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Cambridge Maths Part 3 (MAST) Tripos

Hi,

quick question really to anyone in the know out there.

I am currently a second year student at Loughborough, studying mathematics and economics. I am on a mid 2:1 after my second year, which is worth 25% of my overall degree.

I am coming to the end of a 15 month industrial in Front Office FX Sales and TRading, , and i am thinking about masters after i finsih university.

Is there a point of me applyng for this course, and is it beneficial to wait till after my january exams (when i have pulled my average up to a first) I want to ensure my application looks as good as it can, and i am worried that my average second year grades would have a negative affect. Would waiting to oull up my overall score to a first, plus the placement, be advantageous?

Any adivce would be greatly appreciated.
Reply 1
Original post by alexwalton2003
Hi,

quick question really to anyone in the know out there.

I am currently a second year student at Loughborough, studying mathematics and economics. I am on a mid 2:1 after my second year, which is worth 25% of my overall degree.

I am coming to the end of a 15 month industrial in Front Office FX Sales and TRading, , and i am thinking about masters after i finsih university.

Is there a point of me applyng for this course, and is it beneficial to wait till after my january exams (when i have pulled my average up to a first) I want to ensure my application looks as good as it can, and i am worried that my average second year grades would have a negative affect. Would waiting to oull up my overall score to a first, plus the placement, be advantageous?

Any adivce would be greatly appreciated.


Definitely wait until your January exams. You won’t get much of a look in with a 2:1. Is your course a BSc or an MSci? Because most external students apply to part III maths already with a masters. If you’re applying and only planning on obtaining a BSc your chances won’t be very high. They won’t care about your placement, in fact if anything it will be seen as a disadvantage. Also part III is very pure and theoretical physics based, with relatively few quantitative finance options are you sure it’s really for you?
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Reply 2
The entrance requirement for Part III is a first from another university studying maths or something related to maths. I have heard of people receiving offers of an even higher average but I'm not sure how truthful those accounts are. They are very unlikely, however, to admit someone with a 2.1.

If I w
ere you, I would definitely wait until January to apply to pull up your marks. Applying that late will probably not affect your chances - plenty of people on here were applying much later and still received offers.

Reply 3
From my experience you will need to be predicted and obtain a first to be able to get onto part iii. As far as timing goes, the deadline isn't until relatively late (compared to PhD applications anyway), I think it might be in March, though I could be wrong, so you don't need to worry about waiting until after your January exams. Though obviously, earlier is better.

I'd usually offer a more expansive explanation, but I'm writing this on an iPad which is an absolute pain the ****. So I'm just going to add not to worry too much about it, moving on to a masters isn't nearly as difficult as getting onto a PhD and that there are plenty other masters programs worth applying to. Good luck :smile:
Reply 4
Thanks for all the replies.

I shall definitely wait till after my exams, bump up my mark to overall first, then send my application off, which would probably early feb, after my results are released.

I didnt realise that most people applying already had a Masters, i assumed it was a course aimed at graduates.

I appreciated that it is very theoretical, however after my year out i wish to try and understand and go into greater depth on my mathematical studies, possibly into PHd, but not 100% sure as of yet.

Would my year out really be a hinderance, i thought it would at least have some positive impact.

If not for the cambridghe MASt, what other programmes in the UK have similar content / prestige that i could look into?

Thanks again guys
Reply 5
Original post by alexwalton2003
Thanks for all the replies.

I shall definitely wait till after my exams, bump up my mark to overall first, then send my application off, which would probably early feb, after my results are released.

I didnt realise that most people applying already had a Masters, i assumed it was a course aimed at graduates.

I appreciated that it is very theoretical, however after my year out i wish to try and understand and go into greater depth on my mathematical studies, possibly into PHd, but not 100% sure as of yet.

Would my year out really be a hinderance, i thought it would at least have some positive impact.

If not for the cambridghe MASt, what other programmes in the UK have similar content / prestige that i could look into?

Thanks again guys


I think most of the students who do the MASt coming from another British university have a 4 year degree (so like an "undergrad" Master's, MSci, MMath, MPhys etc...). Part III is definitely not for students who are not wanting to move on to further academic study (like a PhD) and they would advise against someone doing it without any further plans in mind since it is very difficult.

