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Hi guys im currently in year 12 and I am considering what degree to apply for and I am going to apply for GEM when I finish that degree

If I do a degree other than biomedical science will I be at a disadvantage when I apply? As I am stuck between choosing biomedical sciences, chemstry or phyiscs degree

Also what jobs could I go into with biomedical sciences apart from being a biomedical scientist? As even though I am going to go for GEM I understand the extremely high level of competition for a place and want to know what else I could do with the degree if I did not get a place. I would want to do a science based job

This is what is putting me off of biomedical science as even though I LOVE the topics covered at the uni's I would apply for, I do not know what prospects there are after graduating, unlike in chemistry and phyiscs I also LOVE the topics covered and know what career prospects are available to me

thanks for the help
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Firstly: are you certain you need to go down the GEM route? It's expensive and way, way more competitive than undergraduate entry. You should ensure you can't follow access courses or foundation courses before applying this way. Trust me!

Biomedical science, I'm a graduate of such a course by the way, is primarily a vocational degree in that it's designed to train laboratory biomedical scientists. Whilst many do go into research careers at universities and in private companies, most will go on to work in the NHS as biomedical scientists.

You wouldn't be disadvantaged doing another degree if it's science-orientated, especially if you have AS/A2 chemistry and biology. If you do a non-science degree, your options are more limited but there are still options. For example, Warwick -- the largest GEM programme -- accepts graduates from any discipline and regardless of GCSEs/A-levels.

Like I said, consider your options first. Why do biomed if you want to do medicine? There is no rush to go to university, you'd be better spent trying to improve grades by resitting, applying for foundation courses or access to medicine courses. With GEM we're talking about place:applicant ratios of around 1:10-65, so far higher than at undergraduate. You'll also have a minimum £70k of debt.
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Firstly: are you certain you need to go down the GEM route? It's expensive and way, way more competitive than undergraduate entry. You should ensure you can't follow access courses or foundation courses before applying this way. Trust me!

Biomedical science, I'm a graduate of such a course by the way, is primarily a vocational degree in that it's designed to train laboratory biomedical scientists. Whilst many do go into research careers at universities and in private companies, most will go on to work in the NHS as biomedical scientists.

You wouldn't be disadvantaged doing another degree if it's science-orientated, especially if you have AS/A2 chemistry and biology. If you do a non-science degree, your options are more limited but there are still options. For example, Warwick -- the largest GEM programme -- accepts graduates from any discipline and regardless of GCSEs/A-levels.

Like I said, consider your options first. Why do biomed if you want to do medicine? There is no rush to go to university, you'd be better spent trying to improve grades by resitting, applying for foundation courses or access to medicine courses. With GEM we're talking about place:applicant ratios of around 1:10-65, so far higher than at undergraduate. You'll also have a minimum £70k of debt.
thanks for the reply

It's not really a choice of going for GEM as even though im confident I'll get AAA (biology, chemistry, physics) I have resat year 12 due to failing (through me being lazy) and also my GCSE's are mainly C's and I have no A's so that puts me out of every medicine course I think? I mean I'd LOVE to go for undergraduate medicine, even if I had to take a gap year or 2, but Im just not eligible for any undergraduate course

are you a biomedical scientist now? if so could you please tell me what work is involved as I don't have too much of an idea, only a little bit?
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thanks for the reply

It's not really a choice of going for GEM as even though im confident I'll get AAA (biology, chemistry, physics) I have resat year 12 due to failing (through me being lazy) and also my GCSE's are mainly C's and I have no A's so that puts me out of every medicine course I think? I mean I'd LOVE to go for undergraduate medicine, even if I had to take a gap year or 2, but Im just not eligible for any undergraduate course

are you a biomedical scientist now? if so could you please tell me what work is involved as I don't have too much of an idea, only a little bit?
Did you literally resit the entire year, or just several modules? Have a look here to see if you meet any of the resit requirements: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki...Resit_Policies

Either way, direct entry into A100 isn't the only way. I'd recommend doing an access course, or the clinical science course at Bradford. Assuming you do well in the first year (>70%, I think) you are eligible for an interview at Leeds. I think they interview 40 each year and accept 20.

