** Official Investment Banking Spring Week 2014 Thread **

http://graduate.barclayscapital.com/emea/application-process

Second line- 'we recruit on a rolling basis'

Either way maybe that's just for the summer internships and grad roles. I won't submit mine till after results day and even then I'll probably wait to build up my CV a bit through ECs.

Did I miss the memo going around saying that it was first come first served?

I don't see the hurry, I'm sure applying by Sept/late October, you're still in good stead and in that way can also attempt to build on your CV in some ways, rather than applying hastily.

I say it's not on a rolling basis, simply because they are not going to decide to interview the first batch of people in October or anything like that.

Most people won't hear anything, aside from tests until Dec time, (spoke to friends/sibling in industry) Feedback will mainly be rejections after tests up till that point.

I don't know. I've heard the opposite. I've also heard that some banks say they do that but actually recruit on a rolling basis. It's like when they say they recruit from a diverse range of universities and you look around the room and see 70% have offers from LSE.
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Anyone have any idea what is the best strategy to follow when applying for SWs? Perhaps someone who has already done it and was successful rather than us guessing or saying what we've heard?

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Yeah I suppose it would make little difference. I was under the impression anyway that the career fairs were mainly just to get more applicants to the programmes.

What courses has everyone applying got offers from?

Its insane how early they are opening this year!!! I always thought they opened later in the year, most the sites that list deadlines haven't started listing the 2014 ones yet Grad Diary have a few up so far, also on the numerical testing does anyone know where I can practice?

Thanks!

Just to point out, it does explicitly state on the website that you should apply as soon as possible since interviews will commence before the deadline.

http://graduate.barclayscapital.com/emea/internships

Then scroll down to 'Spring Programme FAQs' and click on 'How do I Apply', it couldn't be clearer.

Even if it's not first come first served, I've heard banks say that sending off an application early is seen as a positive factor so the time of the application does make a difference. Of course, you should still take the time to ensure your application is as good as possible.

Them saying apply by the deadline as they will interview before that the date, , doesn't mean it's first come first served at all. They will probably give each batch an initial screening to see if they passed the numerical and place them for further consideration.

Applying in Sept/Oct is what most people would call early. Applying in August is what people would call keen. Don't you think they will be busy with the summer interns and graduate recruitment.

Obviously noone needs to listens to this but two friends are currently doing IBD at Barcap and assessments for SW last year did not start until late Dec/early Jan.

Just not wise for some people to apply this early and get dinged because all they can say is I went to X insight day and now want to be a banker. Obviously if your CV is exceptional already, and you don't think getting advice/CV tips from those at your university finance societies or bank fairs, then go ahead.

I think people should realise that these are a LOT more competitive than those pre-uni insight days which are for one only restricted to UK students in upper sixth.

how do you know so much?

what do you think one could gain from university in one-two months that will give be as "exceptional" as jpmorgan, morgan stanley and rbs insight events? how does one make a CV "exceptional"? by going to university networking events to which anyone in the university can pop in, do not require applications or cover letters? do you think that university careers officers will know more about what a bank wants to see on a CV or would the advice of the HR teams at these banks be more reliable?

not trying to be confrontational, just wanted to know what you think.

As a first year, HR will skim through your application/CV/Whatever and know that they're not going to see much. They'll see perhaps a job as a cashier in Waitrose or a small insight day on there, but ultimately they don't expect to see an internship at a top asset manager or capital management company.

However, OP is right - that first month at university is pretty crucial. There are events open to everyone at the university, but not other universities.

To say that you spoke with the representatives at a Goldman Sachs event while at uni shows initiative, and also shows you mean business at a G5 university. It doesn't count for much when you're in your second/third year, but it makes a huge difference in the first.

There's also a lot of people who are too busy out drinking to care about these early career events. It gives you the upper boost.

By no means will your CV be 'exceptional', but it's better to have a page with insights and a few small jobs than a blank page with a bio on it.

I'm sure the OP will be able to reply to this, but I'd like to give some means of a response.

As a first year, HR will skim through your application/CV/Whatever and know that they're not going to see much. They'll see perhaps a job as a cashier in Waitrose or a small insight day on there, but ultimately they don't expect to see an internship at a top asset manager or capital management company.

However, OP is right - that first month at university is pretty crucial. There are events open to everyone at the university, but not other universities.

To say that you spoke with the representatives at a Goldman Sachs event while at uni shows initiative, and also shows you mean business at a G5 university. It doesn't count for much when you're in your second/third year, but it makes a huge difference in the first.

There's also a lot of people who are too busy out drinking to care about these early career events. It gives you the upper boost.

By no means will your CV be 'exceptional', but it's better to have a page with insights and a few small jobs than a blank page with a bio on it.

Well sure as hell im not putting down my cashier work experience as if they’re not gunna care about that!

I’ve been to JPMorgan Morgan Stanley and RBS, I reckon that will show more initiative than just talking to a rep at Goldman Sachs cus that requires pretty much no effort at all right? Whereas they’ll know that the insight days required effort in the form of looking out for deadlines, specialising CV and writing and cover letters and answering their comp questions.

OP seems to think that networking events where you just have to rock up and chat to some guy shows more initiative than applying to insight days.

Do you think ill have enough?

Yeah man I'm sure Goldman Sachs will love to know about how you've been to their competitors but not them!

Goldman don't run an insight programme you douche.

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Goldman don't run an insight programme you douche.

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Goldman Sachs run an insight programme.

It's not for guys though.

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