Women who disagree with feminism - why?

The point is that all feminists have been generalised to this viewpoint. That is the problem.

The thing is, there's seeing rape as horrendous, and as, therefore, a problem; and there's believing the sensationalistic "1-in-4" claims that feminists make. There's seeing rape as a crime which should be punished very harshly, and there's assuming that 99% of rape accusations are true. Feminists seem to USE rape as a tool to further their agenda, because of the emotive nature of the subject, and it really annoys me.



The thing is, the 'slut marches' are another example of feminism's illogical. Some policeman basically said that women should avoid dressing like sluts, to reduce the chances of rape. That's not saying that it's okay to be raped, if you're wearing revealing clothing; that's merely suggesting that the chances of rape will be lower, if not dressed in such a way. Whether he's right or wrong, it's no different logic to saying "don't leave your car door unlocked, or valuables on display, if you don't want to be a victim of vehicle theft/theft from a vehicle".

Yeah, it was worded VERY clumsily; yes, he used an offensive term, so I'm not condoning the statement 100%, far from it; but it still doesn't mean that he's excusing rape. There's a difference between an explanation, and a justification, after all.

It's the near-100% feministic support for such causes as the 'slut marches', which show just how irrational they are.

For such a movement to be justified, it must firstly make an attempt to show evidence for its claims. This 'evidence' must then bear scrutiny, and so feminists must be able to DEFEND the evidence against such scrutiny. They fail to do so. They must then answer claims against discrimination against men; largely, they fail to do so. The logical mind requires solid evidence to be swayed; rather than sensationalistic propaganda.

So, firstly, the illogical.

Secondly, effectively, this then makes them discriminatory against men.

Thirdly, how much does MODERN feminism help women, anyway? Trying to push more women into top jobs/unbroken career spans, when there's no evidence that they want them? Saying that the colour pink is discriminatory, when most women like it?

Decrying all that is feminine, seems rather a dubious form of helping women, to me.

You KNOW this, do you? You're inside everyone's head?

I feel like the modern perception of feminism is so low because it's the extremists and the "man-haters" that get the most press. I wouldn't call such people feminists.

Male view: I am SO agreeable to female equality, and equality in all forms. Sex/Race/Sexual Orientation... but I hate 'feminism'

I genuinely don't think that it stands for equality at all. It stands for women wanting to belittle men and be better than them.

Equal Rights: Sure.
Feminism: Not a chance.

Most girls I know could care less about it.

It's campaigning to give women the option of those jobs, where they may not have had them before.

I don't see any evidence of them forcing women into employment, or even looking down on women who wish to have children and not have high-flying careers.

And there's no evidence that women don't want top jobs? Really? Maybe there haven't been any studies or surveys done to give concrete evidence, but I know lots of women who are working towards or would like successful careers and "top jobs".

And where is the evidence that feminists say that pink is discriminatory? The only recent articles I've seen even remotely related to your point are complaining about certain situations where pink is the only colour available for things like sports equipment, which is annoying if you dislike pink. What exactly are you referring to here?

I'm a girl, and I think women should be treated equally with regards to men. Equal pay, equal access to jobs, equal treatment etc. But, women are not better than men. Some women need to accept that men are going to be better at some things,and women better at others. Each gender has it's own strengths and weaknesses, mostly physically but also mentally. SOME feminists really don't get that. (not all, i'm sure...but some).

be it this post of your posts to me in the 'last of us' thread, your reasoning is very flawed and what is worse is that you dont seem to notice it... do not let bias impact your rational thinking.. evidence that goes against your views=/= worthless/insignificant evidence... im still waiting for all the evidence you claim to have... when posting this evidence of yours, please remember what i said before... simply giving examples of idiot feminists does not prove that feminism itself is the same... having a lot of sources of these idiots also does not prove anything about feminism being bad

I guess not. But don't women enjoy sex as much as men? And what does more sexually valuable even mean?

I agree with equal rights, opportunities and the ability to do as you please, providing it doesn't happen anyone, irrespective of gender or any other characteristic/demographic.

However, I dislike the feminists with the holier than thou attitudes who want to ban Page 3 or 'lad magazines'. They're clearly not in favour of letting women choose their own professions.

Equal choices/opportunities? Yeah... As long as you match my ideals.

Thanks for sharing! I welcome opposing view points.

Most of those issues surely result from the fact that young women are far more sexually valuable than men? So - feminists want to fight biology and nature? I agree that rape is terrible but the other problems aren't the end of the world, and ironically feminists are against things which would actually reduce the incidence of rape. (e.g lowering male sex drive through porn and prostitutes)

That is bull****. If feminism was just about equality then there would be no need for the term, because equality for all comes under the term of liberalism.

I can't believe some people are actually serious in this thread.

It's fighting for women's rights so there WILL be equality. Men have already had all the rights, all the dominance, all the say in what goes on and what happens to women for hundreds of years. Women have been viewed as commodities and not even their own person up until about less than a hundred years ago, feminism is about fighting for their rights to be equal to those of men. Why on earth would the focus be on equality for men when they've already had the say in everything?

It's fighting for women's rights so there WILL be equality. Men have already had all the rights, all the dominance, all the say in what goes on and what happens to women for hundreds of years. Women have been viewed as commodities and not even their own person up until about less than a hundred years ago, feminism is about fighting for their rights to be equal to those of men. Why on earth would the focus be on equality for men when they've already had the say in everything?