I'm not sure exactly what your focus is, you mentioned you do Finance sort of things, so you could possibly look into Finance MSc's? I am a theoretical physicist myself and two comparable courses (though Cambridge would still be considered much more prestigious) would be the QFFF MSc at Imperial and (to a lesser extent) the MSc at Durham. Oxford is also apparently starting their own course similar to Cambridge's (might just be for theoretical physics though) that is supposed to start soon.
Reply 6
Original post by cjsfish
I think most of the students who do the MASt coming from another British university have a 4 year degree (so like an "undergrad" Master's, MSci, MMath, MPhys etc...). Part III is definitely not for students who are not wanting to move on to further academic study (like a PhD) and they would advise against someone doing it without any further plans in mind since it is very difficult.

I'm not sure exactly what your focus is, you mentioned you do Finance sort of things, so you could possibly look into Finance MSc's? I am a theoretical physicist myself and two comparable courses (though Cambridge would still be considered much more prestigious) would be the QFFF MSc at Imperial and (to a lesser extent) the MSc at Durham. Oxford is also apparently starting their own course similar to Cambridge's (might just be for theoretical physics though) that is supposed to start soon.


Do you mean, 'definitely FOR students'? :smile:
Reply 7
Original post by noobslayer
Do you mean, 'definitely FOR students'? :smile:


I wondered this too. It seems like the perfect preparation for a maths/physics PhD. It doesn't look like a terminal degree at all!
Reply 8
Original post by Occams Chainsaw
I wondered this too. It seems like the perfect preparation for a maths/physics PhD. It doesn't look like a terminal degree at all!


Yeah was probably just a typo
Reply 9
Original post by noobslayer
Do you mean, 'definitely FOR students'? :smile:



Original post by Occams Chainsaw
I wondered this too. It seems like the perfect preparation for a maths/physics PhD. It doesn't look like a terminal degree at all!


He said definitely not for students who are NOT wanting to go on to a PhD. Double negative!
Reply 10
Original post by Nichrome
He said definitely not for students who are NOT wanting to go on to a PhD. Double negative!


Thanks. Maybe I shouldn't post on here at 4 in the morning so I don't look like an idiot! :redface:
Reply 11
Original post by Occams Chainsaw
Thanks. Maybe I shouldn't post on here at 4 in the morning so I don't look like an idiot! :redface:


I concurr.
To be honest, I'm not sure if finance is where i want to end up.

The purpose of doing the MAST was to be able to develop a much greater understanding of the subject, without having to dedicate myself to a PHD as of yet.

In regards to having a Msc. already, my course is currently 3 years ( 4 years with an industrial placement included) so would only graduate with an Bsc. Part of the reason I would like to transfer to cambridge is of course the prestige that comes along with obtaining a degree / Postgraduate qualification from there. I would then be better informed if I would actually like to continue on with my education, or if in fact i would like to follow a different route.

Are there any other Masters courses in the Uk, Ie Applied mathematics from LSE, or Imperial, that are up there with the course from cambridge, that maybe don't require the applicant to already have an Msc. in a chosen field?

Alex
Reply 13
Original post by alexwalton2003
To be honest, I'm not sure if finance is where i want to end up.

The purpose of doing the MAST was to be able to develop a much greater understanding of the subject, without having to dedicate myself to a PHD as of yet.

In regards to having a Msc. already, my course is currently 3 years ( 4 years with an industrial placement included) so would only graduate with an Bsc. Part of the reason I would like to transfer to cambridge is of course the prestige that comes along with obtaining a degree / Postgraduate qualification from there. I would then be better informed if I would actually like to continue on with my education, or if in fact i would like to follow a different route.

Are there any other Masters courses in the Uk, Ie Applied mathematics from LSE, or Imperial, that are up there with the course from cambridge, that maybe don't require the applicant to already have an Msc. in a chosen field?

Alex


Part III is the most demanding of taught postgraduate courses in the UK.

Excuse my directness but as you've mentioned master courses in applied maths at LSE, I suggest you do a a lot more research!

LSE does not even do applied maths at the undergrad level and I definately would not advise anyone to apply there for undergrad maths.

The reason is you should be exposed to as many areas of maths as possible in order to gain a thorough understanding before specialising. LSE unfortunately does not offer much in maths apart from stats and business related maths and discrete / decision modules.

For a good uni, try COWI.

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