These options are better than doing biomedical science and accruing lots of debt. I'm doing the process now, so I'm well aware of the competitiveness too!

I'm not currently employed as a biomedical scientist but I have been on placement. It's very varied work depending on the speciality you want to enter. I did microbiology, but you can do cytology, genetics, biochemistry and others. It's entirely lab based, though, but you're not bottom of the ladder doing reagent mixing and stuff -- you're generally helping doctors to diagnose illnesses based on laboratory techniques that you conduct and analyse.

If you do decide on biomedical science, try and make sure the course is accredited by the IBMS otherwise it's fairly useless for anything other than applying to medicine and research. Without accreditation it is difficult to enter the NHS without undertaking more modules.

Good luck
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Did you literally resit the entire year, or just several modules? Have a look here to see if you meet any of the resit requirements: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki...Resit_Policies

Either way, direct entry into A100 isn't the only way. I'd recommend doing an access course, or the clinical science course at Bradford. Assuming you do well in the first year (>70%, I think) you are eligible for an interview at Leeds. I think they interview 40 each year and accept 20.

These options are better than doing biomedical science and accruing lots of debt. I'm doing the process now, so I'm well aware of the competitiveness too!

I'm not currently employed as a biomedical scientist but I have been on placement. It's very varied work depending on the speciality you want to enter. I did microbiology, but you can do cytology, genetics, biochemistry and others. It's entirely lab based, though, but you're not bottom of the ladder doing reagent mixing and stuff -- you're generally helping doctors to diagnose illnesses based on laboratory techniques that you conduct and analyse.

If you do decide on biomedical science, try and make sure the course is accredited by the IBMS otherwise it's fairly useless for anything other than applying to medicine and research. Without accreditation it is difficult to enter the NHS without undertaking more modules.

Good luck
I had a look at your link and im might be able to apply to exeter (emailed them just to check) thank you!

the entire year I have looked at access courses and when looking at medical schools they say they would take into account my A-levels + resit year and I dont want to take the risk of clinical sciences due to if I dont get a transfer place I would be stuck on that course at a uni I dont want to be at (been to a open day)

The debt of GEM is not really a concern of mine as even though it is a lot I know that after that I will have achieved what I have always wanted to do and be a doctor and also I have money saved for the costs I have to pay up front for it by jobs and also saving as much of the bursarys I get at uni as possible (my family is quite poor household earns less than £14000)

yeah I have been checking to make sure the courses I would apply for have IBMS accreditation

thanks for all of the help you have given it is very appreciated good luck with GEM
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The debt of GEM is not really a concern of mine as even though it is a lot I know that after that I will have achieved what I have always wanted to do and be a doctor and also I have money saved for the costs I have to pay up front for it by jobs and also saving as much of the bursarys I get at uni as possible (my family is quite poor household earns less than £14000)
None of us can be certain about that; the funding for GEM has only been confirmed up to 2014 entry so far. There is a possibility that the government could remove tuition fee funding, or at least make the situation worse. This is why it's important to consider every shorter-term option to you like access courses, but if you can't do any other option then fair enough.
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Hi guys im currently in year 12 and I am considering what degree to apply for and I am going to apply for GEM when I finish that degree

If I do a degree other than biomedical science will I be at a disadvantage when I apply? As I am stuck between choosing biomedical sciences, chemstry or phyiscs degree

Also what jobs could I go into with biomedical sciences apart from being a biomedical scientist? As even though I am going to go for GEM I understand the extremely high level of competition for a place and want to know what else I could do with the degree if I did not get a place. I would want to do a science based job

This is what is putting me off of biomedical science as even though I LOVE the topics covered at the uni's I would apply for, I do not know what prospects there are after graduating, unlike in chemistry and phyiscs I also LOVE the topics covered and know what career prospects are available to me

thanks for the help
Career prospects include:

• Speech and language specialist. Speech therapist
• Public health
• orthopist
• Physiotherapy
• Clinical psychology
• Clinical pharmacy
• Physician Associate
• Clinical scientist: audiologist, respiratory physiologist, clinical cardiac physiologist

also check out this site: https://biosciencecareers.wordpress.com

hope this helps someone.
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