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It would be good to see the Lib Dems replace the Tories as the second party. It's nice to observe at the moment the growing disillusionment with Labour
You might not have to wait too long for that to happen. The tories really are a shower these days.
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You might not have to wait too long for that to happen. The tories really are a shower these days.
I don't think it's going to be possible actually this is despite the fact they have such an ineffective leader. After all they still hold many supporters (2001 general election - didn't they they poll over eight million votes - that being double what the Liberal Democrats achieved?). Also with the current uneasy events i think it's possible we might witness a tory revival - :mad: they'll probabaly have racist anti-asylum policies ( :mad: ) and nationalistic anti-euro policies (which i wouldn't mind i suppose)... :confused:
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I don't think it's going to be possible actually this is despite the fact they have such an ineffective leader. After all they still hold many supporters (2001 general election - didn't they they poll over eight million votes - that being double what the Liberal Democrats achieved?). Also with the current uneasy events i think it's possible we might witness a tory revival - :mad: they'll probabaly have racist anti-asylum policies ( :mad: ) and nationalistic anti-euro policies (which i wouldn't mind i suppose)... :confused:
Hmmm......"anti-Europe, anti-asylum policies"......got my vote! (well, they would have if I lived in the UK and voted)
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Hmmm......"anti-Europe, anti-asylum policies"......got my vote! (well, they would have if I lived in the UK and voted)
How right wing are you Howard?
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He speaks like a drunk.
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He speaks like a drunk.
Well of course like his favourite political leader (Kennedy) he loves the ocassional drink
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How right wing are you Howard?
Economically, very.

Socially?..........remarkably liberal in some respects, and a complete ******* in others!
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Economically, very.

Socially?..........remarkably liberal in some respects, and a complete ******* in others!
That sounds fine - apart from the latter For some reason i assumed you were extreme right.
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That sounds fine - apart from the latter For some reason i assumed you were extreme right.
Oh no. I wouldn't say extreme right. It's true, I really don't think the country needs more asylum seekers and I think immigration has gotten out of hand and needs tackling. But, that doesn't mean to say I'm a BNP supporter in favor of forced or "otherwize encouraged" repatriation.

Socially, I'm really a libertarian through and through. As far as reasonably possible I don't believe it's any of government's business what folks get up to so long as nobody is killing anybody else (against their will that is!)

Economically, I believe in low taxes, small government, and minimal state interference.
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Oh no. I wouldn't say extreme right. It's true, I really don't think the country needs more asylum seekers and I think immigration has gotten out of hand and needs tackling. But, that doesn't mean to say I'm a BNP supporter in favor of forced or "otherwize encouraged" repatriation.

Socially, I'm really a libertarian through and through. As far as reasonably possible I don't believe it's any of government's business what folks get up to so long as nobody is killing anybody else (against their will that is!)

Economically, I believe in low taxes, small government, and minimal state interference.
But Howard i remember you once agreeing to the BNP manifesto :confused:
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But Howard i remember you once agreeing to the BNP manifesto :confused:
Erm.......run that thread by me again would you? I don't think I ever said "I agree with the BNP manifesto"

I might have said "hmmmm.....their education policy doesn't seem that bad" but that's about all.

Actually, my recollection differs from yours. I think I only ever addressed the their economic policies didn't I? I also thought I condemned them as socialist clap-trap.

Maybe not!

If you'd like to put your money where your mouth is and bring to my attention the post in which I heaped praise on the BNP and said I agreed with their manifesto I'd be very grateful. :rolleyes:
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Erm.......run that thread by me again would you? I don't think I ever said "I agree with the BNP manifesto"

I might have said "hmmmm.....their education policy doesn't seem that bad" but that's about all.

Actually, my recollection differs from yours. I think I only ever addressed the their economic policies didn't I? I also thought I condemned them as socialist clap-trap.

Maybe not!

If you'd like to put your money where your mouth is and bring to my attention the post in which I heaped praise on the BNP and said I agreed with their manifesto I'd be very grateful. :rolleyes:
It might have been along those lines - however i'm quite sure you agreed with a lot of their polcies - certainly you were very defensive about them. I have often been convinced by other i have a poor memory...As for finding the thread i have better things to do such as completing this psychology essay in the next two study periods i have.
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It might have been along those lines - however i'm quite sure you agreed with a lot of their polcies - certainly you were very defensive about them. I have often been convinced by other i have a poor memory...As for finding the thread i have better things to do such as completing this psychology essay in the next two study periods i have.
I think I left my remarks to the economic side of their manifesto which, as a conservative, I thought were **** and said as much.

It's very unlikely that I'd have agreed with many of their social policies either because, as you know, libertarian people like myself dislike government as a whole and believe people should be permitted to tread their own paths. The BNP in this regard wouldn't be very attractive to me....far too authoritarian.

Certainly not a party that would ever attract my vote but I do defend their right to exist as a political party because I believe in annoying things like democracy.

There, does that make you happy?

Probably not. Becuase you want me to air my dirty laundry in public don't you? You want me to do the "asylum thing" :rolleyes: Well, I've just done that to death under some of the debate and discussion threads, so I'm not jumping through the same hoops here!
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I think I left my remarks to the economic side of their manifesto which, as a conservative, I thought were **** and said as much.

It's very unlikely that I'd have agreed with many of their social policies either because, as you know, libertarian people like myself dislike government as a whole and believe people should be permitted to tread their own paths. The BNP in this regard wouldn't be very attractive to me....far too authoritarian.

Certainly not a party that would ever attract my vote but I do defend their right to exist as a political party because I believe in annoying things like democracy.

There, does that make you happy?

Probably not. Becuase you want me to air my dirty laundry in public don't you? You want me to do the "asylum thing" :rolleyes: Well, I've just done that to death under some of the debate and discussion threads, so I'm not jumping through the same hoops here!
Dear me i don't agree with half the things you say yet i find you highly amusing
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Dear me i don't agree with half the things you say yet i find you highly amusing
What don't you agree with? (Glad to amuse by the way!)
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What don't you agree with? (Glad to amuse by the way!)
i think the main problem is that we all have a political bias in such a debate - strip it all down to its bare essentials and then you can have a proper debate i reckon
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i think the main problem is that we all have a political bias in such a debate - strip it all down to its bare essentials and then you can have a proper debate i reckon
Absolutely. Politics is a subjective pursuit really.
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