then they may not have to tell her parents. It'll be worth seeing the police than going on suffering like she is doing.
But surely if she did it online, such as over that website, the 'stalker' would be able to trace her new name anyway?
I think, if it's bothering your friend that much, she should go to the police. She's done nothing wrong, and if she's 16 then they may not have to tell her parents. It'll be worth seeing the police than going on suffering like she is doing.
OK thanks I'll tell her 
I didnt know you could complain to the police for something like that .. I dunno whether or not theyll take online stuff seriouslyor not though, I hope they can do something about it.
Thanks everyone again Ill make sure she does go tomorrow
I didnt know you could complain to the police for something like that .. I dunno whether or not theyll take online stuff seriouslyor not though, I hope they can do something about it.Thanks everyone again
Ill make sure she does go tomorrow
I don't mean to burst anyone's bubble or anything, but with a 'low level' offence like this - when compared to stalking in real life and threats of death as opposed to threats of giving their number to some guys who will "call her up and harrass her" - it is unlikely the police are going to put too many man hours into it. With that in mind, any authentication of an online suspect is tremendously hard to do. Because even if they do get down to the IP adress of the sender or even the phoneline that is being used, they can not irrefutably prove it is one person or not.
That said, reporting the offence should still be done because if this does go any further, they will already have a history of your case on file thus making it stronger in your favour.
Does your friend know the stalker? Because this all sounds a little bit childish to me what with making a website about them and everything. These things usually die out over time.
That said, reporting the offence should still be done because if this does go any further, they will already have a history of your case on file thus making it stronger in your favour.
Does your friend know the stalker? Because this all sounds a little bit childish to me what with making a website about them and everything. These things usually die out over time.
You need to tell your friend to find a Cyber Angel
http://www.cyberangels.org/cybercrime.html
They will help her get back control of her life! This will help her protect herself and possibly get this stalker put in jail. Good luck!
http://www.cyberangels.org/cybercrime.html
They will help her get back control of her life! This will help her protect herself and possibly get this stalker put in jail. Good luck!
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